Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

2016-07-14 Thread Edward Finnell
Yeah if you have MXG there's ANAL30DD PROC that will point out pgms and  
EXCPs. With slight modification could only look for ERB* modules.
 
 
In a message dated 7/14/2016 4:33:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
vicky.toble...@americannational.com writes:

Well -  now we have RMF disabled in IFAPRD00.  We have deleted all start up 
PROCS  and are working to identify TSO panels and batch jobs as well as any 
remaining  RMF load modules.

Yes we are using  SDSF.


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Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

2016-07-14 Thread Tobleman, Vicky
Well - now we have RMF disabled in IFAPRD00.  We have deleted all start up 
PROCS and are working to identify TSO panels and batch jobs as well as any 
remaining RMF load modules.

Yes we are using SDSF.

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Are all references to RMF libraries also removed...are you using SDSF?


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Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

2016-07-14 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 14 Jul 2016 12:45:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
vicky.toble...@americannational.com (Tobleman, Vicky) wrote:

>The issue was in an IBM software audit ... in addition to the SCRT reports, 
>which did not report on RMF, the audit required us to run Usage Reports.  @ 
>the time we had 3 separate environments - two of them had RMF enabled in 
>IFAPRD00, the 3rd plex did not.
>
>There was usage listed on one of the plex's - almost every day for months, 
>even though we can find no record of RMF tasks being started (we run CMF).  
>The other plex that had RMF enabled only had one day in 3 months were it 
>showed RMF usage.  We also used a CMF utility to look for RMF records mixed in 
>with CMF records (all type 70's) but did not find any - so we are fairly 
>confident that the main RMF tasks were not running anywhere.
>
>So I'm thinking that "enabled" is not the only thing causing the usage 
>reporting.  We did get a message from IBM support center that talks about 
>generating RMF usage if you initiate the monitor tasks from TSO or batch - 
>neither of which  would cut RMF records but would cause RMF usage of modules.  
>Perhaps we had a batch job that was scheduled on that plex that ran one of the 
>RMF monitors and we didn't realize.  We'll explore that avenue - unless anyone 
>has something else to suggest.

Check the step completion type 30 records for any of the program names
used by RMF.

Clark Morris 
>
>vicky.tobleman
>
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>Behalf Of Cheryl Watson
>Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:57 AM
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>Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage
>
>Hi Peter,
>
>I think it still goes back to the original contract that has you entitled to 
>RMF, so I would check that first.
>
>Best regards,
>Cheryl
>
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>Subject: Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage
>
>After some research... I am starting to think this might be the case. It 
>appears we had RMF enabled in IFAPRD00, but were not running it. We are 
>running CMF.
>
>Can a SMF type 89 record indicating RMF use be cut under these circumstances?
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

2016-07-14 Thread patrickfalcone7


Are all references to RMF libraries also removed...are you using SDSF?


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From: "Tobleman, Vicky" <vicky.toble...@americannational.com> 
Date: 07/14/2016  3:35 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage 

The issue was in an IBM software audit ... in addition to the SCRT reports, 
which did not report on RMF, the audit required us to run Usage Reports.  @ the 
time we had 3 separate environments - two of them had RMF enabled in IFAPRD00, 
the 3rd plex did not.

There was usage listed on one of the plex's - almost every day for months, even 
though we can find no record of RMF tasks being started (we run CMF).  The 
other plex that had RMF enabled only had one day in 3 months were it showed RMF 
usage.  We also used a CMF utility to look for RMF records mixed in with CMF 
records (all type 70's) but did not find any - so we are fairly confident that 
the main RMF tasks were not running anywhere.

So I'm thinking that "enabled" is not the only thing causing the usage 
reporting.  We did get a message from IBM support center that talks about 
generating RMF usage if you initiate the monitor tasks from TSO or batch - 
neither of which  would cut RMF records but would cause RMF usage of modules.  
Perhaps we had a batch job that was scheduled on that plex that ran one of the 
RMF monitors and we didn't realize.  We'll explore that avenue - unless anyone 
has something else to suggest.

vicky.tobleman

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Cheryl Watson
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

Hi Peter,

I think it still goes back to the original contract that has you entitled to 
RMF, so I would check that first.

Best regards,
Cheryl

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Of Peter Ten Eyck
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:56 AM
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Subject: Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

After some research... I am starting to think this might be the case. It 
appears we had RMF enabled in IFAPRD00, but were not running it. We are running 
CMF.

Can a SMF type 89 record indicating RMF use be cut under these circumstances?

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Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

2016-07-14 Thread Tobleman, Vicky
The issue was in an IBM software audit ... in addition to the SCRT reports, 
which did not report on RMF, the audit required us to run Usage Reports.  @ the 
time we had 3 separate environments - two of them had RMF enabled in IFAPRD00, 
the 3rd plex did not.

There was usage listed on one of the plex's - almost every day for months, even 
though we can find no record of RMF tasks being started (we run CMF).  The 
other plex that had RMF enabled only had one day in 3 months were it showed RMF 
usage.  We also used a CMF utility to look for RMF records mixed in with CMF 
records (all type 70's) but did not find any - so we are fairly confident that 
the main RMF tasks were not running anywhere.

So I'm thinking that "enabled" is not the only thing causing the usage 
reporting.  We did get a message from IBM support center that talks about 
generating RMF usage if you initiate the monitor tasks from TSO or batch - 
neither of which  would cut RMF records but would cause RMF usage of modules.  
Perhaps we had a batch job that was scheduled on that plex that ran one of the 
RMF monitors and we didn't realize.  We'll explore that avenue - unless anyone 
has something else to suggest.

vicky.tobleman

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Cheryl Watson
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

Hi Peter,

I think it still goes back to the original contract that has you entitled to 
RMF, so I would check that first.

Best regards,
Cheryl

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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMF type 89 records reporting RMF usage

After some research... I am starting to think this might be the case. It 
appears we had RMF enabled in IFAPRD00, but were not running it. We are running 
CMF.

Can a SMF type 89 record indicating RMF use be cut under these circumstances?

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