Re: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-02 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 11:39 AM PINION, RICHARD W.
 wrote:
>
> // JOB (Y),RPINION,CLASS=2,MSGCLASS=O, 
> JOB17827
> //  NOTIFY=,COND=(0,LT),REGION=128M
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - 
> (Y),RPINION,CLASS=2,MSGCLASS=O,NOTIFY=ZZ,COND=(0,LT),REGION=128M
> //BACK1   EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M,CMWA=8190K'
>
> CPU: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.68 SECSRB: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.03 SEC
> VIRT:  8352K  SYS:   300K  EXT:4K  SYS:17476K
> ATB- REAL:  1056K  SLOTS: 0K
>  VIRT- ALLOC:  13M SHRD:   0M
>
VIRT:  8352K EXT:4K
Looks like the parm is limiting use to 8M.
Instead of REGION=nM, you might try REGIONX=(24K,31M,64G)

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Re: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-02 Thread Allan Staller
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1) I run all if my batch jobs with a region of 256M. I suggest that (at least 
in this particular case ) the you do the same.
2) last I heard IEBCOPY does a conditional getmain for 1.5M, so work=8M is an 
increase
3) In conjunction with the region increase, increase work= to 32M (or even 
higher if required)

HTH,


IEB1011E AVAILABLE STORAGE (4K) IS TOO SMALL.  ADD 7779K MORE BYTES TO WORK 
SIZE.

And this is the EXEC statement for the IEBCOPY.

EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M'

Our below the line private area is about 8.5 Meg.  I have REGION=32M on the job
statement.

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Re: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-01 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
// JOB (Y),RPINION,CLASS=2,MSGCLASS=O, JOB17827 

//  NOTIFY=,COND=(0,LT),REGION=128M  
 
IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - 
(Y),RPINION,CLASS=2,MSGCLASS=O,NOTIFY=ZZ,COND=(0,LT),REGION=128M
//BACK1   EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M,CMWA=8190K'
 

CPU: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.68 SECSRB: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.03 SEC
VIRT:  8352K  SYS:   300K  EXT:4K  SYS:17476K   
ATB- REAL:  1056K  SLOTS: 0K
 VIRT- ALLOC:  13M SHRD:   0M   

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On the step completion message, what are your memory usage?

On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:09 AM Steve Smith  wrote:
>
> There's no reason to concatenate the unload files, just do two COPY 
> operations (which can be in the same step, in case that's not obvious).
>
> REGION=32M, really?  This isn't 1990.  How about 1000M?
>
> sas
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:54 AM PINION, RICHARD W. 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > We are running z/OS 2.2 on z15.  I am having a problem selectively 
> > unloading a very large PDS/E, over 2,000,000 tracks, and with 
> > several thousand members.  The SYSIN to IEBCOPY has 174,000 SELECT 
> > statements.  We are getting
> >
> > IEB1011E AVAILABLE STORAGE (4K) IS TOO SMALL.  ADD 7779K MORE BYTES 
> > TO WORK SIZE.
> >
> > And this is the EXEC statement for the IEBCOPY.
> >
> > EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M'
> >
> > Our below the line private area is about 8.5 Meg.  I have REGION=32M 
> > on the job statement.
> >
> > I have tried various combinations of REGION=xxxM on the job 
> > statement, and increases in the WORK parm value.  I cannot get around the 
> > error.
> >
> > One thing I am trying now is to use two steps, assigning ½ of the 
> > SELECT statements to the first step, and the remainder to the second 
> > step.  I am creating two separate unload datasets using this method.  
> > I suspect that one cannot concatenate IEBCOPY UNLOAD datasets when 
> > reloading the PDS/E.
> >
> >
>
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Re: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-01 Thread Mike Schwab
On the step completion message, what are your memory usage?

On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:09 AM Steve Smith  wrote:
>
> There's no reason to concatenate the unload files, just do two COPY
> operations (which can be in the same step, in case that's not obvious).
>
> REGION=32M, really?  This isn't 1990.  How about 1000M?
>
> sas
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:54 AM PINION, RICHARD W. 
> wrote:
>
> > We are running z/OS 2.2 on z15.  I am having a problem selectively
> > unloading a very large
> > PDS/E, over 2,000,000 tracks, and with several thousand members.  The
> > SYSIN to IEBCOPY
> > has 174,000 SELECT statements.  We are getting
> >
> > IEB1011E AVAILABLE STORAGE (4K) IS TOO SMALL.  ADD 7779K MORE BYTES TO
> > WORK SIZE.
> >
> > And this is the EXEC statement for the IEBCOPY.
> >
> > EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M'
> >
> > Our below the line private area is about 8.5 Meg.  I have REGION=32M on
> > the job
> > statement.
> >
> > I have tried various combinations of REGION=xxxM on the job statement, and
> > increases in the WORK parm value.  I cannot get around the error.
> >
> > One thing I am trying now is to use two steps, assigning ½ of the SELECT
> > statements
> > to the first step, and the remainder to the second step.  I am creating
> > two separate
> > unload datasets using this method.  I suspect that one cannot concatenate
> > IEBCOPY
> > UNLOAD datasets when reloading the PDS/E.
> >
> >
>
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Re: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I've never selectively included that many member, but maybe you can 
exclude members that you do not want to copy?


are you using a copymod statement ?

maybe specify CMWA=8190K and a region size greater that 32M?

size is another parm option SIZE=nK or nM

Carmen

On 9/1/2021 10:30 AM, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote:

Indeed I did.  And, it had no effect.  As for SAS's comment for using 
REGION=1000M, while I didn't go that high, increasing REGION on the job 
statement had no effect either.

