Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
On Tue, 2014-12-23 at 08:53 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? Here are some comments from an exit I wrote in 1990. I don't know how much of it is still accurate, so take it with a container ship full of NaCl. ** * * INTERNAL TEXT HAS THE FOLLOWING FORMAT: * *JOB STATEMENTS: * * 1 STRLTH - 2 BYTES BINARY, LENGTH OF ENTIRE TEXT INCLUDING * ITSELF * 1 STRINDCS - 1 BYTE FLAG, X'01' INDICATES JOB STMT * 1 STRJINDC - 1 BYTE FLAG * 1 STRJIND2 - 1 BYTE FLAG * 1 STRJLABD - 1 BYTE FLAG * 1 STRJKEY - VERB KEY ENTRIES BEGIN HERE UP TO END OF TEXT * *EXEC STATEMENTS: * * 1 STRLTH - 2 BYTES BINARY, LENGTH OF ENTIRE TEXT INCLUDING * ITSELF * 1 STRINDCS - 1 BYTE FLAG, X'02' INDICATES EXEC STMT * 1 STREINDC - 1 BYTE FLAG * 1 STREKEY - VERB KEY ENTRIES BEGIN HERE UP TO END OF TEXT * *DD STATEMENTS: * * 1 STRLTH - 2 BYTES BINARY, LENGTH OF ENTIRE TEXT INCLUDING * ITSELF * 1 STRINDCS - 1 BYTE FLAG, X'04' INDICATES DD STMT * 1 STRDINDC - 1 BYTE FLAG * 1 STRDKEY - VERB KEY ENTRIES BEGIN HERE UP TO END OF TEXT * * VERB KEY ENTRIES CORRESPOND TO POSITIONAL AND KEYWORD PARAMETERS * ON THE ASSOCIATED STATEMENTS. THE FORMAT OF A VERB KEY ENTRY IS: * * 1 VERBKEY - 1 BYTE BINARY, INDICATES PARAMETER TYPE. SEE * MACRO IEFVKEYS IN SYS1.AMODGEN FOR SPECIFIC VERB KEYS. * 2 NUMPARMS - 1 BYTE BINARY, NUMBER OF PARAMETERS ASSOCIATED * WITH THIS PARAMETER TYPE. * 2 PARMS OCCURS NUMPARMS TIMES. *3 SPFLAG - 1 BIT FLAG, IF ON INDICATES SUBPARAMETERS ARE * PRESENT. IF OFF, SUBPARAMETERS ARE NOT PRESENT. * * THE REMAINDER OF THE VERB KEY ENTRY IS DEPENDENT ON THE VALUE OF * SPFLAG. IF SPFLAG IS OFF, THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE ENTRY IS: * *3 PARMLEN - 7 BITS BINARY, INDICATES LENGTH OF ASSOCIATED *PARAMETER (VALUE 0 THROUGH 127). *3 PARMVAL - PARMLEM BYTES OF CLEAR TEXT. * * IF THE SPFLAG IS ON, INDICATING SUBPARAMETERS, THE REMAINDER OF * THE VERB KEY ENTRY IS COMPOSED OF REPEATING SUBPARAMETERS: * *3 SPCOUNT - 7 BITS BINARY, NUMBER OF SUBPARAMETERS. *3 SUBPARMS - OCCURS SPCOUNT TIMES. * 4 SPLENGTH - 1 BYTE BINARY, LENGTH OF SUBPARAMETER VALUE. * 4 SPVAL - SPLENGTH BYTES OF CLEAR TEXT. * ** EJECT ** * * SUBPARAMETERS CANNOT THEMSELVES HAVE SUBPARAMETERS. PARAMETERS * AND SUBPARAMETERS CAN HAVE ZERO LENGTH; WHEN A STEPNAME OR DDNAME * IS OMITTED FROM THE ORIGINAL JCL FOR EXAMPLE, THE INTERNAL TEXT * INDICATES A STEPNAME OR DDNAME OF ZERO BYTES. OMITTED (BUT NOT * TRAILING) PARAMETERS ALSO ARE INDICATED WITH ZERO-LENGTH ENTRIES. * *** THIS INFORMATION IS NOT
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
In 549973cc.3040...@copper.net, on 12/23/2014 at 08:53 AM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net said: Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? Try 4.0 MVS Converter / Interpreter Text Processing in z/OS MVS Installation Exits, SA22-7593 -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? I've been using PDF copies of all the JES2 manuals in the SK5T-9234 download. And using the extended search I just can't seem to figure out which data areas I need to look at. It is also interesting that the manuals keep referring to a JES2 Customization manual, but it doesn't exist in this set of manuals. However that topic/chapter is in the JES2 Introduction. This happens to be a continuation of the PARMDD issue I mentioned earlier. It is working, then it isn't, then it is. And I can (using eJES) display the converter text, but I would like to understand the bit flags, because it appears that the EXPORT JCL statement is ignored when things don't work -- and I'd like to figure out why. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
Steve Thompson wrote: It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Which of C/B or C/I (in your subject) are you refering? It is also interesting that the manuals keep referring to a JES2 Customization manual, but it doesn't exist in this set of manuals. However that topic/chapter is in the JES2 Introduction. I see your point. I immediately looked at 'Tailoring your JES2 system' amongst other places in 'JES2 Introduction' book, but must also missed something... Could that book be a RedBook or a Share presentation? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
On 12/23/2014 09:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Which of C/B or C/I (in your subject) are you refering? SNIPPAGE I am looking for where the Converter text is defined. The last time I was working in/with JES2 C/Bs I was doing the JES2 SRB support for ACS/WYLBUR (formerly OBS/WYLBUR). I haven't touched any of that since 1998. There, we would fake a DEB, build a minimal DCB, link 'em and go read spool direct. Me thinks I could not get WYLBUR to do the SRB work these days with all the changes that have been done since OS/390 2.4. Man I miss those days... Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
