Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
Done.

Charles


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It appears that relatively few exits document their TCB vs SRB 
requirements. They should.

While I wouldn't bet that it would get done quickly, a RCF asking for that 
documentation for every exit in the installations exits book seems like a 
good first step.

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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
I shall do so.

Charles


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Subject: Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

It appears that relatively few exits document their TCB vs SRB 
requirements. They should.

While I wouldn't bet that it would get done quickly, a RCF asking for that 
documentation for every exit in the installations exits book seems like a 
good first step.

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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-04 Thread Peter Relson
It appears that relatively few exits document their TCB vs SRB 
requirements. They should.

While I wouldn't bet that it would get done quickly, a RCF asking for that 
documentation for every exit in the installations exits book seems like a 
good first step.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 May 2018 at 19:43, Charles Mills  wrote:

> When did SRBs come along? When dinosaurs roamed the earth?

Yes, roughly. From the very beginnings of MVS, aka "OS/VS2 Release 2",
which IIRC went GA in 1972.

Tony H.

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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Jim Mulder
  It is TCB mode only.


Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp. 
Poughkeepsie NY

Charles Mills  wrote on 05/02/2018 06:28:35 PM:

> From: Charles Mills 
> To: ibm-main@listserv.ua.edu
> Date: 05/02/2018 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)
> 
> CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT
> 
> Charles
> 
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> Which IBM exit is this Charles?
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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
I agree. Some of the exits are documented as TCB only; some as SRB or TCB. Some 
are documented as Primary; some as Primary or AR. There is no generic statement 
"if not specified otherwise, TCB and Primary." I suspect all of the 
pre-whenever-ARs-came-along are Primary only. It would be nice to say that. 
When did SRBs come along? When dinosaurs roamed the earth?

Charles


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I agree with Rob, it's likely TCB mode but this looks like IBM need a DOC 
update.

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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Dan D
I agree with Rob, it's likely TCB mode but this looks like IBM need a DOC 
update.

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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT

Charles


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Which IBM exit is this Charles? 

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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Dan D
Which IBM exit is this Charles?

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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
The exit vendor is of course IBM.

Unless you mean me.

Charles


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Subject: Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

Although TCB mode is very likely, I would double-check with the software exit 
vendor.

I would not want to assume anything when writing system software exits, 
especially as most of them are entered in supervisor state and PSW key 0-7.

Rob

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Subject: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

If, for a particular exit in MVS Installation Exits, the documentation is 
silent on whether the exit might be invoked in SRB mode, is it safe to assume 
TCB mode?

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Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Rob Scott
Although TCB mode is very likely, I would double-check with the software exit 
vendor.

I would not want to assume anything when writing system software exits, 
especially as most of them are entered in supervisor state and PSW key 0-7.

Rob

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Subject: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

If, for a particular exit in MVS Installation Exits, the documentation is 
silent on whether the exit might be invoked in SRB mode, is it safe to assume 
TCB mode?

Charles

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Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-01 Thread Charles Mills
If, for a particular exit in MVS Installation Exits, the documentation is
silent on whether the exit might be invoked in SRB mode, is it safe to
assume TCB mode?

Charles 

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