Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Edward Finnell
If you have PDS(File182 on CBT) EAV support is included in LISTV
 
Update  8.6.14.4:   
  

EAV support for PDSE data sets allocated in the  cylinder-managed   
  
space.  This mod thanks to John Hamlet from  SAS.   
  

Update  8.6.14.1:   
  

LISTV: Expand cylinder display fields (largest, total, and primary) to  7   
 
characters and identify 3390-A  volumes.  This change was made  to  
   
accommodate 1TB EAV  drives.
  



In a message dated 7/19/2017 6:30:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:

I was  trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that
can  query on device report saying that it is EAV  volume



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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Barry Merrill
Both DCOLLECT and SMF have flags for EAV volumes,
and programs like MXG Software know about them.

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I was trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that can 
query on device report saying that it is EAV volume

On 19-Jul-2017 3:38 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> What problem are you trying to solve?
>
> most shops use a stand set of definitions for dasd which comes with 
> specific setting for size of volume.
>
> So if you see it is a 3390 Mod3 you know it will be 3339 cylinders.
> Though you could make  it different, this is what most will recognize 
> as how many cylinders are on a Mod3.
>
> With EAV the type of volume definition is slightly different and IBM 
> has suggested 3390 ModA (3390-A) for EAV.
>
> Then you would specify how large it is (typically larger than a Mod54)
>
> You also need to see that the Mod-A uses a different sizing - it can 
> be up to 255TB in size for one volume
>
> If you do an internet search on
>
> IBM 3390-A EAV
>
> You might find this Share presentation that might help
>
> SHARE 9941 Planning for EAV Migration
>
> Or this
>
> IBM Redbooks | DFSMS V1.10 and EAV Technical Guide
>
> Or this entry
>
> Extended address volumes for CKD - IBM
>
>
> They (and other presentations and links) should help you understand 
> the EAV
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Anderson
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:57 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Identify EAV volume
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series 
> > belongs
> to EAV
> > ?
> >
> > Any commands or macro which can help ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jake
> >
>
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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread John Eells

Jake Anderson wrote:

I was trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that
can query on device report saying that it is EAV volume



This field in the F4DSCB in the VTOC will tell you:

DS4DSCYL

Number of logical cylinders including alternates, if
any exist. Unsigned number. Set to X'FFFE' for
devices with more than 65,520 cylinders, indicating
that cylinder-managed space exists (DS4CYLMG is
set on) and extended attribute DSCBs, formats 8
and 9, are allowed.

LSPACE will retrieve the volume size in LSPDVOLI, or return the entire 
F4DSCB if you use the F4DSCB option, including DS4DSCYL.


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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread R.S.

How to identify EAV?
Just look - EAV is bigger.

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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Rob Scott
Jake

Issue UCBSCAN and get the device class extension (DCE) and then check for both 
the following :

UCBTBYT3/4 = x'200F' and DCEOBRDT = x'3E'

Rob

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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Identify EAV volume

I was trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that can 
query on device report saying that it is EAV volume

On 19-Jul-2017 3:38 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> What problem are you trying to solve?
>
> most shops use a stand set of definitions for dasd which comes with
> specific setting for size of volume.
>
> So if you see it is a 3390 Mod3 you know it will be 3339 cylinders.
> Though you could make  it different, this is what most will recognize
> as how many cylinders are on a Mod3.
>
> With EAV the type of volume definition is slightly different and IBM
> has suggested 3390 ModA (3390-A) for EAV.
>
> Then you would specify how large it is (typically larger than a Mod54)
>
> You also need to see that the Mod-A uses a different sizing - it can
> be up to 255TB in size for one volume
>
> If you do an internet search on
>
> IBM 3390-A EAV
>
> You might find this Share presentation that might help
>
> SHARE 9941 Planning for EAV Migration
>
> Or this
>
> IBM Redbooks | DFSMS V1.10 and EAV Technical Guide
>
> Or this entry
>
> Extended address volumes for CKD - IBM
>
>
> They (and other presentations and links) should help you understand
> the EAV
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Anderson
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:57 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Identify EAV volume
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series
> > belongs
> to EAV
> > ?
> >
> > Any commands or macro which can help ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jake
> >
>
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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Jake Anderson
I was trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that
can query on device report saying that it is EAV volume

On 19-Jul-2017 3:38 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> What problem are you trying to solve?
>
> most shops use a stand set of definitions for dasd which comes with
> specific setting for size of volume.
>
> So if you see it is a 3390 Mod3 you know it will be 3339 cylinders.
> Though you could make  it different, this is what most will recognize as
> how many cylinders are on a Mod3.
>
> With EAV the type of volume definition is slightly different and IBM has
> suggested 3390 ModA (3390-A) for EAV.
>
> Then you would specify how large it is (typically larger than a Mod54)
>
> You also need to see that the Mod-A uses a different sizing - it can be up
> to 255TB in size for one volume
>
> If you do an internet search on
>
> IBM 3390-A EAV
>
> You might find this Share presentation that might help
>
> SHARE 9941 Planning for EAV Migration
>
> Or this
>
> IBM Redbooks | DFSMS V1.10 and EAV Technical Guide
>
> Or this entry
>
> Extended address volumes for CKD - IBM
>
>
> They (and other presentations and links) should help you understand the EAV
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Jake Anderson
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:57 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Identify EAV volume
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series belongs
> to EAV
> > ?
> >
> > Any commands or macro which can help ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jake
> >
>
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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
What problem are you trying to solve?

most shops use a stand set of definitions for dasd which comes with specific 
setting for size of volume.

So if you see it is a 3390 Mod3 you know it will be 3339 cylinders.  Though you 
could make  it different, this is what most will recognize as how many 
cylinders are on a Mod3.

With EAV the type of volume definition is slightly different and IBM has 
suggested 3390 ModA (3390-A) for EAV.

Then you would specify how large it is (typically larger than a Mod54)

You also need to see that the Mod-A uses a different sizing - it can be up to 
255TB in size for one volume

If you do an internet search on 

IBM 3390-A EAV 

You might find this Share presentation that might help

SHARE 9941 Planning for EAV Migration

Or this

IBM Redbooks | DFSMS V1.10 and EAV Technical Guide

Or this entry

Extended address volumes for CKD - IBM


They (and other presentations and links) should help you understand the EAV

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Jake Anderson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:57 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Identify EAV volume
> 
> Hi
> 
> Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series belongs to EAV
> ?
> 
> Any commands or macro which can help ?
> 
> Regards
> Jake
> 

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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Edward Finnell
DEVSERV QDASD,?
 
or
 
DS QD,?
 
Should get you started.
 
 
In a message dated 7/19/2017 3:57:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:

Is there  any command to identify if a particular volume series belongs to
EAV  ?

Any commands or macro which can help  ?



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Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi

Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series belongs to
EAV ?

Any commands or macro which can help ?

Regards
Jake

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