Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Roger Lowe
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:31:26 -0700, Lizette Koehler  
wrote:

>If you fix the issue, and the DAE entry is still in place, you might not see 
>if there is an issue.
>
>So as always, it depends.
>
>By removing the entry in DAE it might show if you actually fixed it
>
>Lizette
>
>
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>Jousma, David
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>Subject: Re: DAE Dataset - Compression
>
>I guess I don’t agree with that Lizette?  I mean we can agree to disagree, 
>there are many ways to run our environments, but clearing out DAE will just 
>retrigger DUMPs for repetitive issues all over again?  It may be old 
>technology, but it works!   1400+ unique entries in our 20% utilized dae 
>allocated at 45 trks.   Usually it’s the DB2 sysprogs that come to me to 
>re-enable a certain dump that’s being suppressed.
>
>Now, clearing out the sysplex dump directory regularly is something I agree 
>with.
>
>- DAE Display -
>  Row 1 to 14 of 1,437 
>Command ===>  Scroll ===> CSR  
>  Enter an Action Code next to an entry.   
>  Enter / next to an entry to choose from a list of Action Codes.  
>   
>  Dataset: 'SYS2.SYSPLEX.DAE'  
>  Dumps  since last DAE Display: 215 Total Dumps suppressed: 163672
>  Events since last DAE Display: 110606  Suppression rate:   94%   
>
Have a look in "hlq.SBLSCLI0(ADYUPDAT)" and you can possibly use that to manage 
DAE as one of the options is CLEANUP and with that you can specify that entries 
older than so many days are deleted - no need to compress DAE.

Roger

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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you fix the issue, and the DAE entry is still in place, you might not see if 
there is an issue.

So as always, it depends.

By removing the entry in DAE it might show if you actually fixed it

Lizette


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Subject: Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

I guess I don’t agree with that Lizette?  I mean we can agree to disagree, 
there are many ways to run our environments, but clearing out DAE will just 
retrigger DUMPs for repetitive issues all over again?  It may be old 
technology, but it works!   1400+ unique entries in our 20% utilized dae 
allocated at 45 trks.   Usually it’s the DB2 sysprogs that come to me to 
re-enable a certain dump that’s being suppressed.

Now, clearing out the sysplex dump directory regularly is something I agree 
with.

- DAE Display -
  Row 1 to 14 of 1,437 
Command ===>  Scroll ===> CSR  
  Enter an Action Code next to an entry.   
  Enter / next to an entry to choose from a list of Action Codes.  
   
  Dataset: 'SYS2.SYSPLEX.DAE'  
  Dumps  since last DAE Display: 215 Total Dumps suppressed: 163672
  Events since last DAE Display: 110606  Suppression rate:   94%   

_
Dave Jousma
AVP | Director, Technology Engineering  

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49546
616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717


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I have not read this whole thread, so I apologize if I cover the same ground

DAE dataset is very old technology.  It is a sequential file and I am not sure 
you can make it compressed.  That could be an RFS

Second - shutting down DAE like you did - is the correct process

There is no reason to keep everything in DAE unless you want to

Every time we put in a new z/OS OS. I clear out completely the DAE dataset.  

Depending on how active your system is for abends, you might just want to make 
it bigger.


You might need to put a process in place to clear it out weekly or daily or 
other


Lizette



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Subject: DAE Dataset - Compression

Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE dataset can be 
allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our shared DAE dataset to a newly 
allocated one that with compression enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we 
received was this; COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE TRANSACTION 
PROCESSOR FOR DAE

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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Jousma, David
I guess I don’t agree with that Lizette?  I mean we can agree to disagree, 
there are many ways to run our environments, but clearing out DAE will just 
retrigger DUMPs for repetitive issues all over again?  It may be old 
technology, but it works!   1400+ unique entries in our 20% utilized dae 
allocated at 45 trks.   Usually it’s the DB2 sysprogs that come to me to 
re-enable a certain dump that’s being suppressed.

Now, clearing out the sysplex dump directory regularly is something I agree 
with.

- DAE Display -
  Row 1 to 14 of 1,437 
Command ===>  Scroll ===> CSR  
  Enter an Action Code next to an entry.   
  Enter / next to an entry to choose from a list of Action Codes.  
   
  Dataset: 'SYS2.SYSPLEX.DAE'  
  Dumps  since last DAE Display: 215 Total Dumps suppressed: 163672
  Events since last DAE Display: 110606  Suppression rate:   94%   

_
Dave Jousma
AVP | Director, Technology Engineering  

Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 
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616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717


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I have not read this whole thread, so I apologize if I cover the same ground

DAE dataset is very old technology.  It is a sequential file and I am not sure 
you can make it compressed.  That could be an RFS

Second - shutting down DAE like you did - is the correct process

There is no reason to keep everything in DAE unless you want to

Every time we put in a new z/OS OS. I clear out completely the DAE dataset.  

Depending on how active your system is for abends, you might just want to make 
it bigger.


