Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
Thanks. That was what I was looking for. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com On Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 at 9:45 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > W dniu 09.02.2024 o 15:53, Mark Jacobs pisze: > > > I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my recollection > > that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special powers as relating to > > systems programmer type management activities. Can anyone point me to the > > documentation if true, or tell me I'm incorrect if I am? Thanks. > > > The only difference I know is multiple cataloging. > I wrote about it recently. > > Regular non-VSAM dataset can be cataloged as many times as you want. > VSAM dataset has backward ref in VVDS and that's why it won't allow to > be recataloged more than once. > However IBM created exception for HLQ SYS1 and PAGE. > Remarks: > - it is relevant to VSAM datasets because of reasons described above > - there is no checking what kid of VSAM with HLQ=PAGE you want to > recatalog. I can be non-page VSAM as well. > - there is also no checking for the purpose of SYS1 datasets. > > BTW: The above is about dataset names. > However if you want to fix page datasets, just use &SYSNAME in your > IEASYSxx member or separate IEASYSxx members (added to IEASYS00, which > is mandatory). The HLQ is not really important. It can be PAGE or SYS1 > or WHATEVER (assuming MCAT). > > > HTH > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
W dniu 09.02.2024 o 15:53, Mark Jacobs pisze: I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my recollection that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special powers as relating to systems programmer type management activities. Can anyone point me to the documentation if true, or tell me I'm incorrect if I am? Thanks. The only difference I know is multiple cataloging. I wrote about it recently. Regular non-VSAM dataset can be cataloged as many times as you want. VSAM dataset has backward ref in VVDS and that's why it won't allow to be recataloged more than once. However IBM created exception for HLQ SYS1 and PAGE. Remarks: - it is relevant to VSAM datasets because of reasons described above - there is no checking what kid of VSAM with HLQ=PAGE you want to recatalog. I can be non-page VSAM as well. - there is also no checking for the purpose of SYS1 datasets. BTW: The above is about dataset names. However if you want to fix page datasets, just use &SYSNAME in your IEASYSxx member or separate IEASYSxx members (added to IEASYS00, which is mandatory). The HLQ is not really important. It can be PAGE or SYS1 or WHATEVER (assuming MCAT). HTH -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
Even when not sharing master catalogs, using PAGE. Allows you to define them on a system different from the ultimate using system. I doubt any modern systems will ever reach the point where all PAGE space is exhausted and define from different system and add to stalled system would help, but such things did happen in the past > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Mark Jacobs > Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 10:10 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > For historical reasons most of our systems don't share MCATS. So I > misremembered and there's nothing really special about specific HLQs for page > dataset names, correct? > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furld > efense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flook > up%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com__%3B!!JmP > EgBY0HMszNaDT!pAWO1c7mmDn_QwSQvW47zNtqLZjxXFmAjQSiQbQ3RDt1 > C5cK5ibODjyit4YTrG- > 8oe1bcIP7jvYVdte7lA468xSU5bS2yHTD%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40 > WSU.EDU%7C4f71da5c5bef4c7bc66808dc299a7403%7Cb52be471f7f147b > 4a8790c799bb53db5%7C0%7C0%7C638430990552642856%7CUnknown > %7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha > WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SMKdbO8kleP4gFxXmiDfO > K80KFMCb6duVno3%2FCuj3Sw%3D&reserved=0 > > > On Friday, February 9th, 2024 at 1:02 PM, Gibney, Dave > <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > You would be better served with PAGE.&SYSNAME because you can have > > them cataloged in multiple catalogs > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > > Behalf Of Mark Jacobs > > > Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 8:54 AM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names > > > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > > > > > Yes, we're currently using the value of &SYSNAME as the HLQ for the > > > page datasets. I was wondering if there's any special powers > > > available for the HLQ of > > > SYS1 or PAGE. > > > > > > Mark Jacobs > > > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > > > > > GPG Public Key - > > > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fur > > > > ldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fnam12.safelinks.protection.outl > o > > > > ok.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps*3A*2F*2Furld__%3BJSUl!