Re: OT: Japan clocks keep time for 16 billion years

2015-02-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:43:03 -0600, John McKown  wrote:

>Does it automatically adjust for relativistic effects? This is critical
>because the Earth, upon which I assume the clock resides, does not reside
>in an inertial frame, but is constantly accelerating.
>
It must, given that such effects have been measured for about a half century:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele%E2%80%93Keating_experiment#Gravitational_time_dilation

On 02/23/2015 06:53 AM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:
> This is another example of nature, very irritatingly, not obeying our rules, 
> like the leap-second. How shall we call this second? No hurry, we still got 
> time.
> 
Indeed.  One contributor to this forum is so irritated that he denies that the 
next leap second
will properly be designated:

  2015 June 30, 23h 59m 60s
https://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/bulletinc.dat

... because that contradicts the congruential scheme of time notation obsoleted 
by the
adoption of UTC in 1972.

I grant that:

o UTC with its leap seconds is a PITA to IT personnel.

o I believe (a smoothed) UT1 would have been a better standard for IT.  Alas,
  POSIX hadn't that foresight.

-- gil

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Re: OT: Japan clocks keep time for 16 billion years

2015-02-23 Thread John McKown
Does it automatically adjust for relativistic effects? This is critical
because the Earth, upon which I assume the clock resides, does not reside
in an inertial frame, but is constantly accelerating.
On Feb 23, 2015 7:39 AM, "Elardus Engelbrecht" <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Seriously OT, but I'm innocent just in time. Blame those clever Japanese
> researchers.
>
> "they are so accurate they will lose a second only every 16 billion years"
> - Not accurate enough for me, but ... :-)
>
>
> http://www.fin24.com/Tech/News/Japan-clocks-keep-time-for-16-billion-years-20150223
>
> Have a tick-tock-tick fun!
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
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Re: Japan clocks keep time for 16 billion years

2015-02-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
This is another example of nature, very irritatingly, not obeying our rules, 
like the leap-second. How shall we call this second? No hurry, we still got 
time.

Kees.

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Subject: OT: Japan clocks keep time for 16 billion years

Seriously OT, but I'm innocent just in time. Blame those clever Japanese 
researchers.

"they are so accurate they will lose a second only every 16 billion years" - 
Not accurate enough for me, but ... :-)

http://www.fin24.com/Tech/News/Japan-clocks-keep-time-for-16-billion-years-20150223

Have a tick-tock-tick fun!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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OT: Japan clocks keep time for 16 billion years

2015-02-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Seriously OT, but I'm innocent just in time. Blame those clever Japanese 
researchers.

"they are so accurate they will lose a second only every 16 billion years" - 
Not accurate enough for me, but ... :-)

http://www.fin24.com/Tech/News/Japan-clocks-keep-time-for-16-billion-years-20150223

Have a tick-tock-tick fun!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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