Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
Ed Jaffe wrote: >Linux uses disks with a fixed-block architecture. The lowest-level >I/O driver in zCX maps these blocks one-for-one to ultra-high- >performing z/OS-owned and managed VSAM linear data sets that >implement the latest I/O enhancements such as zHyperLinks, >pervasive encryption, replication/HyperSwap, etc. NFS (Network File System) also works if you wish, as I recall. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
On 8/20/2019 2:51 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 2019-08-20 12:48 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: zCX virtualizes its embedded Linux for Z instance using SIE as well... I'm curious about how I/O is virtualized? If I install ELK into a zCX container will it use a zFS file system for the Elastic data base? Linux uses disks with a fixed-block architecture. The lowest-level I/O driver in zCX maps these blocks one-for-one to ultra-high-performing z/OS-owned and managed VSAM linear data sets that implement the latest I/O enhancements such as zHyperLinks, pervasive encryption, replication/HyperSwap, etc. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
On 2019-08-20 12:48 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 8/19/2019 7:40 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Lots of possibilities for what one can do. Something to bear in mind its a “virtualized” guest so I/O performance will be less than native zLinux performance. I haven’t seen any good data on the actual differences in performance but that would be interesting. Linux on Z typically runs under z/VM which virtualizes guests using an extremely high-performing IBM Z hardware virtualization feature called START INTERPRETIVE EXECUTION (or SIE). This hardware feature results in extremely low (but of course not zero) performance degradation when compared to native LPAR. zCX virtualizes its embedded Linux for Z instance using SIE as well... I'm curious about how I/O is virtualized? If I install ELK into a zCX container will it use a zFS file system for the Elastic data base? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
Hi: It was always difficult for me to find materials about SIE ... A nice source of data I found was the Linux Kernel sources, because of KVM ... It is nice to see for example how the instructions starting with a B2 opcode are intercepted It is good to understand how the job is actually done ... Mauri -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
On 8/19/2019 7:40 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Lots of possibilities for what one can do. Something to bear in mind its a “virtualized” guest so I/O performance will be less than native zLinux performance. I haven’t seen any good data on the actual differences in performance but that would be interesting. Linux on Z typically runs under z/VM which virtualizes guests using an extremely high-performing IBM Z hardware virtualization feature called START INTERPRETIVE EXECUTION (or SIE). This hardware feature results in extremely low (but of course not zero) performance degradation when compared to native LPAR. zCX virtualizes its embedded Linux for Z instance using SIE as well... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
What about licensing issues? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4 Cool so we can run oracle on top of it ? On Mon, 19 Aug, 2019, 2:57 PM Mike Shorkend, wrote: > zCX workloads are ZIIP eligible. No IFLs involved. > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 10:11, Jake Anderson > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will there > > be a IFL to offload only Linux workload from zOS ? As getting into > general > > CP is going to squeeze the performance in general. > > > > Jake. > > > > On Mon, 29 Jul, 2019, 1:54 PM Mark Hiscock, > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > If you want to learn more about zCX then I just listened to this this > > > episode of Terminal Talk which covers it really well: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1j6QSyUu3SiJ8X_sQK4cjW6C36OAD24_-PAi4nrlpfo3ktD0-mKeuS50CPJgQRkXwft7wW9N0J50uynF3lS0pG-53ztKIL5X6AF81m6nkmw5X9ys3gQeZnwOmNH2A6hLGDToM_oDOz-czYvNtZqqUpG2DM_jMMguRKZOsOQA8_qBsmBc6U1LLJyx4PjXSZeqBfoITZ9pIm0scY8q-Bo5ZQZ1cyB-_p2Bk5DpjcYeCn9a4fOr3WsIzU8pccNIiza2aLL-XBZgjgvP7bD_4pgnBx1R96a-LicRetDYlCX1qRk8euuPeDgHu7snvoN8uknH9MMuMO9Hm9miO8LRMUeXB8zUvqzYlerZL2AEYanMsvxE40NWOX3mtnwmbs41oZ0B_/http%3A%2F%2Fterminaltalk.net%2FPodcastGenerator%2F%3Fname%3Dgary_puchkoff_-_z_os_container_extensions.mp3 > > > > > > > > > Terminal Talk is an awesome podcast about the mainframe so check out > > > previous topics if you haven't heard any before. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Mark > > > --- > > > Mark Hiscock > > > z/OS Connect > > > Phone: (+44)1962 818662 > > > Email: mark.hisc...@uk.ibm.com > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John McKown > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Date: 25/07/2019 17:40 > > > Subject:Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4 > > > Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List < > IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jake Anderson < > justmainfra...