Re: Installing a new version of z/OS using z/OSMF

2023-05-25 Thread Keith Gooding
Hi Gadi.

At last someone (Marna) has answered your question.

Once you have z/OSMF set up installing the z/OS libraries and SMPE datasets is 
simple. It is called ‘adding a software instance’ and in this case it is 
created from a portable software instance which is like a glorified tar ball. 
You use the filters on the dialogue panels to list subsets of the datasets (eg 
all target libraries) and a modify function to systematically change the 
dataset attributes, such as HLQ and volume. It is very similar to the first 
part of the ISPF Serverpac install where you configure the software and run a 
job which creates the datasets and renames them as required. I used to install 
a server pack every 2 years and always had to relearn the commands to select 
datasets and change their attributes. With z/OSMF you do not have to do that.

In addition to the software in the Serverpac the PSI also contains the RIMLIBs 
as in previous server packs, and some workflows. If allowed you can leave some 
of these with their default names (of the form CB.ST25.*) 

The workflows include a documentation-only workflow and one or two 
corresponding to the ISPF post-install dialogue steps. You do not have to run 
those if you want to do the pre- and post-IPL steps ‘manually’.

I always used to order Db2 as a CBPDO because a server pack is such a BIg Thing 
and creates a sample Db2 system which I do not want. After my experiences with 
a z/os server pack I ordered my last Db2 as a server pack and just did the ‘add 
software instance’ part.

I should add that it is possible to create a Software Instance from your 
existing z/os system - essentially you tell z/osmf the name of the global zone 
and the associated target and dlib zones and it will work out the dataset names 
from the DDDEFs. I cannot remember whether it is possible to use that as a 
model for your 2.5 dataset names but in any case changing the names via the 
dialogue (ie changing eg CB.ST12345.SYS1.LINKLIB) is quite easy using the ‘mass 
change’ facility in the PSI dialogue.

Also my systems are fairly simple development systems. I have no experience of 
using this in a real production world although I would expect it to be similar 
to the ISPF dialogue method.

Keith Gooding

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> On 25 May 2023, at 19:03, Marna WALLE  wrote:
> Gadi,
> You can learn about the z/OSMF Software Management installation process here: 
>  https://www.ibm.com/support/z-content-solutions/serverpac-install-zosmf/
> 
> I would strongly recommend that you watch the short videos (under Multimedia 
> at the bottom)  to get a flavor of what it looks like in action.  Then do a 
> practice install with a sample package which you can acquire from the "Try 
> it" tab on that website.  
> 
> z/OS V2.3 (with z/OSMF active) is a fine driving system level for installing 
> z/OS V2.5, but as you mention, is longer supported.  Just make sure you 
> follow the driving system requirements documented in the z/OS V2.5 Planning 
> for Installation book.  You could also acquire the Customized Offerings 
> Driver (free driving system, orderable on Shopz), if you wanted to use a 
> supported driving system level that has z/OSMF already active on it.  
> 
> -Marna WALLE
> z/OS Install and Upgrade
> IBM Poughkkeepsie
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Re: Installing a new version of z/OS using z/OSMF

2023-05-25 Thread Marna WALLE
Gadi,
You can learn about the z/OSMF Software Management installation process here:  
https://www.ibm.com/support/z-content-solutions/serverpac-install-zosmf/

I would strongly recommend that you watch the short videos (under Multimedia at 
the bottom)  to get a flavor of what it looks like in action.  Then do a 
practice install with a sample package which you can acquire from the "Try it" 
tab on that website.  

z/OS V2.3 (with z/OSMF active) is a fine driving system level for installing 
z/OS V2.5, but as you mention, is longer supported.  Just make sure you follow 
the driving system requirements documented in the z/OS V2.5 Planning for 
Installation book.  You could also acquire the Customized Offerings Driver 
(free driving system, orderable on Shopz), if you wanted to use a supported 
driving system level that has z/OSMF already active on it.  

-Marna WALLE
z/OS Install and Upgrade
IBM Poughkkeepsie

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Re: Installing a new version of z/OS using z/OSMF

2023-05-25 Thread Art Gutowski
On Wed, 24 May 2023 11:37:25 +, Gadi Ben-Avi  wrote:

>Hi,
>I've been tasked with installing a new version of z/OS.
>The only way to do it these days is to use z/OSMF.
>
>I've done this many times using the ServerPac dialog, so I'm familiar with 
>that process.
>
>We are currently using z/OS v2.3 which is already unsupported, so IBM is not 
>really helping.
>
>Do you know of any resources that would help me with this?
>

It's not the only way.  You can still order and install a z/OS CBPDO.

Art Gutowski

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Installing a new version of z/OS using z/OSMF

2023-05-24 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi,
I've been tasked with installing a new version of z/OS.
The only way to do it these days is to use z/OSMF.

I've done this many times using the ServerPac dialog, so I'm familiar with that 
process.

We are currently using z/OS v2.3 which is already unsupported, so IBM is not 
really helping.

Do you know of any resources that would help me with this?

Thanks

Gadi



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