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT > !pAWO > > > 1c7mmDn_QwSQvW47zNtqLZjxXFmAjQSiQbQ3RDt1C5cK5ibODjyit4YTrG- > 8oe1bcIP7 > > > > jvYVdte7lA468xSU5SnIrJ2R%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.EDU% > 7C4f71da > > > > 5c5bef4c7bc66808dc299a7403%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c799bb53db5 > %7C0%7C > > > > 0%7C638430990552652888%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4 > wLjAwMDAiL > > > > CJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdat > a=Ax% > > > > 2BhKaz6VuuTKnu%2BQzH9%2BNDg7prLVepqimhgyKCLBfk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > efense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flook > > > > up%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com__%3B!!JmP > > > EgBY0HMszNaDT!t2r_0zpttnfKKQdF472QCXfSkUBWgKXVU3L-a- > > > 1YJwiUy65DMx3HtormAYh2EY3aX0F9VcNH16OYsxw3H3kVU0hI- > > > > iiAPmFq%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.EDU%7Cffd88af4468a48 > > > > 1ba7ea08dc298fd340%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c799bb53db5%7C0%7C > > > > 0%7C638430944905529551%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4 > > > > wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C > > > > %7C%7C&sdata=hZw%2FWdCJeYltXnhh6UHn51SVT%2BarWsgBUwFYZu2vZv > > > Y%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > On Friday, February 9th, 2024 at 10:16 AM, David Elliot > > > 05829bddcbe4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: > > > > > > > Are you talking about choosing your own HLQ for page datasets? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 2:54 PM Mark Jacobs < > > > > 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my > > > > > recollection that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have > > > > > special powers as relating to systems programmer type management > activities. > > > >
Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
Experience shows me that this is also possible for VSAM ICSF key stores and VSAM RACF databases. In practice it apples to any VSAM data set I think. However, it may be designed for those cases noted. I think any IDCAMS alteration of the VSAM object (e.g. ALTER NEWNAME) must be performed through the catalog that actually owns the object. The entries in non-owning catalogs can be used for access only. Lennie Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https: //rsclweb.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (CIO GS&S - Core Infrastructure & IT Operations ) Sent: 09 February 2024 16:07 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names Classification: Public Certainly as far as catalog entries go, page datasets have some super powers, like SYS1. From experience, the catalog that the page datasets (and others) were originally defined in has no bearing on the catalog currently in use. From the DEFINE CLUSTER RECATALOG manual entry (though I see what appears to be an editorial side note is still included as text even in the 3.1 manual 😊). RECATALOG Recreates the catalog entries if valid VVDS entries are found on the primary VVDS volume. If they are not, the command ends. When recataloging entries (including zFS files) with indirect volsers, the VVDS on the substituted volser must contain a valid NVRs or VVRs that match the entry name. Catalog entries can be re-created only in the catalog specified in the VVR except for entries that are swap space, page space, or SYS1 data sets. Change this to Catalog entries can be re-created only in the catalog specified in the VVR except for entries that are swap space, page space, SYS1 data sets or single volume zFS VSAM Linear data sets with an indirect volume serial. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Elliot Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names [Some people who received this message don't often get email from 05829bddcbe4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] *** This email is from an external source - be careful of attachments and links. Please report suspicious emails *** Are you talking about choosing your own HLQ for page datasets? On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 2:54 PM Mark Jacobs < 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my > recollection that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special > powers as relating to systems programmer type management activities. > Can anyone point me to the documentation if true, or tell me I'm incorrect if > I am? Thanks. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from > [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/), Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api/. > protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flookup%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40proton > mail.com&data=05%7C02%7CAndy.Styles%40lloydsbanking.com%7Ced61797b2ea3 > 44ef309808dc298256a3%7C3ded2960214a46ff8cf4611f125e2398%7C0%7C0%7C6384 > 30886983227735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jlNqycjuJx9RK%2 > BxmZhesNpzxnm52rIxLW8ON9tZLtRQ%3D&reserved=0 > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets plc. Registered office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 10399850. Scottish Widows Schroder Personal Wealth Limited. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 11722983. Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc and Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Scottish Widows Schroder Personal Wealth Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets Wertpapierh
Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
