Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)
On 5/23/2013 8:33 AM, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Gee, thanks, Ed. You mentioned the link below and I get a 404 error. You told IBM it was there so they scrubbed it too! Too funny! :-D My bad. I always remove those "-07" (and similar) suffixes from IBM URLs to make them smaller and cleaner. I've never had a problem with that technique until now. Starting today, I'll double-check to be sure that modified URLs actually work before posting them publicly. (I still learn something new every day...) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)
Just a bit of clarification. I got the 404 error using the link Ed had provided. When I changed the "www." to "www-07." I was able to get the PDF. The firewall question Liz asked was the first thing that popped into my mind as well (along with blocked sites, etc) so I sent ED's e-mail to my home address which has nothing blocked, and I got the 404 there as well. That was when I searched IBM-land and got the hit using the www-07 link. Great list - I've definitely gotten more help from it than I have been able to return. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...) Do you have a firewall issue? I was able to use this link to get to the document. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...) Gee, thanks, Ed. You mentioned the link below and I get a 404 error. You told IBM it was there so they scrubbed it too! Seriously, I got a 404 not found error using the link. I found it here: http://www-07.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_fa q.pdf Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...) On 5/22/2013 11:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it > promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most > important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very > importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing > improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict > everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics > Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't > issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers > missed how seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter. I really liked the Mainframe Charter. It was a great way to kick-off the mainframe's 40th anniversary celebrations! I was disappointed when IBM started systematically scrubbing away every trace of the Mainframe Charter from its web sites. (Fortunately, they left this FAQ that explains what it was all about: http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.p df). I hope they plan to do another all new one next year to help celebrate the mainframe's 50th anniversary! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments and appended messages, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution, copying, storage or other use of all or any portion of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message in its entirety. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)
Do you have a firewall issue? I was able to use this link to get to the document. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...) Gee, thanks, Ed. You mentioned the link below and I get a 404 error. You told IBM it was there so they scrubbed it too! Seriously, I got a 404 not found error using the link. I found it here: http://www-07.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_fa q.pdf Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...) On 5/22/2013 11:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it > promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most > important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very > importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing > improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict > everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics > Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't > issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers > missed how seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter. I really liked the Mainframe Charter. It was a great way to kick-off the mainframe's 40th anniversary celebrations! I was disappointed when IBM started systematically scrubbing away every trace of the Mainframe Charter from its web sites. (Fortunately, they left this FAQ that explains what it was all about: http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.p df). I hope they plan to do another all new one next year to help celebrate the mainframe's 50th anniversary! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)
Gee, thanks, Ed. You mentioned the link below and I get a 404 error. You told IBM it was there so they scrubbed it too! Seriously, I got a 404 not found error using the link. I found it here: http://www-07.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.pdf Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...) On 5/22/2013 11:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it > promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most > important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very > importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing > improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict > everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics > Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't > issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers missed how > seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter. I really liked the Mainframe Charter. It was a great way to kick-off the mainframe's 40th anniversary celebrations! I was disappointed when IBM started systematically scrubbing away every trace of the Mainframe Charter from its web sites. (Fortunately, they left this FAQ that explains what it was all about: http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.pdf). I hope they plan to do another all new one next year to help celebrate the mainframe's 50th anniversary! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments and appended messages, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution, copying, storage or other use of all or any portion of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message in its entirety. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)
On 5/22/2013 11:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers missed how seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter. I really liked the Mainframe Charter. It was a great way to kick-off the mainframe's 40th anniversary celebrations! I was disappointed when IBM started systematically scrubbing away every trace of the Mainframe Charter from its web sites. (Fortunately, they left this FAQ that explains what it was all about: http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.pdf). I hope they plan to do another all new one next year to help celebrate the mainframe's 50th anniversary! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
