Re: Fwd: 3 aging IT specialties that just won't retire
Timely this quarter's ezine from Long Pela ventures some thoughtful opinions on Exits http://longpelaexpertise.com.au/ezine/current.php LongEx Mainframe Quarterly - Nov 2018 A Fresh Look at Exits Not the normal exits you think of when there's a fire in the building. In z/OS terms, an Exit is a hook we can use to insert our own code into the normal processing of z/OS and other systems. This month, we're taking a look at these Exits. Best Regards, Sam Knutson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 6:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fwd: 3 aging IT specialties that just won't retire ICHPWX01 can be REXX exit. JESJOBS instead of exit IRRPRMxx instead of ICHRDSNT -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2018-12-02 o 23:47, David Spiegel pisze: > Yeah, NetView for example, but, not the BCP, RACF etc. > > On 2018-12-02 17:37, R.S. wrote: >> W dniu 2018-12-02 o 19:10, David Spiegel pisze: >>> In the article, it says: "... the now-obsolete Assembly programming >>> language. ..." >>> Really?! ... How else does one write Operating System Exits? >>> Java??? >>> What utter nonsense. >> Well, you can write some exits in REXX. >> However long term goal is to avoid exit coding. Avoid assembling >> configuration data. >> More and more things can be done without assembler. >> While I use (and customize a little bit) some exits, I won't say I >> know assembler. And I'm administering 24/7/365 banking system for 18 >> years. >> So, yes - assembler coding knowledge is less and less required, while >> there is neverending demand for COBOL developers. >> >> Just my €0.02, YMMV, etc. >> > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169,248,488 as at 1 January 2018. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: 3 aging IT specialties that just won't retire
ICHPWX01 can be REXX exit. JESJOBS instead of exit IRRPRMxx instead of ICHRDSNT -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2018-12-02 o 23:47, David Spiegel pisze: Yeah, NetView for example, but, not the BCP, RACF etc. On 2018-12-02 17:37, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2018-12-02 o 19:10, David Spiegel pisze: In the article, it says: "... the now-obsolete Assembly programming language. ..." Really?! ... How else does one write Operating System Exits? Java??? What utter nonsense. Well, you can write some exits in REXX. However long term goal is to avoid exit coding. Avoid assembling configuration data. More and more things can be done without assembler. While I use (and customize a little bit) some exits, I won't say I know assembler. And I'm administering 24/7/365 banking system for 18 years. So, yes - assembler coding knowledge is less and less required, while there is neverending demand for COBOL developers. Just my €0.02, YMMV, etc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169,248,488 as at 1 January 2018. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: 3 aging IT specialties that just won't retire
Yeah, NetView for example, but, not the BCP, RACF etc. On 2018-12-02 17:37, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2018-12-02 o 19:10, David Spiegel pisze: >> In the article, it says: "... the now-obsolete Assembly programming >> language. ..." >> Really?! ... How else does one write Operating System Exits? >> Java??? >> What utter nonsense. > > Well, you can write some exits in REXX. > However long term goal is to avoid exit coding. Avoid assembling > configuration data. > More and more things can be done without assembler. > While I use (and customize a little bit) some exits, I won't say I > know assembler. And I'm administering 24/7/365 banking system for 18 > years. > So, yes - assembler coding knowledge is less and less required, while > there is neverending demand for COBOL developers. > > Just my €0.02, YMMV, etc. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: 3 aging IT specialties that just won't retire
W dniu 2018-12-02 o 19:10, David Spiegel pisze: In the article, it says: "... the now-obsolete Assembly programming language. ..." Really?! ... How else does one write Operating System Exits? Java??? What utter nonsense. Well, you can write some exits in REXX. However long term goal is to avoid exit coding. Avoid assembling configuration data. More and more things can be done without assembler. While I use (and customize a little bit) some exits, I won't say I know assembler. And I'm administering 24/7/365 banking system for 18 years. So, yes - assembler coding knowledge is less and less required, while there is neverending demand for COBOL developers. Just my €0.02, YMMV, etc. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169,248,488 as at 1 January 2018. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: 3 aging IT specialties that just won't retire
In the article, it says: "... the now-obsolete Assembly programming language. ..." Really?! ... How else does one write Operating System Exits? Java??? What utter nonsense. On 2018-12-02 12:51, Mark Regan wrote: > That system runs what? IT leaders face a quandary as Boomers vanish, but > the need for COBOL, mainframe, and legacy storage skills does not > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fenterprisersproject.com%2Farticle%2F2018%2F11%2F3-aging-it-specialties-just-won-t-retiredata=02%7C01%7C%7C5b261512130a4bd2243008d6587ee09e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636793699294469806sdata=BbA44irkGCNJBaXZZuA%2B18aUAJaPJYFI0e7nFJZXZKU%3Dreserved=0 > > Mark T. Regan, K8MTR > > > CTO1, USNR-Retired > 1969-1991 > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: 3 aging IT specialties that just won't retire
I’ve talked to employers who still won’t permit things like remote work, so how desperate can they be? They want mainframe skills, but on their terms. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 2, 2018, 12:51 PM, Mark Regan wrote: That system runs what? IT leaders face a quandary as Boomers vanish, but the need for COBOL, mainframe, and legacy storage skills does not https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2018/11/3-aging-it-specialties-just-won-t-retire Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1, USNR-Retired 1969-1991 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Fwd: 3 aging IT specialties that just won't retire
That system runs what? IT leaders face a quandary as Boomers vanish, but the need for COBOL, mainframe, and legacy storage skills does not https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2018/11/3-aging-it-specialties-just-won-t-retire Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1, USNR-Retired 1969-1991 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
