Re: FW: COBOL NJ
Open Mainframe Project members and community, We just announced today with support from Open Mainframe Project members Broadcom, IBM, Phoenix Software, Rocket Software, SUSE, Vicom Infinity, and Zoss Team, a series of initiatives to support the need for COBOL expertise in response to the COVID-19 crisis. Please see the blog announcement made below... https://www.openmainframeproject.org/blog/2020/04/09/open-mainframe-project-helps-fill-the-need-for-cobol-resources Please share the below social posts with your networks: Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenMFProject/status/1248327010268610572 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6654097221400829952/ As we all are members of the mainframe community, supporting each other in this time of need is critical. Each of you in the community has an opportunity to be a part of this by... - posting your availability for volunteer or work-for-hire work for state and local governments and other critical organizations in need with COBOL in the 'Calling all COBOL Programmers' topic on the OMP Community Forums ( https://community.openmainframeproject.org/c/calling-all-cobol-programmers/15 ) - providing your expertise to others that are working on COBOL systems that are responding to the COVID-19 crisis in the 'COBOL technical questions' topic on the OMP Community Forums ( https://community.openmainframeproject.org/c/cobol-technical-questions/16 ) Each and every one of us is a critical piece in helping overcome this global pandemic, and I know that the mainframe community is one to step up to the challenge. Thank you all for your dedication, and I look forward to working with you in this cause. Thank you, John Mertic Director of Program Management - Linux Foundation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [External] Re: FW: COBOL NJ
Well, it's obvious from the article that all mainframes are 50 years old, and their COBOL programs are over 40 years old, that they haven't been touched since then - so anybody who worked on them has to be in their 70s and retired, and bored so just looking for something to do to take up some of their free time so it stands to reason that they wouldn't want to actually get paid to update this ancient stuff and ruin their retirement income! Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of scott Ford Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: FW: COBOL NJ Why am I not surprised On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:59 PM Steve Beaver wrote: > No Pay = They really don't want competent help > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of scott Ford > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 11:56 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: FW: COBOL NJ > > So do I assume volunteers mean no pay ? > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:48 PM Jack J. Woehr wrote: > > > On 4/8/20 7:58 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > > (Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially > > > an > > activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important > > it's a philosophy, a way of approaching the discovery of knowledge. > > By that definition some scientists aren't, and some non-scientists are. > > > > > > And it's salutary to remember that it was uttered by the man dubbed > > "BHA" by the engineers at Apple Computer :) > > > > > > -- > > Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way > of > > www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the > > universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human > > fallibility. - Carl Sagan > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > > > > *IDMWORKS * > > Scott Ford > > z/OS Dev. > > > > > “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning > a friend or collegue you demean yourself” > > > > www.idmworks.com > > scott.f...@idmworks.com > > Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog > > > > > > *The information contained in this email message and any attachment > may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected > from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the message and > permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout > thereof.* > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you demean yourself” www.idmworks.com scott.f...@idmworks.com Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout thereof.* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified tha
Re: FW: COBOL NJ
Why am I not surprised On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:59 PM Steve Beaver wrote: > No Pay = They really don't want competent help > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of scott Ford > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 11:56 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: FW: COBOL NJ > > So do I assume volunteers mean no pay ? > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:48 PM Jack J. Woehr wrote: > > > On 4/8/20 7:58 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > > (Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially an > > activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important it's a > > philosophy, a way of approaching the discovery of knowledge. By that > > definition some scientists aren't, and some non-scientists are. > > > > > > And it's salutary to remember that it was uttered by the man dubbed > > "BHA" by the engineers at Apple Computer :) > > > > > > -- > > Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way > of > > www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the > > universe > > www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - > > Carl Sagan > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > > > > *IDMWORKS * > > Scott Ford > > z/OS Dev. > > > > > “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a > friend or collegue you demean yourself” > > > > www.idmworks.com > > scott.f...@idmworks.com > > Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog > > > > > > *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be > privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from > disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or > use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to > the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any > printout thereof.* > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you demean yourself” www.idmworks.com scott.f...@idmworks.com Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout thereof.* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: COBOL NJ