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Just curious about 2.4 ? > > > > > > > > Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over > > the > > > > linux on zVM ? > > > > > > > > This is just a question out of curiosity. > > > > > > > > Jake > > > > \ > > > > > > > > > People probably need to understand zCX and Docker. zCX appears to be > > > documented here: > > > > > > > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/11Xfaf_oIP3k09pJMcmjmKtlHDOMxZdvbVSwD5uGwDldtTlU20JLpZgomNncHouvDaxXwxpMOSgGM90lLS_E1kzcsV26eizbTfa1ZUhp7TT8Grwutf-GrpO-0lBHL7JPaTWz0SEIfW6efoaq_e8DrFCf3UqG1-AuaaePNiE8aoMTHWKzAaOe-YLAcLvPpEqYOeDRumoLX5_Y0VU1OrrNQlmIjSlM3FMr3OQPmVUAMcNhqB6SQIP27pnmBurH0Admc-Ivx0_r1YaM96bYas1nxuJtv1HkBNMTcyWPIcsdIvc3VYXKLfMc7GdK6zKgcnak_H2Brf6LZV-RNu4yVXMG1SfoorCKksr_uo0UlTRmPH_gPzxGoDFUnW8bVLHtb4deT/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.4.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r4.izso100%2Fizso100_introduction.htm > > > > > > > > > -- > > > A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the > blackboard. > > > -- Prof. Steiner > > > > > > Maranatha! <>< > > > John McKown > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > > > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with > number > > > 741598. > > > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 > > 3AU > > > > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > &
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
Lots of possibilities for what one can do. Something to bear in mind its a “virtualized” guest so I/O performance will be less than native zLinux performance. I haven’t seen any good data on the actual differences in performance but that would be interesting. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 Facebook <https://facebook.com/matt.hogstrom> LinkedIn <https://linkedin/in/mhogstrom> Twitter <https://twitter.com/hogstrom> “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom > On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:06 AM, Peter wrote: > > Cool so we can run oracle on top of it ? > > On Mon, 19 Aug, 2019, 2:57 PM Mike Shorkend, > wrote: > >> zCX workloads are ZIIP eligible. No IFLs involved. >> >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 10:11, Jake Anderson >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will there >>> be a IFL to offload only Linux workload from zOS ? As getting into >> general >>> CP is going to squeeze the performance in general. >>> >>> Jake. >>> >>> On Mon, 29 Jul, 2019, 1:54 PM Mark Hiscock, >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> If you want to learn more about zCX then I just listened to this this >>>> episode of Terminal Talk which covers it really well: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> http://terminaltalk.net/PodcastGenerator/?name=gary_puchkoff_-_z_os_container_extensions.mp3 >>>> >>>> >>>> Terminal Talk is an awesome podcast about the mainframe so check out >>>> previous topics if you haven't heard any before. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> --- >>>> Mark Hiscock >>>> z/OS Connect >>>> Phone: (+44)1962 818662 >>>> Email: mark.hisc...@uk.ibm.com >>>> --- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: John McKown >>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>>> Date: 25/07/2019 17:40 >>>> Subject:Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4 >>>> Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List < >> IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jake Anderson < >> justmainfra...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> Just curious about 2.4 ? >>>>> >>>>> Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over >>> the >>>>> linux on zVM ? >>>>> >>>>> This is just a question out of curiosity. >>>>> >>>>> Jake >>>>> \ >>>> >>>> >>>> People probably need to understand zCX and Docker. zCX appears to be >>>> documented here: >>>> >>>> >>> >> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.izso100/izso100_introduction.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the >> blackboard. >>>> -- Prof. Steiner >>>> >>>> Maranatha! <>< >>>> John McKown >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Unless stated otherwise above: >>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with >> number >>>> 741598. >>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 >>> 3AU >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Shorkend >> m...@shorkend.com >> www.shorkend.com >> Tel: +972524208743 >> Fax: +97239772196 >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
I doubt it. You would need to get your hands on an Oracle container(do they even exist?) compiled on Linux for z. On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 14:06, Peter wrote: > Cool so we can run oracle on top of it ? > > On Mon, 19 Aug, 2019, 2:57 PM Mike Shorkend, > wrote: > > > zCX workloads are ZIIP eligible. No IFLs involved. > > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 10:11, Jake Anderson > > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will > there > > > be a IFL to offload only Linux workload from zOS ? As getting into > > general > > > CP is going to squeeze the performance in general. > > > > > > Jake. > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Jul, 2019, 1:54 PM Mark Hiscock, > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > If you want to learn more about zCX then I just listened to this this > > > > episode of Terminal Talk which covers it really well: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://terminaltalk.net/PodcastGenerator/?name=gary_puchkoff_-_z_os_container_extensions.mp3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Terminal Talk is an awesome podcast about the mainframe so check out > > > > previous topics if you haven't heard any before. > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > ------------------- > > > > Mark Hiscock > > > > z/OS Connect > > > > Phone: (+44)1962 818662 > > > > Email: mark.hisc...