There are Documentation WEB pages and within them, scroll down to the z/OS JES2 line on the left and locate the z/OS JES2 Data Areas volumes. For z/OS 1.13: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13/en/Homepage.html Oops, for version 2, these manuals appear to be missing: For z/OS 2.01: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1/en/homepage.html Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 Information Technology University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue) It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? I've been using PDF copies of all the JES2 manuals in the SK5T-9234 download. And using the extended search I just can't seem to figure out which data areas I need to look at. It is also interesting that the manuals keep referring to a JES2 Customization manual, but it doesn't exist in this set of manuals. However that topic/chapter is in the JES2 Introduction. This happens to be a continuation of the PARMDD issue I mentioned earlier. It is working, then it isn't, then it is. And I can (using eJES) display the converter text, but I would like to understand the bit flags, because it appears that the EXPORT JCL statement is ignored when things don't work -- and I'd like to figure out why. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
I think what you want starts here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2E4B0/4.0 and, more specifically, here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2E4B0/4.3 But these are the 1.12 version, because that's what I'm running. z/OS 2.1 version seems to be here: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieae400/txfcvt.htm On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net wrote: It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? I've been using PDF copies of all the JES2 manuals in the SK5T-9234 download. And using the extended search I just can't seem to figure out which data areas I need to look at. It is also interesting that the manuals keep referring to a JES2 Customization manual, but it doesn't exist in this set of manuals. However that topic/chapter is in the JES2 Introduction. This happens to be a continuation of the PARMDD issue I mentioned earlier. It is working, then it isn't, then it is. And I can (using eJES) display the converter text, but I would like to understand the bit flags, because it appears that the EXPORT JCL statement is ignored when things don't work -- and I'd like to figure out why. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- While a transcendent vocabulary is laudable, one must be eternally careful so that the calculated objective of communication does not become ensconced in obscurity. In other words, eschew obfuscation. 111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321 Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
On 12/23/2014 09:21 AM, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: There are Documentation WEB pages and within them, scroll down to the z/OS JES2 line on the left and locate the z/OS JES2 Data Areas volumes. For z/OS 1.13: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13/en/Homepage.html Oops, for version 2, these manuals appear to be missing: For z/OS 2.01: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1/en/homepage.html Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 Information Technology University of Florida (352) 273-1298 SNIPPAGE When all else fails, use SRCHFOR on the macro library (SHASMAC), then read a few macros. Now search the mighty fine JES2 manuals. Security via obscurity. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
Aside from the Jes2 Intro, ABCs of System Programming also contains some info. Better yet .. google 'JES2 Bootcamp' .. HTH Jim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue) Steve Thompson wrote: It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Which of C/B or C/I (in your subject) are you refering? It is also interesting that the manuals keep referring to a JES2 Customization manual, but it doesn't exist in this set of manuals. However that topic/chapter is in the JES2 Introduction. I see your point. I immediately looked at 'Tailoring your JES2 system' amongst other places in 'JES2 Introduction' book, but must also missed something... Could that book be a RedBook or a Share presentation? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8792 - Release Date: 12/23/14 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:53:16 -0500, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net wrote: It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? Regards, Steve Thompson I believe what you are looking for is not in any JES2 Macros, but in Macros IEFTXTFT and IEFVKEYS in SYS1.MODGEN. -- Dale R. Smith -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
And maybe everyone knows this, but for a quick look you can submit a job on hold and use INPUT ON in SDSF with SE to see the $INTTEXT in hex. Dale R. Smith wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:53:16 -0500, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net wrote: It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? Regards, Steve Thompson I believe what you are looking for is not in any JES2 Macros, but in Macros IEFTXTFT and IEFVKEYS in SYS1.MODGEN. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)
Data Areas PDFs can be found here: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/v2r1pdf/#HAS -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
