InfoCenter TOS?
In: http://www.ibm.com/legal/us/en/ Terms of use I read: ... IBM grants you non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited permission to access and display the Web pages within this site, solely on your computer and for your personal, non-commercial use of this Web site. Does personal, non-commercial use prohibit my using the Web pages in connection with my employment? Does your computer mean a computer to which I have legal title, or any computer that my employer or perhaps a public library allows me to use? If I format the pages on a corporate server and display them on a thin client on my desk, does this conform to the TOS? What's the definition of your and personal? IBM Legal ought to jump in. We're just being ultra-careful, but of course we can exercise discretion concerning ordinary use or Lawyers do that sort of stuff all the time; it doesn't mean anything; it's just CYA isn't very comforting. Am I in violation of the TOS by quoting the excerpt above, or does Fair Use excuse me? Perhaps I should submit a RCF. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: InfoCenter TOS?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: In: http://www.ibm.com/legal/us/en/ Terms of use I read: ... IBM grants you non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited permission to access and display the Web pages within this site, solely on your computer and for your personal, non-commercial use of this Web site. Does personal, non-commercial use prohibit my using the Web pages in connection with my employment? Does your computer mean a computer to which I have legal title, or any computer that my employer or perhaps a public library allows me to use? If I format the pages on a corporate server and display them on a thin client on my desk, does this conform to the TOS? What's the definition of your and personal? IBM Legal ought to jump in. We're just being ultra-careful, but of course we can exercise discretion concerning ordinary use or Lawyers do that sort of stuff all the time; it doesn't mean anything; it's just CYA isn't very comforting. Am I in violation of the TOS by quoting the excerpt above, or does Fair Use excuse me? Perhaps I should submit a RCF. -- gil I think you are a bit tongue-in-cheek, but in today's litigious world, who knows? But one thing that I relatively new and which I despise is that, unlike with the old BookManager and PDF, the above definitely means that I __CANNOT__ make a copy of the site for off-line perusal. So if I have no Internet connectivity, I have no documentation. Nor can I make hard copy of the pages. Well, not without violating copyright. There are reasons why I am a member of the FSF and use GNU/Linux. -- The temperature of the aqueous content of an unremittingly ogled culinary vessel will not achieve 100 degrees on the Celsius scale. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: InfoCenter TOS?
It's a mobile world! Most of the manuals have .epub versions that do download. There's converters for epub to pdf. Think I use CompuClever. In a message dated 10/20/2014 3:37:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, john.archie.mck...@gmail.com writes: But one thing that I relatively new and which I despise is that, unlike with the old BookManager and PDF, the above definitely means that I __CANNOT__ make a copy of the site for off-line perusal. So if I have no Internet connectivity, I have no documentation. Nor can I make hard copy of the pages. Well, not without violating copyright. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: InfoCenter TOS?
John McKown wrote: I think you are a bit tongue-in-cheek, but in today's litigious world, who knows? But one thing that I relatively new and which I despise is that, unlike with the old BookManager and PDF, the above definitely means that I __CANNOT__ make a copy of the site for off-line perusal. So if I have no Internet connectivity, I have no documentation. Nor can I make hard copy of the pages. Well, not without violating copyright. Actually, it is downloadable. If you click on IBM Softcopy on the Information Center's home page, it lists the collection's publication number. If you then click on the Quick Publications Center search link that is also on that page and then enter the publication's number and hit search it will list several versions that can be downloaded and installed. Bad thing about this is it looks like there's an update every quarter or so and each download is about 1200 MB or so. So much for diffs. I seem to recall the CICS explorer would download documentation updates. But I don't recall if it was smart enough to just pull the updated books only. I'm not sure what the newer IBM explorer does. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
