Re: DFsort error message
One of the most important things I learned 45 years ago was 37 is always a space issue. 13 was an open issue and 14 a close issue. Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:24 PM, Ron Thomas <[0600304cab5d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu](mailto:On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:24 PM, Ron Thomas < wrote: > Hi All - > > We are getting a sort error on a huge file . Below are the details from log > > Parm cards used > SORT FIELDS=COPY > > Error Log details > > ICE193I 0 ICEAM1 INVOCATION ENVIRONMENT IN EFFECT - ICEAM1 ENVIRONMENT > SELECTED > ICE252I 1 PARMLIB OPTIONS WERE MERGED WITH INSTALLATION MODULE DEFAULTS > ICE088I 0 ITGB9059.STEP02 .SORT , INPUT LRECL = 317, BLKSIZE = 27896, TYPE = > ICE093I 0 MAIN STORAGE = (MAX,33554432,33554432) > ICE156I 0 MAIN STORAGE ABOVE 16MB = (33497072,33497072) > ICE127I 0 OPTIONS: OVFLO=RC0 ,PAD=RC0 ,TRUNC=RC0 > ,SPANINC=RC16,VLSCMP=N,SZERO=Y, > ICE128I 0 OPTIONS: > SIZE=33554432,MAXLIM=1048576,MINLIM=450560,EQUALS=N,LIST=Y,ER > ICE129I 0 OPTIONS: VIO=N,RESDNT=ALL ,SMF=FULL > ,WRKSEC=Y,OUTSEC=Y,VERIFY=N,CHALT= > ICE130I 0 OPTIONS: RESALL=8192,RESINV=0,SVC=109 > ,CHECK=Y,WRKREL=Y,OUTREL=Y,CKPT= > ICE131I 0 OPTIONS: > TMAXLIM=33554432,ARESALL=0,ARESINV=0,OVERRGN=65536,CINV=Y,CFW > ICE132I 0 OPTIONS: VLSHRT=N,ZDPRINT=Y,IEXIT=N,TEXIT=N,LISTX=N,EFS=NONE ,EXITC > ICE133I 0 OPTIONS: HIPRMAX=0 ,DSPSIZE=2000,ODMAXBF=2097152,SOLRF=N,VLLONG=N > ICE235I 0 OPTIONS: NULLOUT=RC0 > ICE236I 0 OPTIONS: DYNAPCT=10 ,MOWRK=Y,TUNE=STOR,EXPMAX=2000 ,EXPOLD=MAX ,E > ICE084I 0 EXCP ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SORTIN > ICE889I 0 CT=MAX , SB=3, L=0, D=, CCW=1MAM > ICE902I 0 O I PP11 > ICE906I 1 ST=ABOVE,SR=33497072,RC=0 > ICE907I 1 ST=ABOVE,SA=33497056,NF=1,LF=33497056,SF=33497056 > ICE906I 1 ST=BELOW,SR=98320,RC=0 > ICE907I 1 ST=BELOW,SA=49152,NF=1,LF=49152,SF=49152 > ICE231I 0 STORAGE USED FOR OUTFIL : BELOW 16M = 20480, ABOVE 16M = 2119680 > ICE231I 0 STORAGE USED FOR OUTFIL : BELOW 16M = 20480, ABOVE 16M = 2119680 > ICE855I 0 SORTOUT : TX=N, R=J, L=J, B=D, BL=0, BR=0, DCT=37, VS=N, RU=X, SB=8 > ICE210I 0 SORTOUT : EXCP USED, LRECL = 317, BLKSIZE = 27896, TYPE = FB > ICE751I 2 EF-I80638 CB-NONE F0-NONE DA-I76950 > ICE185A 0 AN SE37 ABEND WAS ISSUED BY DFSORT, ANOTHER PROGRAM OR AN EXIT > (PHASE > > Job Step work file details . Allocated SORTWK50 files > > XXSORTWK09 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK10 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK11 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK12 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK13 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK14 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK15 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK16 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK17 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK18 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > XXSORTWK19 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,()) > IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200)) > > //SORTOUT DD DSN=KGN01.PS.RPCFIL.AMT.ACTV.UNLD.FINAL1.HDR, > // SPACE=(CYL,(1200,500),RLSE),VOL=(,,,99), > // RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS, > // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),LRECL=317,BLKSIZE=0 > //SYSIN DD DSN=MK.PS.PROD.PARMLIB(PSJH06P),DISP=SHR > > Could someone please let us know what needs to be done here? > > Regards > Ron T > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there
SAN is Subject Alternate Name in a digital certificate. In that case, I would try a different port such as 2443 or any other port not in use. On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:46 PM Pommier, Rex wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I'm not following you on this one. SANs? In my vocabulary SAN is storage > and we don't run a SAN for our mainframe disk. Direct attach, 2 LPARs on > the same physical CEC, 1 DS8910F storage direct attached, and shared chpids > for both the disk and OSA. > > I did find this - which I didn't see yesterday that is probably my problem > but I can't see what I need to change to fix it: > > CWWKO0221E: TCP Channel defaultHttpEndpoint-ssl initialization did not > succeed. >The socket bind did not succeed for host * and port 443. The port > might already be in use. >Exception Message: EDC5111I Permission denied. (errno2=0x744C7246) > > I do a netstat on port 443 and get this: > > D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON,PORT=443 > EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V2R4 TCPIP 496 > USER ID CONN LOCAL SOCKET FOREIGN SOCKET STATE > 0 OF 0 RECORDS DISPLAYED > END OF THE REPORT > > Over on the production LPAR I see that