Re: Copy a SVC Dump

2014-04-23 Thread Nick Jones
As far as I know, the supported method to copy dumps is using IPCS copy dump.

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieac500/cpydump.htm
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r13/topic/com.ibm.zos.r13.ieac500/cpydump.htm

Copy dump can be invoked by batch jcl or via the IPCS dialog 3.2

-Nick Jones
z/OS Service Aids/IPCS

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Re: Copy of SVC Dump

2014-04-23 Thread Mark Yuhas
On 22 April 2014 19:01, Mark Yuhas mark.yu...@paccar.com wrote:
 Bear with me.  I have an old program that copies a SVC Dump to regular data 
 set with a non-system DSN.  It has been working for many years.  I need to 
 make a few changes for the current configuration of z/OS 1.13.  IPCS accepts 
 the system dump data set but rejects the one-off data set saying there is no 
 directory record.  I added the dump record via the IPCS ADDDUMP command.  
 Now, IPCS accepts the dump but when I try to analyze it via IPCS commands, it 
 states that information is missing.

 I performed an ISPF compare of the data sets.  According to that test, the 
 data sets are the same.  I'm stumped.  Is there something new about copying 
 dump data sets in 1.13?

Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net responded
Is your output RECFM=FBS,LRECL=4160? If it's (say) FB or has the wrong
LRECL, IPCS will treat it as a trace or other non-dump dataset, and
produce confusing messages.

Tony H.

Thanks for the insight.  I converted to FBS and all is well.


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Copy a SVC Dump

2014-04-22 Thread Mark Yuhas
Bear with me.  I have an old program that copies a SVC Dump to regular data set 
with a non-system DSN.  It has been working for many years.  I need to make a 
few changes for the current configuration of z/OS 1.13.  IPCS accepts the 
system dump data set but rejects the one-off data set saying there is no 
directory record.  I added the dump record via the IPCS ADDDUMP command.  Now, 
IPCS accepts the dump but when I try to analyze it via IPCS commands, it states 
that information is missing.

I performed an ISPF compare of the data sets.  According to that test, the data 
sets are the same.  I'm stumped.  Is there something new about copying dump 
data sets in 1.13?

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Re: Copy a SVC Dump

2014-04-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 April 2014 19:01, Mark Yuhas mark.yu...@paccar.com wrote:
 Bear with me.  I have an old program that copies a SVC Dump to regular data 
 set with a non-system DSN.  It has been working for many years.  I need to 
 make a few changes for the current configuration of z/OS 1.13.  IPCS accepts 
 the system dump data set but rejects the one-off data set saying there is no 
 directory record.  I added the dump record via the IPCS ADDDUMP command.  
 Now, IPCS accepts the dump but when I try to analyze it via IPCS commands, it 
 states that information is missing.

 I performed an ISPF compare of the data sets.  According to that test, the 
 data sets are the same.  I'm stumped.  Is there something new about copying 
 dump data sets in 1.13?

Is your output RECFM=FBS,LRECL=4160? If it's (say) FB or has the wrong
LRECL, IPCS will treat it as a trace or other non-dump dataset, and
produce confusing messages.

Tony H.

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Re: Copy a SVC Dump

2014-04-22 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:01:52 +, Mark Yuhas wrote:

Is there something new about copying dump data sets in 1.13?

Maybe - those in the know will be able to answer that (hopefully) definitively.
I had a similar experience with 1.13. Fortunately I was able to get to the 
original dumps before they were purged and use IPCS COPYDUMP to get a valid 
copy. Don't recall it happening previous to 1.13, but don't know if dump copies 
were taken at those releases (not my shop).

Shane ...

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