I would be interested in how IBM intends to support High Watermark Setup (HWS) for Tape - is it their intention to sell more tape drives (real or virtual)? The JES2 implementation of dependent job control (DJC) uses a very different set of control statements than what JES3 has had for decades so I don't see an easy migration for shops with DJC either. Disk readers I can see moving into an automation product. And there are other significant differences which IBM is demonstrating they could give a #@$&! about which all are used to make the JES3 customer productive on the IBM platform.
Just my $0.02 and do not reflect the opinions of my employer or management -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lionel B. Dyck -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Horein Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Get off JES3 is the message was Re: IBM Unveils New IBM Z with Pervasive Encryption On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Edward Gould <edgould1...@comcast.net> wrote: > > On Jul 17, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Clark Morris > > <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > > > [Default] On 16 Jul 2017 21:36:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > > sipp...@sg.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) wrote: > > > >> IBM's press release is available here: > >> > >> https://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/52805.wss > >> > > > > Ater reading the release one strong message I got was that shops > > should get off JES3. It was lagging in implementation of new > > features back in the late 1980s and it costs more. JES2 is now > > supporting JES3 JECL. Is there any reason to stay on JES3 other > > than the pain of conversion? > > > > Clark Morris > > Clark: > > I can think of 2 JES3 shops. One went bankrupt the other is a large > OIL company. They left Chicago and I don’t know where they went. One > of the contributor’s here used to work for the OIL company. I met his > cohort 30 years ago, when I was forced into a meeting. All I remember > was his name was John. I believe they heavily modified JES3. I do not > remember details as it was really long time ago. *IF* I remember > correctly almost any shop that had JES3 modified it in some way. I am not > talking EXITS. > > Ed > > I know of at least 4, one of which I currently work for. I don't directly support the product, but work with putting automation around it, so I don't know details or scope of how modified it is. My impression is that it's not heavily modified. I don't necessarily look forward to conversion, but if there is (eventually) no choice... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
