Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-23 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/21/2013 09:46 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
 Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.
 
 
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html
 
 By Alistair Barr
 SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that no one ever got
 fired for buying IBM is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold
 standard in computing services for decades.
 
 But IBM faces an unlikely challenger in Amazon.com Inc(NSQ:AMZN), the
 e-commerce retail giant that is becoming a force in the booming business of
 cloud computing, even winning backing from America's top spy agency.
 
 After years of being dismissed as a supplier of online computer services to
 startups and small businesses, Amazon Web Services (AWS) beat out
 International Business Machines(NYS:IBM) this year to snag a $600 million
 contract with the Central Intelligence Agency.
 
 IBM has successfully appealed its loss in the contest, stalling it for now.
 But the episode highlights how Amazon is evolving from an online retailer
 into a competitive provider of information technology and services to big
 companies, and government bodies.
 
 
 
 IBM bought SoftLayer Technologies, a rival to AWS, for $2 billion in June.
 That could help it when the CIA comes calling again, said Bill Moran at Ptak
 Associates.
 
 
 Lizette
 

If one were into wild conspiracy theories, then obviously the government
spy agencies are trying to encourage expansion of the Amazon cloud
services because they believe they will be able monitor everyone else's
cloud activities more easily if they are managed by Amazon rather than IBM.

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Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
 If one were into wild conspiracy theories, then obviously the government
 spy agencies are trying to encourage expansion of the Amazon cloud
 services because they believe they will be able monitor everyone else's
 cloud activities more easily if they are managed by Amazon rather than IBM.

a different conspiracy theory ... privatizing gov. intelligence by
for-profit companies

the head of IBM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_V._Gerstner,_Jr.
leaves and becomes chairman of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
which then does private equity buyout of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton

Spies Like Us
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

from above:

Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent of
the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than half of
the available manpower.

... snip ...

How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington

with for-profit companies prevasive presence in the intelligence world,
there has been instances of levaging the infrastructures for economic 
industrial espionage (aka 70% of gov. intelligence is currently
for-profit companies).

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IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.



http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html

By Alistair Barr
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that no one ever got
fired for buying IBM is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold
standard in computing services for decades.

But IBM faces an unlikely challenger in Amazon.com Inc(NSQ:AMZN), the
e-commerce retail giant that is becoming a force in the booming business of
cloud computing, even winning backing from America's top spy agency.

After years of being dismissed as a supplier of online computer services to
startups and small businesses, Amazon Web Services (AWS) beat out
International Business Machines(NYS:IBM) this year to snag a $600 million
contract with the Central Intelligence Agency.

IBM has successfully appealed its loss in the contest, stalling it for now.
But the episode highlights how Amazon is evolving from an online retailer
into a competitive provider of information technology and services to big
companies, and government bodies.



IBM bought SoftLayer Technologies, a rival to AWS, for $2 billion in June.
That could help it when the CIA comes calling again, said Bill Moran at Ptak
Associates.


Lizette

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Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Scott Ford
Lizette,

Sounds like IBM is expanding their business. Not a bad thing, especially in 
this economy.

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD

'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'


On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.
 
 
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html
 
 By Alistair Barr
 SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that no one ever got
 fired for buying IBM is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold
 standard in computing services for decades.
 
 But IBM faces an unlikely challenger in Amazon.com Inc(NSQ:AMZN), the
 e-commerce retail giant that is becoming a force in the booming business of
 cloud computing, even winning backing from America's top spy agency.
 
 After years of being dismissed as a supplier of online computer services to
 startups and small businesses, Amazon Web Services (AWS) beat out
 International Business Machines(NYS:IBM) this year to snag a $600 million
 contract with the Central Intelligence Agency.
 
 IBM has successfully appealed its loss in the contest, stalling it for now.
 But the episode highlights how Amazon is evolving from an online retailer
 into a competitive provider of information technology and services to big
 companies, and government bodies.
 
 
 
 IBM bought SoftLayer Technologies, a rival to AWS, for $2 billion in June.
 That could help it when the CIA comes calling again, said Bill Moran at Ptak
 Associates.
 
 
 Lizette
 
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Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Shriver, Gregory A
Very interesting article.  About a year ago I read that Amazon's profit margins 
on AWS were north of 40% as compared to 2% for their etailing biz.  If you were 
Amazon,which portion of the business would be most aggresively trying to grow?

Anyone who does not think that Amazon is a major IT player is kidding 
themselves.


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From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
Date: 07/21/2013 10:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud


Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.



http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html

By Alistair Barr
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that no one ever got
fired for buying IBM is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold
standard in computing services for decades.

But IBM faces an unlikely challenger in Amazon.com Inc(NSQ:AMZN), the
e-commerce retail giant that is becoming a force in the booming business of
cloud computing, even winning backing from America's top spy agency.

After years of being dismissed as a supplier of online computer services to
startups and small businesses, Amazon Web Services (AWS) beat out
International Business Machines(NYS:IBM) this year to snag a $600 million
contract with the Central Intelligence Agency.

IBM has successfully appealed its loss in the contest, stalling it for now.
But the episode highlights how Amazon is evolving from an online retailer
into a competitive provider of information technology and services to big
companies, and government bodies.



IBM bought SoftLayer Technologies, a rival to AWS, for $2 billion in June.
That could help it when the CIA comes calling again, said Bill Moran at Ptak
Associates.


Lizette

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