No Pay = They really don't want competent help -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of scott Ford Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: COBOL NJ So do I assume volunteers mean no pay ? On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:48 PM Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 4/8/20 7:58 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > (Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially an > activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important it's a > philosophy, a way of approaching the discovery of knowledge. By that > definition some scientists aren't, and some non-scientists are. > > > And it's salutary to remember that it was uttered by the man dubbed > "BHA" by the engineers at Apple Computer :) > > > -- > Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of > www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the > universe > www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - > Carl Sagan > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you demean yourself” www.idmworks.com scott.f...@idmworks.com Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout thereof.* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: COBOL NJ
So do I assume volunteers mean no pay ? On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:48 PM Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 4/8/20 7:58 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > (Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially an > activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important it's a > philosophy, a way of approaching the discovery of knowledge. By that > definition some scientists aren't, and some non-scientists are. > > > And it's salutary to remember that it was uttered by the man dubbed > "BHA" by the engineers at Apple Computer :) > > > -- > Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of > www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the > universe > www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - > Carl Sagan > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you demean yourself” www.idmworks.com scott.f...@idmworks.com Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout thereof.* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: COBOL NJ
On 4/8/20 7:58 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: (Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially an activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important it's a philosophy, a way of approaching the discovery of knowledge. By that definition some scientists aren't, and some non-scientists are. And it's salutary to remember that it was uttered by the man dubbed "BHA" by the engineers at Apple Computer :) -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: COBOL NJ
(Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially an activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important it's a philosophy, a way of approaching the discovery of knowledge. By that definition some scientists aren't, and some non-scientists are. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Men are qualified for civil liberty, in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetitesSociety cannot exist unless a controling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters. -Edmund Burke, 1791 */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 21:12 Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: COBOL NJ
On 4/8/20 3:58 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: From another list: https://forms.business.nj.gov/tech/ Thanks, Paul -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: COBOL NJ
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 23:13:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > >From: Jack J. Woehr >Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 6:40 PM > >Can someone please ask to the list to whom to apply for COBOL volunteers >for New Jersey? > >Friends are asking me. > From another list: https://forms.business.nj.gov/tech/ -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: COBOL NJ
Thanks, volunteers on hand and waiting and I seem to be back on the list :) On 4/5/20 5:13 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: From: Jack J. Woehr [j...@well.com] Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 6:40 PM To: Seymour J Metz Subject: COBOL NJ Suddenly my mail to IBM-MAIN is bouncing. Can someone please ask to the list to whom to apply for COBOL volunteers for New Jersey? Friends are asking me. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: COBOL NJ
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: Jack J. Woehr [j...@well.com] Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 6:40 PM To: Seymour J Metz Subject: COBOL NJ Suddenly my mail to IBM-MAIN is bouncing. Can someone please ask to the list to whom to apply for COBOL volunteers for New Jersey? Friends are asking me. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of http://secure-web.cisco.com/1qdZkY1N5suQLoItlAUeLGGrqcVm5KUPsgDyNp75sKnfzD7rxCv5XBvHjq1jaAfmohaiYO08CEdPv32mwLJb3cgoT_SjKZLKj8qUWQW14V1SoHFcLzCB-4V7_fqn2briY3lzg9ncd3Qq6t3UpsDvf3urdJqNfTvMBWrBXjEQnM59KvSF6M16GmKVIk5gXGH6JURPv8FWK75czdRIXQbObxcdm7I3o9G_Z3uBywR_1uJm09_1qdp7SupEX_FHWxZ3_erlYzalsnY-rr8VRVjR4fbZgurDaYnGaDKQFdazOintPjCtFN9ubYaHN4LKP55e1EzVPRpTZnvT_kNzO7oJY_TjcOEWSv8CxdwCe6cO_n8A3kUtL8rn4C3JowX00vHxr2Tuy6l5hAL5nuT8ZZ0OPwrR_upFeEVwXhDnHDmrQhInRMxJK8aExMXLyjFZlUsj3/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.well.com%2F%7Ejax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe http://secure-web.cisco.com/1ICOv4qQqSi6VfMU0lGCVj2rpXrq-wCmxsgwSyi1-oXBgNQxI8nYsNT1pZFTmJMO443cZBdIM32gtfzlZMVyep_KFn7k_Awp5V_IItSxD-lByMAfqEuXqbFXtiEAR7j7NLQOU5tnvpfIKGcmYSNGr3O4JiC7ebIhBTHVwLPAS_EFPMYH4mzbvuF5GscEMUMvQHfllx-zUcdxKA-C-pl7McXqfyZP3nzqwp-Xc-f-087y55eTQxDNPyWAtw0-6wM6pXk1CpRzROmpe-DVs9yflDfk2oVUnkTXGlrwWEK43X9TabcaAH3DyQuUXxzQOYBuEWBnQlA03FoDeVTXVJfYuQBfInl4J628cIboJCjTZxE6WuT2hB-TmA4uSMiH_VDvfzCXlGJ0Yk20_niffLZp9uKV5wlLVcCzK0hCIKejWwyrktikBTdzWyi0kys2HriPp/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
