Is Lorem Ipsum a code hiding in plain sight [OT}

2014-08-18 Thread Charles Mills
Waaay OT but too strange and wonderful not to share. I am certain that there
are many here who will be fascinated by this.

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/08/lorem-ipsum-of-good-evil-google-china/ 

Charles 

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Re: Is Lorem Ipsum a code hiding in plain sight [OT}

2014-08-18 Thread John Gilmore
Latin occupies a peculiar position.  Microsoft Word does not, for
example, recognize its existence.  One cannot, that is, specify that a
document or a quotation in a document is written in latin.

Terabytes of latin text are, however, readily available on the net;
and bilingual text has been plentiful for generations.  Examples are
the Loeb Classical Library, which contains the latin text and English
translations of it for most classical authors, the Budé collection,
which instead contains latin text and French translations, etc., etc.

Google could improve its translations of Latin text readily if it
wished or, perhaps better, judged that it needed to do so.

The largerv q

On 8/18/14, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
 Waaay OT but too strange and wonderful not to share. I am certain that
 there
 are many here who will be fascinated by this.

 http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/08/lorem-ipsum-of-good-evil-google-china/

 Charles

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Re: Is Lorem Ipsum a code hiding in plain sight [OT}

2014-08-18 Thread Steve Comstock

On 8/18/2014 1:40 AM, Charles Mills wrote:

Waaay OT but too strange and wonderful not to share. I am certain that there
are many here who will be fascinated by this.

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/08/lorem-ipsum-of-good-evil-google-china/

Charles

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That _is_ interesting. Thanks.

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Is Lorem Ipsum a code hiding in plain sight [OT}

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:40:52 +0200, Charles Mills wrote:

Waaay OT but too strange and wonderful not to share. I am certain that there
are many here who will be fascinated by this.

 http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/08/lorem-ipsum-of-good-evil-google-china/
 
Where I read:

“Translate [is] designed to be able to evolve and to learn from crowd-sourced 
input to reflect adaptations in language use over time,” Kraeh3n said. “Someone 
out there learned to game that ability and use an obscure piece of text no one 
in their right mind would ever type in to create totally random alternate 
meanings that could, potentially, be used to transmit messages covertly.”

I'll conjecture, perhaps more plausibly, that lorem ipsum is often used as
replacement text for redacted sensitive matter, leading Google's Rosetta
Stone program to make suggestive guesses.

-- gil

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