For historical reasons most of our systems don't share MCATS. So I misremembered and there's nothing really special about specific HLQs for page dataset names, correct? Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com On Friday, February 9th, 2024 at 1:02 PM, Gibney, Dave <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > You would be better served with PAGE.&SYSNAME because you can have them > cataloged in multiple catalogs > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > Behalf Of Mark Jacobs > > Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 8:54 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > > > Yes, we're currently using the value of &SYSNAME as the HLQ for the page > > datasets. I was wondering if there's any special powers available for the > > HLQ of > > SYS1 or PAGE. > > > > Mark Jacobs > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > > > GPG Public Key - > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furld > > efense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flook > > up%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com__%3B!!JmP > > EgBY0HMszNaDT!t2r_0zpttnfKKQdF472QCXfSkUBWgKXVU3L-a- > > 1YJwiUy65DMx3HtormAYh2EY3aX0F9VcNH16OYsxw3H3kVU0hI- > > iiAPmFq%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.EDU%7Cffd88af4468a48 > > 1ba7ea08dc298fd340%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c799bb53db5%7C0%7C > > 0%7C638430944905529551%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4 > > wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C > > %7C%7C&sdata=hZw%2FWdCJeYltXnhh6UHn51SVT%2BarWsgBUwFYZu2vZv > > Y%3D&reserved=0 > > > > On Friday, February 9th, 2024 at 10:16 AM, David Elliot > > 05829bddcbe4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: > > > > > Are you talking about choosing your own HLQ for page datasets? > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 2:54 PM Mark Jacobs < > > > 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my > > > > recollection that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special > > > > powers as relating to systems programmer type management activities. > > > > Can anyone point me to the documentation if true, or tell me I'm > > > > incorrect > > > > if I am? Thanks. > > > > > > > > Mark Jacobs > > > > > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > > > > > > > GPG Public Key - > > > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fur > > > > ldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flo > > okup > > > > %3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com__%3B!!JmPEg > > BY0HMs > > > > > > zNaDT!t2r_0zpttnfKKQdF472QCXfSkUBWgKXVU3L-a- > > > > 1YJwiUy65DMx3HtormAYh2EY > > > > 3aX0F9VcNH16OYsxw3H3kVU0hI- > > > > iiAPmFq%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.ED > > > > U%7Cffd88af4468a481ba7ea08dc298fd340%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c > > 799bb53 > > > > db5%7C0%7C0%7C638430944905538872%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d > > 8eyJWIjoiMC4 > > > > wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C > > %7C%7C > > > > &sdata=nlRtWaCJo9V0CfJfEJcZ%2FpEQaZC8ilrBH0p4ZQZNoKY%3D&reserved > > =0 > > > > > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > > > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > > to > > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
You would be better served with PAGE.&SYSNAME because you can have them cataloged in multiple catalogs > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Mark Jacobs > Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 8:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > Yes, we're currently using the value of &SYSNAME as the HLQ for the page > datasets. I was wondering if there's any special powers available for the HLQ > of > SYS1 or PAGE. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furld > efense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flook > up%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com__%3B!!JmP > EgBY0HMszNaDT!t2r_0zpttnfKKQdF472QCXfSkUBWgKXVU3L-a- > 1YJwiUy65DMx3HtormAYh2EY3aX0F9VcNH16OYsxw3H3kVU0hI- > iiAPmFq%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.EDU%7Cffd88af4468a48 > 1ba7ea08dc298fd340%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c799bb53db5%7C0%7C > 0%7C638430944905529551%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4 > wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C > %7C%7C&sdata=hZw%2FWdCJeYltXnhh6UHn51SVT%2BarWsgBUwFYZu2vZv > Y%3D&reserved=0 > > > On Friday, February 9th, 2024 at 10:16 AM, David Elliot > <05829bddcbe4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Are you talking about choosing your own HLQ for page datasets? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 2:54 PM Mark Jacobs < > > 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my > > > recollection that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special > > > powers as relating to systems programmer type management activities. > > > Can anyone point me to the documentation if true, or tell me I'm incorrect > if I am? Thanks. > > > > > > Mark Jacobs > > > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > > > > > GPG Public Key - > > > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fur > > > > ldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flo > okup > > > > %3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com__%3B!!JmPEg > BY0HMs > > > zNaDT!t2r_0zpttnfKKQdF472QCXfSkUBWgKXVU3L-a- > 1YJwiUy65DMx3HtormAYh2EY > > > 3aX0F9VcNH16OYsxw3H3kVU0hI- > iiAPmFq%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.ED > > > > U%7Cffd88af4468a481ba7ea08dc298fd340%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c > 799bb53 > > > > db5%7C0%7C0%7C638430944905538872%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d > 8eyJWIjoiMC4 > > > > wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C > %7C%7C > > > > &sdata=nlRtWaCJo9V0CfJfEJcZ%2FpEQaZC8ilrBH0p4ZQZNoKY%3D&reserved > =0 > > > > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