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Subject: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

We are running z/OS 2.2 on z15.  I am having a problem selectively unloading a 
very large PDS/E, over 2,000,000 tracks, and with several thousand members.  
The SYSIN to IEBCOPY has 174,000 SELECT statements.  We are getting

IEB1011E AVAILABLE STORAGE (4K) IS TOO SMALL.  ADD 7779K MORE BYTES TO WORK 
SIZE.

And this is the EXEC statement for the IEBCOPY.

EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M'

Our below the line private area is about 8.5 Meg.  I have REGION=32M on the job 
statement.

I have tried various combinations of REGION=xxxM on the job statement, and 
increases in the WORK parm value.  I cannot get around the error.

One thing I am trying now is to use two steps, assigning ½ of the SELECT 
statements to the first step, and the remainder to the second step.  I am 
creating two separate unload datasets using this method.  I suspect that one 
cannot concatenate IEBCOPY UNLOAD datasets when reloading the PDS/E.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-01 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Indeed I did.  And, it had no effect.  As for SAS's comment for using 
REGION=1000M, while I didn't go that high, increasing REGION on the job 
statement had no effect either.  

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Have you looked at using the spill data sets on SYSUT3 and SYSUT4?

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Subject: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

We are running z/OS 2.2 on z15.  I am having a problem selectively unloading a 
very large PDS/E, over 2,000,000 tracks, and with several thousand members.  
The SYSIN to IEBCOPY has 174,000 SELECT statements.  We are getting

IEB1011E AVAILABLE STORAGE (4K) IS TOO SMALL.  ADD 7779K MORE BYTES TO WORK 
SIZE.

And this is the EXEC statement for the IEBCOPY.

EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M'

Our below the line private area is about 8.5 Meg.  I have REGION=32M on the job 
statement.

I have tried various combinations of REGION=xxxM on the job statement, and 
increases in the WORK parm value.  I cannot get around the error.

One thing I am trying now is to use two steps, assigning ½ of the SELECT 
statements to the first step, and the remainder to the second step.  I am 
creating two separate unload datasets using this method.  I suspect that one 
cannot concatenate IEBCOPY UNLOAD datasets when reloading the PDS/E.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-01 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Have you looked at using the spill data sets on SYSUT3 and SYSUT4?

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PINION, RICHARD W.
Sent: 01 September 2021 15:54
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Subject: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

We are running z/OS 2.2 on z15.  I am having a problem selectively unloading
a very large PDS/E, over 2,000,000 tracks, and with several thousand
members.  The SYSIN to IEBCOPY has 174,000 SELECT statements.  We are
getting

IEB1011E AVAILABLE STORAGE (4K) IS TOO SMALL.  ADD 7779K MORE BYTES TO WORK
SIZE.

And this is the EXEC statement for the IEBCOPY.

EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M'

Our below the line private area is about 8.5 Meg.  I have REGION=32M on the
job statement.

I have tried various combinations of REGION=xxxM on the job statement, and
increases in the WORK parm value.  I cannot get around the error.

One thing I am trying now is to use two steps, assigning ½ of the SELECT
statements to the first step, and the remainder to the second step.  I am
creating two separate unload datasets using this method.  I suspect that one
cannot concatenate IEBCOPY UNLOAD datasets when reloading the PDS/E.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-01 Thread Steve Smith
There's no reason to concatenate the unload files, just do two COPY
operations (which can be in the same step, in case that's not obvious).

REGION=32M, really?  This isn't 1990.  How about 1000M?

sas


On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:54 AM PINION, RICHARD W. 
wrote:

> We are running z/OS 2.2 on z15.  I am having a problem selectively
> unloading a very large
> PDS/E, over 2,000,000 tracks, and with several thousand members.  The
> SYSIN to IEBCOPY
> has 174,000 SELECT statements.  We are getting
>
> IEB1011E AVAILABLE STORAGE (4K) IS TOO SMALL.  ADD 7779K MORE BYTES TO
> WORK SIZE.
>
> And this is the EXEC statement for the IEBCOPY.
>
> EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M'
>
> Our below the line private area is about 8.5 Meg.  I have REGION=32M on
> the job
> statement.
>
> I have tried various combinations of REGION=xxxM on the job statement, and
> increases in the WORK parm value.  I cannot get around the error.
>
> One thing I am trying now is to use two steps, assigning ½ of the SELECT
> statements
> to the first step, and the remainder to the second step.  I am creating
> two separate
> unload datasets using this method.  I suspect that one cannot concatenate
> IEBCOPY
> UNLOAD datasets when reloading the PDS/E.
>
>

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IEBCOPY & PARM='WORK=xxMB'

2021-09-01 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
We are running z/OS 2.2 on z15.  I am having a problem selectively unloading a 
very large
PDS/E, over 2,000,000 tracks, and with several thousand members.  The SYSIN to 
IEBCOPY
has 174,000 SELECT statements.  We are getting

IEB1011E AVAILABLE STORAGE (4K) IS TOO SMALL.  ADD 7779K MORE BYTES TO WORK 
SIZE.

And this is the EXEC statement for the IEBCOPY.

EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,PARM='WORK=8M'

Our below the line private area is about 8.5 Meg.  I have REGION=32M on the job
statement.

I have tried various combinations of REGION=xxxM on the job statement, and
increases in the WORK parm value.  I cannot get around the error.

One thing I am trying now is to use two steps, assigning ½ of the SELECT 
statements
to the first step, and the remainder to the second step.  I am creating two 
separate
unload datasets using this method.  I suspect that one cannot concatenate 
IEBCOPY
UNLOAD datasets when reloading the PDS/E.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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