Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Beaver
Go pull the SMF 30's type 4 and 5 

Its all there


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Try parsing your syslog

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Initiator 16 alone

On Jul 27, 2016 11:13 PM, "Tom Marchant" < 
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:30:33 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote:
>
> >I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator.
> Is
> >there a way to determine ?
>
> Dr. Merrill gave you a clue, but I have a question.
> What do you mean by "A specific initiator"?
> Do you mean:
> 1. For example, initiator 16?
> 2. Class B initiator?
> 3. A particular iteration of one of the above? That is, an initiator 
> from the time it was started until it stopped.
> 4. Something else?
>
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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
Try parsing your syslog

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Initiator 16 alone

On Jul 27, 2016 11:13 PM, "Tom Marchant" < 
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:30:33 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote:
>
> >I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator.
> Is
> >there a way to determine ?
>
> Dr. Merrill gave you a clue, but I have a question.
> What do you mean by "A specific initiator"?
> Do you mean:
> 1. For example, initiator 16?
> 2. Class B initiator?
> 3. A particular iteration of one of the above? That is, an initiator 
> from the time it was started until it stopped.
> 4. Something else?
>
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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Lizette Koehler 
wrote:

> What jobclasses are assigned to 16? OR is it a WLM Init?
>

​I don't think that WLM initiators have names or numbers, do they?​


> Lizette
>
>


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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
What jobclasses are assigned to 16? OR is it a WLM Init?

Lizette


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> 
> Initiator 16 alone
> 
> On Jul 27, 2016 11:13 PM, "Tom Marchant" < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-
> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:30:33 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote:
> >
> > >I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator.
> > Is
> > >there a way to determine ?
> >
> > Dr. Merrill gave you a clue, but I have a question.
> > What do you mean by "A specific initiator"?
> > Do you mean:
> > 1. For example, initiator 16?
> > 2. Class B initiator?
> > 3. A particular iteration of one of the above? That is, an initiator
> > from the time it was started until it stopped.
> > 4. Something else?
> >
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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
So could you provide the reason for the question?  What are you trying to 
research or resolve?

Is the issue from a current issue (within a week)? Or past history (older than 
a week)?

The more details you provide, the better the answer will be.


SYSLOG Scans will be faster.
DAF (from CBTTAPE.ORG) may be helpful

Looking at the output from the job should tell you.

If you have an automation tool like CA OPS/MVS and the event is recent, you 
could OPSBROWSE to see the data.

Lizette

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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator. Is
> there a way to determine ?
> 
> Is that again an SMF report would tell ?
> 
> Jake
> 

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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread Jake Anderson
Initiator 16 alone

On Jul 27, 2016 11:13 PM, "Tom Marchant" <
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:30:33 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote:
>
> >I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator.
> Is
> >there a way to determine ?
>
> Dr. Merrill gave you a clue, but I have a question.
> What do you mean by "A specific initiator"?
> Do you mean:
> 1. For example, initiator 16?
> 2. Class B initiator?
> 3. A particular iteration of one of the above? That is, an initiator from
> the time it was started until it stopped.
> 4. Something else?
>
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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:30:33 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote:

>I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator. Is
>there a way to determine ?

Dr. Merrill gave you a clue, but I have a question.
What do you mean by "A specific initiator"?
Do you mean:
1. For example, initiator 16?
2. Class B initiator?
3. A particular iteration of one of the above? That is, an initiator from the 
time it was started until it stopped.
4. Something else?

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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread Barry Merrill
Ok, now that I know there is an appropriate SYSLOG message,
should I then add that MXG also can create an SMF record from
any SYSLOG message, as part of the 
MXG Tape Mount Monitor and SYSLOG Record SMF Recorder?

Barry

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On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Jake Anderson <justmainfra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific 
> Initiator. Is there a way to determine ?
>
> Is that again an SMF report would tell ?
>
> Jake
>

A
​s Doctor Merrill indicated, I don't think that "plain vanilla" SMF​ has this 
information. At my shop (no WLM initiators), I would scan the z/OS SYSLOG for 
the $HASP373 message and parse it. Seems a curious need to me.


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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Jake Anderson 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator. Is
> there a way to determine ?
>
> Is that again an SMF report would tell ?
>
> Jake
>

A
​s Doctor Merrill indicated, I don't think that "plain vanilla" SMF​ has
this information. At my shop (no WLM initiators), I would scan the z/OS
SYSLOG for the $HASP373 message and parse it. Seems a curious need to me.


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Re: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread Barry Merrill
MXG Softare, long ago, provided code for IEFU84 Exit to populate
the Initiator Name and Number into the SMF 30 subtype 1 record:


Change 22.136  The SMF Exit code to put Initiator Name and Init Number
IEFU84 if the PROGRAM field in the SMF 30 subtype 1 record that
Jun 24, 2004   was announced in Change 19.269 now exists in the member
   IEFU84, which is the JOB to assemble that SMF exit. Your
   System Programmer will need to install the exit for you,
   as it must be placed in an authorized load library, and
   he/she will want to examine this SMF exit code.
   MXG member VMAC30 already has the code in place and will
   now populate the variables INITNAME and INITNUM after you
   have installed the IEFU84 exit to add the data to SMF 30.
   But note that only "real" initiators have names/numbers;
   WLM-managed initiators will have blank initname and no
   value for initiator number.

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Subject: Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

Hello,

I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator. Is 
there a way to determine ?

Is that again an SMF report would tell ?

Jake

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Initiator - Identify the List of Jobs

2016-07-27 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello,

I am trying to fetch the List of Jobname that used a specific Initiator. Is
there a way to determine ?

Is that again an SMF report would tell ?

Jake

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