@uk.ibm.com > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John McKown > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Date: 25/07/2019 17:40 > > > > Subject:Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4 > > > > Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List < > > IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jake Anderson < > > justmainfra...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > Just curious about 2.4 ? > > > > > > > > > > Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage > over > > > the > > > > > linux on zVM ? > > > > > > > > > > This is just a question out of curiosity. > > > > > > > > > > Jake > > > > > \ > > > > > > > > > > > > People probably need to understand zCX and Docker. zCX appears to be > > > > documented here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.izso100/izso100_introduction.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the > > blackboard. > > > > -- Prof. Steiner > > > > > > > > Maranatha! <>< > > > > John McKown > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > > > > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with > > number > > > > 741598. > > > > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire > PO6 > > > 3AU > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mike Shorkend > > m...@shorkend.com > > www.shorkend.com > > Tel: +972524208743 > > Fax: +97239772196 > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Mike Shorkend m...@shorkend.com www.shorkend.com Tel: +972524208743 Fax: +97239772196 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
Cool so we can run oracle on top of it ? On Mon, 19 Aug, 2019, 2:57 PM Mike Shorkend, wrote: > zCX workloads are ZIIP eligible. No IFLs involved. > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 10:11, Jake Anderson > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will there > > be a IFL to offload only Linux workload from zOS ? As getting into > general > > CP is going to squeeze the performance in general. > > > > Jake. > > > > On Mon, 29 Jul, 2019, 1:54 PM Mark Hiscock, > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > If you want to learn more about zCX then I just listened to this this > > > episode of Terminal Talk which covers it really well: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://terminaltalk.net/PodcastGenerator/?name=gary_puchkoff_-_z_os_container_extensions.mp3 > > > > > > > > > Terminal Talk is an awesome podcast about the mainframe so check out > > > previous topics if you haven't heard any before. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Mark > > > --- > > > Mark Hiscock > > > z/OS Connect > > > Phone: (+44)1962 818662 > > > Email: mark.hisc...@uk.ibm.com > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John McKown > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Date: 25/07/2019 17:40 > > > Subject:Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4 > > > Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List < > IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jake Anderson < > justmainfra...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Just curious about 2.4 ? > > > > > > > > Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over > > the > > > > linux on zVM ? > > > > > > > > This is just a question out of curiosity. > > > > > > > > Jake > > > > \ > > > > > > > > > People probably need to understand zCX and Docker. zCX appears to be > > > documented here: > > > > > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.izso100/izso100_introduction.htm > > > > > > > > > -- > > > A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the > blackboard. > > > -- Prof. Steiner > > > > > > Maranatha! <>< > > > John McKown > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > > > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with > number > > > 741598. > > > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 > > 3AU > > > > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > Mike Shorkend > m...@shorkend.com > www.shorkend.com > Tel: +972524208743 > Fax: +97239772196 > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
zCX workloads are ZIIP eligible. No IFLs involved. On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 10:11, Jake Anderson wrote: > Hi > > How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will there > be a IFL to offload only Linux workload from zOS ? As getting into general > CP is going to squeeze the performance in general. > > Jake. > > On Mon, 29 Jul, 2019, 1:54 PM Mark Hiscock, > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > If you want to learn more about zCX then I just listened to this this > > episode of Terminal Talk which covers it really well: > > > > > > > http://terminaltalk.net/PodcastGenerator/?name=gary_puchkoff_-_z_os_container_extensions.mp3 > > > > > > Terminal Talk is an awesome podcast about the mainframe so check out > > previous topics if you haven't heard any before. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Mark > > --- > > Mark Hiscock > > z/OS Connect > > Phone: (+44)1962 818662 > > Email: mark.hisc...@uk.ibm.com > > ------------------- > > > > > > > > From: John McKown > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Date: 25/07/2019 17:40 > > Subject:Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4 > > Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jake Anderson > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Just curious about 2.4 ? > > > > > > Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over > the > > > linux on zVM ? > > > > > > This is just a question out of curiosity. > > > > > > Jake > > > \ > > > > > > People probably need to understand zCX and Docker. zCX appears to be > > documented here: > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.izso100/izso100_introduction.htm > > > > > > -- > > A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the blackboard. > > -- Prof. Steiner > > > > Maranatha! <>< > > John McKown > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > > 741598. > > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 > 3AU > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Mike Shorkend m...@shorkend.com www.shorkend.com Tel: +972524208743 Fax: +97239772196 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