You might need to put a process in place to clear it out weekly or daily or 
other


Lizette



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Subject: DAE Dataset - Compression

Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE dataset can be 
allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our shared DAE dataset to a newly 
allocated one that with compression enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we 
received was this; COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE TRANSACTION 
PROCESSOR FOR DAE

Mark Jacobs

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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have not read this whole thread, so I apologize if I cover the same ground

DAE dataset is very old technology.  It is a sequential file and I am not sure 
you can make it compressed.  That could be an RFS

Second - shutting down DAE like you did - is the correct process

There is no reason to keep everything in DAE unless you want to

Every time we put in a new z/OS OS. I clear out completely the DAE dataset.  

Depending on how active your system is for abends, you might just want to make 
it bigger.


You might need to put a process in place to clear it out weekly or daily or 
other


Lizette



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Subject: DAE Dataset - Compression

Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE dataset can be 
allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our shared DAE dataset to a newly 
allocated one that with compression enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we 
received was this; COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE TRANSACTION 
PROCESSOR FOR DAE

Mark Jacobs

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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Jim Mulder
  DAE uses QSAM  - the DCB is

DAEDCB DCB MACRF=(GL,PM),DSORG=PS,RECFM=FB,LRECL=255,EROPT=ACC

 I don't know offhand of anything that would preclude using 
compressed data set for DAE. 

Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp. 
Poughkeepsie NY


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> Subject: Re: DAE Dataset - Compression
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> On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
> > Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE 
> dataset can be allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our 
> shared DAE dataset to a newly allocated one that with compression 
> enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we received was this; 
> COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE TRANSACTION PROCESSOR FOR DAE
> > 
> > Mark Jacobs

> 
> Best guess is that datasets like DAE, LOGREC, etc. are so early in the 
> IPL that we don't have niceties like compression, extended format, etc. 
> DFSMS comes up way later.
> 
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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
Point noted. Thanks.

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> I guess my point was why even bother with dataset compression, even if it was 
> 100 cylinders.
>
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> > How big is your DAE dataset? We've got sysplex shared DAE, and it’s a 
> > whopping 45 tracks, and only 20% utilized.
> >
> > Dave Jousma
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> > > >
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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Jousma, David
I guess my point was why even bother with dataset compression, even if it was 
100 cylinders.

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> How big is your DAE dataset? We've got sysplex shared DAE, and it’s a 
> whopping 45 tracks, and only 20% utilized.
>
> Dave Jousma
>
> AVP | Director, Technology Engineering
>
> Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand 
> Rapids, MI 49546
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> > On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > > Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE
> > >
> > > dataset can be allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our
> > >
> > > shared DAE dataset to a newly allocated one that with compression
> > >
> > > enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we received was this;
> > >
> > > COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE TRANSACTION PROCESSOR 
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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
The old one is 6 cylinders in size and is 100% full. We're a software 
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<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> How big is your DAE dataset? We've got sysplex shared DAE, and it’s a 
> whopping 45 tracks, and only 20% utilized.
>
> Dave Jousma
>
> AVP | Director, Technology Engineering 
>
> Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, 
> MI 49546
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> > > Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE
> > >
> > > dataset can be allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our
> > >
> > > shared DAE dataset to a newly allocated one that with compression
> > >
> > > enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we received was this;
> > >
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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Jousma, David
How big is your DAE dataset? We've got sysplex shared DAE, and it’s a whopping 
45 tracks, and only 20% utilized.

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I issued a T DAE=01 to stop it across the sysplex, renamed the DAE datasets and 
then restarted DAE, T DAE=00.

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> On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
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> > Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE 
> > dataset can be allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our 
> > shared DAE dataset to a newly allocated one that with compression 
> > enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we received was this; 
> > COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE TRANSACTION PROCESSOR FOR 
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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
I issued a T DAE=01 to stop it across the sysplex, renamed the DAE datasets and 
then restarted DAE, T DAE=00.

Mark Jacobs

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On Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 at 10:11 AM, Tom Conley 
 wrote:

> On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
>
> > Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE dataset can 
> > be allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our shared DAE dataset to a 
> > newly allocated one that with compression enabled. It didn't go well. One 
> > SVCDUMP we received was this; COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE 
> > TRANSACTION PROCESSOR FOR DAE
> >
> > Mark Jacobs
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> IPL that we don't have niceties like compression, extended format, etc.
>
> DFSMS comes up way later.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom Conley
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Re: DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Tom Conley

On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:

Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE dataset can be 
allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our shared DAE dataset to a newly 
allocated one that with compression enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we 
received was this; COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE TRANSACTION 
PROCESSOR FOR DAE

Mark Jacobs

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Best guess is that datasets like DAE, LOGREC, etc. are so early in the 
IPL that we don't have niceties like compression, extended format, etc. 
DFSMS comes up way later.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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DAE Dataset - Compression

2020-10-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
Before I open up a ticket with IBM I wanted to ask if the DAE dataset can be 
allocated as compressed? I tried to migrate our shared DAE dataset to a newly 
allocated one that with compression enabled. It didn't go well. One SVCDUMP we 
received was this; COMPID=SC143,ISSUER=ADYTRNS FAILURE IN THE TRANSACTION 
PROCESSOR FOR DAE

Mark Jacobs

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