IZUSVR1 is bound to port 443. > > Within the z/OSMF active config file I see this on the non-working one: > IZU_APPSERVER_HOSTNAME=TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM > IZU_JWKS_HOSTNAME=TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM > IZU_HTTP_SSL_PORT=443 > IZU_HTTP_PORT=-1 > > TCPIP.DATA has my HOSTNAME TSTJES2 and both TSTJES2 and TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM > both correctly resolve to the test LPAR IP address. > > Over on the working one I do the same netstat and see the bind: > > D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON,PORT=443 > EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V2R4 TCPIP 600 > USER ID CONN LOCAL SOCKET FOREIGN SOCKET STATE > IZUSVR1 0004A344 172.16.128.14..443 10.53.240.151..34554 ESTBLSH > IZUSVR1 000492CB 0.0.0.0..443 0.0.0.0..0 LISTEN > 2 OF 2 RECORDS DISPLAYED > END OF THE REPORT > > In active config: > IZU_APPSERVER_HOSTNAME=MVSJES2.MNLIFE.COM > IZU_JWKS_HOSTNAME=MVSJES2.MNLIFE.COM > IZU_HTTP_SSL_PORT=443 > IZU_HTTP_PORT=-1 > > TCPIP.DATA on working one has HOSTNAME MVSJES2 and everything resolves > correctly. > > Thoughts/ideas? > > I'm chasing a couple other links people sent me. > > Rex > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Michael Babcock > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:23 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there > > Also, if you cloned prod and changed the IP added and/or domain name, I > would check the certs. Do the certs match the SANs? > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:16 PM Michael Babcock > wrote: > > > Does this help? > > > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://kinsta.com/knowledgebase/pr-end-of > > -file-error/*what-causes-the-pr_end_of_file_error__;Iw!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0 > > Fj!oaOvtuzKsu_CrFeLcgyUKF_gNSfdjsYOIW2qhL0UuZh7RZ70fpwMbhZmzveK6QkZRvM > > nI2nXVMundFuGm1tmuiOd81fQsKoWqjD1$ > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:28 PM Pommier, Rex > > wrote: > > > >> Hi List, > >> > >> We are attempting our first foray into getting z/OSMF up and running. > >> Scenario is we're backleveled maintenance-wise on our 2.4 system. We > >> ran the security configuration setup etc and got z/OSMF up and > >> running on the production LPAR we are planning on running it from. > >> However when we started to load z/OS 3.1 we ran into a problem with > >> missing PTFs. Got one set of PTFs installed and after adding a > >> local_override.cfg file into the configuration directory we got > >> z/OSMF up and running again and past that hurdle. We hit the next > >> one requiring a dozen more PTFs to bypass it. We decided to move the > >> install to our sandbox just to get z/OSMF working to the point we can > >> use it to get our 3.1 software install back on track. I ran > >> disk-level flashcopy copies of my entire production LPAR to the > >> sandbox, made the required changes (IP addresses etc) to get the > >> sandbox up and running. Started z/OSMF and it comes up with no > >> errors or warnings (except the one telling me I'm using the local > override file). However, when I try to get to the web server I get a > "secure connection failure" > >> with " PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR" trying to connect with Firefox and " > >> 172.16.128.108 unexpectedly closed the connection" using Chrome. > >> Security > >> (RACF) is identical to what it is on the production LPAR. z/OSMF > >> config is identical as well. Does anybody have any idea what I'm > missing? > >> > >> TIA, > >> > >> Rex > >> > >> - > >> - The information contained in this message is confidential, > >> protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the > >> reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee > >> or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended > >> recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there
Follow-up and resolution. We found it. “stupid sysprog trick”. I was missing a line in my TCPIP PROFILE member telling it to reserve port 443 for z/OSMF on our test LPAR. I looked at that member in production, even running compares against the one being used for test, about a half dozen times and missed it every time. One of my colleagues finally spotted the missing line. Thanks, Rex -Original Message- From: Pommier, Rex Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 10:02 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there Hi Michael, I'm not following you on this one. SANs? In my vocabulary SAN is storage and we don't run a SAN for our mainframe disk. Direct attach, 2 LPARs on the same physical CEC, 1 DS8910F storage direct attached, and shared chpids for both the disk and OSA. I did find this - which I didn't see yesterday that