Hi How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will there be a IFL to offload only Linux workload from zOS ? As getting into general CP is going to squeeze the performance in general. Jake. On Mon, 29 Jul, 2019, 1:54 PM Mark Hiscock, wrote: > Hi all, > > If you want to learn more about zCX then I just listened to this this > episode of Terminal Talk which covers it really well: > > > http://terminaltalk.net/PodcastGenerator/?name=gary_puchkoff_-_z_os_container_extensions.mp3 > > > Terminal Talk is an awesome podcast about the mainframe so check out > previous topics if you haven't heard any before. > > Kind Regards, > > Mark > --- > Mark Hiscock > z/OS Connect > Phone: (+44)1962 818662 > Email: mark.hisc...@uk.ibm.com > --- > > > > From: John McKown > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 25/07/2019 17:40 > Subject:Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4 > Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jake Anderson > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Just curious about 2.4 ? > > > > Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over the > > linux on zVM ? > > > > This is just a question out of curiosity. > > > > Jake > > \ > > > People probably need to understand zCX and Docker. zCX appears to be > documented here: > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.izso100/izso100_introduction.htm > > > -- > A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the blackboard. > -- Prof. Steiner > > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
Hi all, If you want to learn more about zCX then I just listened to this this episode of Terminal Talk which covers it really well: http://terminaltalk.net/PodcastGenerator/?name=gary_puchkoff_-_z_os_container_extensions.mp3 Terminal Talk is an awesome podcast about the mainframe so check out previous topics if you haven't heard any before. Kind Regards, Mark --- Mark Hiscock z/OS Connect Phone: (+44)1962 818662 Email: mark.hisc...@uk.ibm.com --- From: John McKown To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 25/07/2019 17:40 Subject:Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jake Anderson wrote: > Hi > > Just curious about 2.4 ? > > Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over the > linux on zVM ? > > This is just a question out of curiosity. > > Jake > \ People probably need to understand zCX and Docker. zCX appears to be documented here: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.izso100/izso100_introduction.htm -- A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the blackboard. -- Prof. Steiner Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jake Anderson wrote: > Hi > > Just curious about 2.4 ? > > Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over the > linux on zVM ? > > This is just a question out of curiosity. > > Jake > \ People probably need to understand zCX and Docker. zCX appears to be documented here: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.izso100/izso100_introduction.htm -- A sine curve goes off to infinity, or at least the end of the blackboard. -- Prof. Steiner Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 08:16:39 +, Martin Packer wrote: > >Three I can think of straightway: > >1) No Linux sysproging > I'd expect, rather, the Linux sysproging to be similar, but no VM sysproging. >2) WLM workload management >3) Proximity to the data > Classic data sets, or zFS, or DB2, or other (specify). And there remains the EBCDIC nightmare. Security/integrity concerns. Will users be able to log on to Linux with RACF credentials and access all their z/OS resources? Classic PDS serialization is cast in stone; NFS obeys ISPF's ENQ rules. >I think it’s going to be VERY interesting ts see what architectures and >operational regimes people come up with. >> On 5 Jul 2019, at 11:22, Jake Anderson wrote: >> >> Just curious about 2.4 ? >> >> Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over the >> linux on zVM ? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
Three I can think of straightway: 1) No Linux sysproging 2) WLM workload management 3) Proximity to the data I think it’s going to be VERY interesting to see what architectures and operational regimes people come up with. Cheers, Martin Sent from my iPad > On 25 Jul 2019, at 11:22, Jake Anderson wrote: > > Hi > > Just curious about 2.4 ? > > Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over the > linux on zVM ? > > This is just a question out of curiosity. > > Jake > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Linux address space on z/OS 2.4
Hi Just curious about 2.4 ? Running Linux as an address space in zOS will have an advantage over the linux on zVM ? This is just a question out of curiosity. Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
