Re: FW: Linux (zLinux) on zSeries

2018-03-26 Thread Jantje.
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 00:18:56 -0500, Munif Sadek  wrote:
>Req: TYPE A   
>Rsp: 200 Representation type is Ascii NonPrint
>Req: NLST /software/RHEL/generic.ins/.
>Rsp: 550 No data sets found.  
>
>But I can assure you DataSet or unix file generic.ins is there. May someone 
>help Please? 
>
>regards
>Prabhat
>
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FTP_commands :

NLST  Returns a list of file names in a specified directory. 

But it looks to me you have specified a file instead of the directory. I 
suggest you go over the parameters again; there is probably a field in which 
you have entered too much data.

Cheers,

Jantje.

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Re: FW: Linux (zLinux) on zSeries

2018-03-22 Thread Munif Sadek
Thank you.

we have got couple of IFLs from IBM for our POC so all good. 

I have activated my LPAR on IFL and can see LINUX on System Management -> 
Partitions -> and LPAR icon. 

Now when I am trying to use -RECOVERY -> Load from Removable Media or Server, I 
am getting

"An error occurred while trying to obtain a list of software that can be 
loaded. Please verify the information you entered and that the correct media in 
the selected drive." ACT36201

IP Packet trace is:

Req: USER XX
Rsp: 331 Send password please.
Req: PASS XX
Rsp: 230 X is logged on.  Working directory is "XX.".  
Req: PASV 
Rsp: 227 Entering Passive Mode (NNN,NNN,NNN,NNN,8,58)  
Syn Win=14600 Seq=2430599268 MaxSeg=1460 WScale=7 Sack-P TimeS... 
Ack Syn Win=65535 Seq=2112466531 Ack=2430599269 MaxSeg=1460 WScale... 
Ack Win=115 Seq=2430599269 Ack=2112466532 TimeStamp   
Req: TYPE A   
Rsp: 200 Representation type is Ascii NonPrint
Req: NLST /software/RHEL/generic.ins/.
Rsp: 550 No data sets found.  

But I can assure you DataSet or unix file generic.ins is there. May someone 
help Please? 

regards
Prabhat

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FW: Linux (zLinux) on zSeries

2018-02-12 Thread David Boyes
On 2/11/18, 7:24 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Munif Sadek" 
 wrote:

>Finally we are getting an IFL from IBM on trial  to install Linux on our 
> z13. No KVM or zVM on the Mainframe.

Seriously reconsider this - not having zVM or KVM -  you will want/need a 
virtualization capability beyond just LPARs. The cost case does not work at all 
for one Linux machine - Z hardware is way too expensive in comparison with the 
alternatives. Being able to spin up virtual systems on demand via something 
like OpenStack is one of the major wins for Linux on Z. Both zVM and KVM have 
OpenStack plugins.

z/VM (my preference and recommendation) will pay for itself just from the 
simplicity of isolation from any hardware details and its ability to 
dynamically move resources around without downtime, and zVM has been around 
long enough to know how to play nice with other Z operating systems. I'm less 
familiar with KVM, but you'll be able to leverage your distributed systems 
people if they use KVM on Intel. IBM can usually lend you a zVM license for 
evaluation purposes, and I believe KVM is no charge, but lacks a lot of the 
management and performance capabilities of zVM. Dealing with the bare metal is 
still a major pain in Linux; the tools aren't there yet or are 
arcane/obscure/badly documented; just skip the hassle and use zVM. You'll 
wonder why you ever tolerated the limitations of LPARs. 

 > I am looking for any redbooks or IBM installation document for Linux on 
 > zSeries. I am inclined towards  Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS 7
 >  as I expect it to be better integrated with APACHE SPARK.

There are three major choices:

- RHEL and RHEL-derived systems like ClefOS (a Z version of CentOS, which 
is a RHEL clone)
- SLES
- Debian/Ubuntu

Pick the one you use on your Intel systems, you'll be a lot happier and won't 
have to invent as many processes to manage it or argue about it with the Intel 
folks. You don't need to invent the wheel here; use what you already know plus 
whatever you have to do to get a virtualization environment running. 

>Hopefully IBM zLinux document can give me comparative studies of different 
> Linux distribution available on zSeries.

There is an IBM manual called "Getting started with Linux on System z" that 
is included with the zVM documentation that is a pretty good overview. There 
are also redbooks on RHEL and SLES:

The Virtualization Cookbook for IBM z Systems Volume 1: IBM z/VM 6.3, 
SG24-8147-01
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248303.html for RHEL/RHEL derived 
systems
The Virtualization Cookbook for IBM z Systems Volume 3: SUSE Linux 
Enterprise Server 12, SG24-8890

The Canonical people haven't done a similar redbook for Debian/Ubuntu on Z 
yet, but the concepts are very similar to RHEL. 

>seeking expert advise , experience,   gotchas, ROTs.

Some things we learned:

1. Get a virtualization tool like zVM or KVM.

2. Make sure you have at least 2 physical engines in the LPAR you intend to 
use Linux on, and at least 2 virtual CPUs in your VMs. Linux can and does 
exploit this, and will be sluggish in some situations without multiple CPUs 
available. If you run under VM and can test only one physical CPU in your LPAR, 
zVM will simulate the virtual CPUs at a slight performance penalty; you can 
have one physical CPU and as many virtual machines with as many virtual CPUs as 
you can define (I've run virtual 64-ways many times). 

3. Conform as much as possible to the choices of distribution, etc. that 
you use elsewhere in your business. You don't need that argument with the 
distributed folks.

4. Make sure you have a good performance monitor both on Z *and* on your 
current Intel systems if you're moving workload. Very few people know their 
workloads well enough to make valid comparisons, and hard numbers don't lie. 

5. Do not use ROT on memory sizing; smaller is often better because most 
Unix systems use memory cache to compensate for poor I/O hardware. You will 
probably need only about half the machine size you need on distributed systems; 
it's a good place to start, and you can make the virtual machine bigger 
non-disruptively to the whole setup if it doesn't work. You really don't need 
multi-gig SGA for Oracle, for example, no matter what your DBAs think. 

6. Put the Linux OS on 3390 disks, and data on FCP disk. 3390 disk can be 
quickly recovered; FCP is awkward on Z, but necessary for more than a few gig 
of disk. 
Assembling 100G from mod 3s just isn't practical 
7. Make sure your backup solution can handle FCP disks. Most Z backup 
solutions can't, or can only do image backups. You may need to employ whatever 
system your distributed system backups use; check to see if a Z client exists. 
Most non-Z vendors can't spell Z, with a few exceptions.

8. Use two zVM VDISK swap