Yes, we're currently using the value of &SYSNAME as the HLQ for the page datasets. I was wondering if there's any special powers available for the HLQ of SYS1 or PAGE. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com On Friday, February 9th, 2024 at 10:16 AM, David Elliot <05829bddcbe4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Are you talking about choosing your own HLQ for page datasets? > > > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 2:54 PM Mark Jacobs < > 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my recollection > > that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special powers as relating to > > systems programmer type management activities. Can anyone point me to the > > documentation if true, or tell me I'm incorrect if I am? Thanks. > > > > Mark Jacobs > > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted > > email. > > > > GPG Public Key - > > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
Classification: Public Certainly as far as catalog entries go, page datasets have some super powers, like SYS1. From experience, the catalog that the page datasets (and others) were originally defined in has no bearing on the catalog currently in use. From the DEFINE CLUSTER RECATALOG manual entry (though I see what appears to be an editorial side note is still included as text even in the 3.1 manual 😊). RECATALOG Recreates the catalog entries if valid VVDS entries are found on the primary VVDS volume. If they are not, the command ends. When recataloging entries (including zFS files) with indirect volsers, the VVDS on the substituted volser must contain a valid NVRs or VVRs that match the entry name. Catalog entries can be re-created only in the catalog specified in the VVR except for entries that are swap space, page space, or SYS1 data sets. Change this to Catalog entries can be re-created only in the catalog specified in the VVR except for entries that are swap space, page space, SYS1 data sets or single volume zFS VSAM Linear data sets with an indirect volume serial. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Elliot Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names [Some people who received this message don't often get email from 05829bddcbe4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] *** This email is from an external source - be careful of attachments and links. Please report suspicious emails *** Are you talking about choosing your own HLQ for page datasets? On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 2:54 PM Mark Jacobs < 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my > recollection that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special > powers as relating to systems programmer type management activities. > Can anyone point me to the documentation if true, or tell me I'm incorrect if > I am? Thanks. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from > [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/), Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api/. > protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flookup%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40proton > mail.com&data=05%7C02%7CAndy.Styles%40lloydsbanking.com%7Ced61797b2ea3 > 44ef309808dc298256a3%7C3ded2960214a46ff8cf4611f125e2398%7C0%7C0%7C6384 > 30886983227735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jlNqycjuJx9RK%2 > BxmZhesNpzxnm52rIxLW8ON9tZLtRQ%3D&reserved=0 > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets plc. Registered office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 10399850. Scottish Widows Schroder Personal Wealth Limited. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 11722983. Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc and Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Scottish Widows Schroder Personal Wealth Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets Wertpapierhandelsbank GmbH is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets plc. Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets Wertpapierhandelsbank GmbH has its registered office at Thurn-und-Taxis Platz 6, 60313 Frankfurt, Germany. The company is registered with the Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main, HRB 111650. Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets Wertpapierhandelsbank GmbH is supervised by the Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-
Re: HLQ of Page Dataset Names
Are you talking about choosing your own HLQ for page datasets? On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 2:54 PM Mark Jacobs < 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my recollection > that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special powers as relating to > systems programmer type management activities. Can anyone point me to the > documentation if true, or tell me I'm incorrect if I am? Thanks. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted > email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
HLQ of Page Dataset Names
I seem to recall, but can't find anything that confirms my recollection that certain HLQs such as SYS1 and PAGE have special powers as relating to systems programmer type management activities. Can anyone point me to the documentation if true, or tell me I'm incorrect if I am? Thanks. Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