is probably my problem but I can't see what I need to change to fix it: CWWKO0221E: TCP Channel defaultHttpEndpoint-ssl initialization did not succeed. The socket bind did not succeed for host * and port 443. The port might already be in use. Exception Message: EDC5111I Permission denied. (errno2=0x744C7246) I do a netstat on port 443 and get this: D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON,PORT=443 EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V2R4 TCPIP 496 USER ID CONN LOCAL SOCKET FOREIGN SOCKET STATE 0 OF 0 RECORDS DISPLAYED END OF THE REPORT Over on the production LPAR I see that IZUSVR1 is bound to port 443. Within the z/OSMF active config file I see this on the non-working one: IZU_APPSERVER_HOSTNAME=TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM IZU_JWKS_HOSTNAME=TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM IZU_HTTP_SSL_PORT=443 IZU_HTTP_PORT=-1 TCPIP.DATA has my HOSTNAME TSTJES2 and both TSTJES2 and TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM both correctly resolve to the test LPAR IP address. Over on the working one I do the same netstat and see the bind: D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON,PORT=443 EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V2R4 TCPIP 600 USER ID CONN LOCAL SOCKET FOREIGN SOCKET STATE IZUSVR1 0004A344 172.16.128.14..443 10.53.240.151..34554 ESTBLSH IZUSVR1 000492CB 0.0.0.0..443 0.0.0.0..0 LISTEN 2 OF 2 RECORDS DISPLAYED END OF THE REPORT In active config: IZU_APPSERVER_HOSTNAME=MVSJES2.MNLIFE.COM IZU_JWKS_HOSTNAME=MVSJES2.MNLIFE.COM IZU_HTTP_SSL_PORT=443 IZU_HTTP_PORT=-1 TCPIP.DATA on working one has HOSTNAME MVSJES2 and everything resolves correctly. Thoughts/ideas? I'm chasing a couple other links people sent me. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there Also, if you cloned prod and changed the IP added and/or domain name, I would check the certs. Do the certs match the SANs? On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:16 PM Michael Babcock wrote: > Does this help? > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://kinsta.com/knowledgebase/pr-end-of > -file-error/*what-causes-the-pr_end_of_file_error__;Iw!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0 > Fj!oaOvtuzKsu_CrFeLcgyUKF_gNSfdjsYOIW2qhL0UuZh7RZ70fpwMbhZmzveK6QkZRvM > nI2nXVMundFuGm1tmuiOd81fQsKoWqjD1$ > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:28 PM Pommier, Rex > wrote: > >> Hi List, >> >> We are attempting our first foray into getting z/OSMF up and running. >> Scenario is we're backleveled maintenance-wise on our 2.4 system. We >> ran the security configuration setup etc and got z/OSMF up and >> running on the production LPAR we are planning on running it from. >> However when we started to load z/OS 3.1 we ran into a problem with >> missing PTFs. Got one set of PTFs installed and after adding a >> local_override.cfg file into the configuration directory we got >> z/OSMF up and running again and past that hurdle. We hit the next >> one requiring a dozen more PTFs to bypass it. We decided to move the >> install to our sandbox just to get z/OSMF working to the point we can >> use it to get our 3.1 software install back on track. I ran >> disk-level flashcopy copies of my entire production LPAR to the >> sandbox, made the required changes (IP addresses etc) to get the >> sandbox up and running. Started z/OSMF and it comes up with no >> errors or warnings (except the one telling me I'm using the local override >> file). However, when I try to get to the web server I get a "secure
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there
Hi Michael, I'm not following you on this one. SANs? In my vocabulary SAN is storage and we don't run a SAN for our mainframe disk. Direct attach, 2 LPARs on the same physical CEC, 1 DS8910F storage direct attached, and shared chpids for both the disk and OSA. I did find this - which I didn't see yesterday that is probably my problem but I can't see what I need to change to fix it: CWWKO0221E: TCP Channel defaultHttpEndpoint-ssl initialization did not succeed. The socket bind did not succeed for host * and port 443. The port might already be in use. Exception Message: EDC5111I Permission denied. (errno2=0x744C7246) I do a netstat on port 443 and get this: D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON,PORT=443 EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V2R4 TCPIP 496 USER ID CONN LOCAL SOCKET FOREIGN SOCKET STATE 0 OF 0 RECORDS DISPLAYED END OF THE REPORT Over on the production LPAR I see that IZUSVR1 is bound to port 443. Within the z/OSMF active config file I see this on the non-working one: IZU_APPSERVER_HOSTNAME=TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM IZU_JWKS_HOSTNAME=TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM IZU_HTTP_SSL_PORT=443 IZU_HTTP_PORT=-1 TCPIP.DATA has my HOSTNAME TSTJES2 and both TSTJES2 and TSTJES2.MNLIFE.COM both correctly resolve to the test LPAR IP address. Over on the working one I do the same netstat and see the bind: D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON,PORT=443 EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V2R4 TCPIP 600 USER ID CONN LOCAL SOCKET FOREIGN SOCKET STATE IZUSVR1 0004A344 172.16.128.14..443 10.53.240.151..34554 ESTBLSH IZUSVR1 000492CB 0.0.0.0..443 0.0.0.0..0 LISTEN 2 OF 2 RECORDS DISPLAYED END OF THE REPORT In active config: IZU_APPSERVER_HOSTNAME=MVSJES2.MNLIFE.COM IZU_JWKS_HOSTNAME=MVSJES2.MNLIFE.COM IZU_HTTP_SSL_PORT=443 IZU_HTTP_PORT=-1 TCPIP.DATA on working one has HOSTNAME MVSJES2 and everything resolves correctly. Thoughts/ideas? I'm chasing a couple other links people sent me. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there Also, if you cloned prod and changed the IP added and/or domain name, I would check the certs. Do the certs match the SANs? On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:16 PM Michael Babcock wrote: > Does this help? > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://kinsta.com/knowledgebase/pr-end-of > -file-error/*what-causes-the-pr_end_of_file_error__;Iw!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0 > Fj!oaOvtuzKsu_CrFeLcgyUKF_gNSfdjsYOIW2qhL0UuZh7RZ70fpwMbhZmzveK6QkZRvM > nI2nXVMundFuGm1tmuiOd81fQsKoWqjD1$ > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:28 PM Pommier, Rex > wrote: > >> Hi List, >> >> We are attempting our first foray into getting z/OSMF up and running. >> Scenario is we're backleveled maintenance-wise on our 2.4 system. We >> ran the security configuration setup etc and got z/OSMF up and >> running on the production LPAR we are planning on running it from. >> However when we started to load z/OS 3.1 we ran into a problem with >> missing PTFs. Got one set of PTFs installed and after adding a >> local_override.cfg file into the configuration directory we got >> z/OSMF up and running again and past that hurdle. We hit the next >> one requiring a dozen more PTFs to bypass it. We decided to move the >> install to our sandbox just to get z/OSMF working to the point we can >> use it to get our 3.1 software install back on track. I ran >> disk-level flashcopy copies of my entire production LPAR to the >> sandbox, made the required changes (IP addresses etc) to get the >> sandbox up and running. Started z/OSMF and it comes up with no >> errors or warnings (except the one telling me I'm using the local override >> file). However, when I try to get to the web server I get a "secure >> connection failure" >> with " PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR" trying to connect with Firefox and " >> 172.16.128.108 unexpectedly closed the connection" using Chrome. >> Security >> (RACF) is identical to what it is on the production LPAR. z/OSMF >> config is identical as well. Does anybody have any idea what I'm missing? >> >> TIA, >> >> Rex >> >> - >> - The information contained in this message is confidential, >> protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the >> reader of this message is not the intended
Re: DSFS IBM Idea - Please consider voting
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 13:48:56 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Please consider voting on my new IBM Idea for /dsfs >https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-4024 >- this is requesting that dsfs have access to input datasets in the spool >along with the currently supported output datasets. > > I'm curious: How does "tail -f" behave on a DSFS SYSOUT while it is actively being updated by a batch job? Is it comparable to SDSF with auto refresh? Are there any restrictions that should be mentioned in the User's Guide? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM VTS and cloud
https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp5573.pdf Updated Jan 2024. On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 11:07 AM Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > The following scenario: > Two TS770T (with TS4500 attached) connected in grid. > Now there is a business requirement to keep third copy of data in a > cloud, preferably Azure or Google. > Q1: is it feasible? > Q2: is it require to purchase third TS7700 with cloud attachment? > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM VTS and cloud
The following scenario: Two TS770T (with TS4500 attached) connected in grid. Now there is a business requirement to keep third copy of data in a cloud, preferably Azure or Google. Q1: is it feasible? Q2: is it require to purchase third TS7700 with cloud attachment? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
