Re: Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-14 Thread Gord Neill
We opened a ticket with IBM, and they said that installing z/OS 3.1 using CBPDO 
on a brand new system is not supported, we need to use ServerPac.

>From the z/OS 3.1 Planning for Installation manual:

If you are a new customer and did not have z/OS installed previously, use one 
of the following installation packages to install z/OS 3.1:
* For entitled packages (ServerPac and CBPDO), use ServerPac (z/OSMF 
portable software instance). You   also need the Customized Offerings Driver 
(5751-COD) as a   driving system; the Customized Offering Driver is 
entitled.

It's a wee bit fuzzy when they say use "one of the following", but the only one 
is ServerPac.  We've ordered a ServerPac and will go forward with that.  

Thanks to all for your help.

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> We are using the waves and ripples sequence in the Program Directory.  This 
> error occurs in Wave 0.



> We found that LMOD IEWDLR00 is created in HBB77E0.F6(HBB77E0), STEP 17.  
> Looks like part of Wave 1A.

> Is it possible that running the DDDEFs for Wave 1 and Wave 2 before Wave 0 
> APPLY was completed has messed up things, i.e. pointing to incorrect 
> libraries?

No, the presence of DDDEF entries should not affect or cause this error.

If you have not already, I suggest you open a support case with IBM as I think 
we need to look at your output to debug this further.  IEWDLR00 defined I Wave 
1A, after Wave 0, is a head scratcher.  There should be no reference to 
IEWDLR00 in Wave 0.  Are you installing into a brand new empty target zone, or 
did you make a copy of the target zone from a prior release?

Kurt Quackenbush
IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  |  ku...@us.ibm.com

Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Re: Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-09 Thread Gord Neill
It's a brand new empty target zone.  We're using brand new hardware, so our 
only source is what's on the COD system.  We got rid of all the existing DDDEF 
entries for all Waves, then just rebuilt the ones for Wave 0.  You're right, it 
made no difference.

I guess next step is to open a ticket with IBM.  Thx.

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> We are using the waves and ripples sequence in the Program Directory.  This 
> error occurs in Wave 0.



> We found that LMOD IEWDLR00 is created in HBB77E0.F6(HBB77E0), STEP 17.  
> Looks like part of Wave 1A.

> Is it possible that running the DDDEFs for Wave 1 and Wave 2 before Wave 0 
> APPLY was completed has messed up things, i.e. pointing to incorrect 
> libraries?

No, the presence of DDDEF entries should not affect or cause this error.

If you have not already, I suggest you open a support case with IBM as I think 
we need to look at your output to debug this further.  IEWDLR00 defined I Wave 
1A, after Wave 0, is a head scratcher.  There should be no reference to 
IEWDLR00 in Wave 0.  Are you installing into a brand new empty target zone, or 
did you make a copy of the target zone from a prior release?

Kurt Quackenbush
IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  |  ku...@us.ibm.com

Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Re: Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-09 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
> We are using the waves and ripples sequence in the Program Directory.  This 
> error occurs in Wave 0.



> We found that LMOD IEWDLR00 is created in HBB77E0.F6(HBB77E0), STEP 17.  
> Looks like part of Wave 1A.

> Is it possible that running the DDDEFs for Wave 1 and Wave 2 before Wave 0 
> APPLY was completed has messed up things, i.e. pointing to incorrect 
> libraries?

No, the presence of DDDEF entries should not affect or cause this error.

If you have not already, I suggest you open a support case with IBM as I think 
we need to look at your output to debug this further.  IEWDLR00 defined I Wave 
1A, after Wave 0, is a head scratcher.  There should be no reference to 
IEWDLR00 in Wave 0.  Are you installing into a brand new empty target zone, or 
did you make a copy of the target zone from a prior release?

Kurt Quackenbush
IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  |  ku...@us.ibm.com

Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Re: Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-07 Thread Gord Neill
Kurt,
We are using the waves and ripples sequence in the Program Directory.  This 
error occurs in Wave 0.  During this Wave, these FMIDs are to be applied:
FORFMID(HMP1K00,
  HMQ4160)
  HPM77E0)

We removed HPM77E0, then ran APPLY for the other 2 FMIDs.  That worked OK.  
Trying to do the APPLY for HPM77E0 keeps giving us the "LMOD not found" message.

We found that LMOD IEWDLR00 is created in HBB77E0.F6(HBB77E0), STEP 17.  Looks 
like part of Wave 1A.

Another thought.  We might have gotten ahead of ourselves in running the 
Allocate and DDDEF sample jobs - we did them all at once before Wave 0 APPLY.   
Is it possible that running the DDDEFs for Wave 1 and Wave 2 before Wave 0 
APPLY was completed has messed up things, i.e. pointing to incorrect libraries?

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> We're trying to install z/OS 3.1 via CBPDO using the z/OS 2.4 COD system as 
> the base.  We keep getting this message about an LMOD missing:

> GIM24601E ** LMOD ENTRY IEWLDR00 IS NEEDED FOR PROCESSING BUT IS NOT 
> IN THE SMPCSI LIBRARY

Are you installing the FMIDs in the waves and ripples sequence as described in 
the z/OS 3.1 Program Directory?
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=level-zos-program-directory
Which wave/ripple are you currently installing that gets this error?  Can you 
find where LMOD IEWLDR00 is created in the APPLY output for a prior wave/ripple?

Kurt Quackenbush
IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  |  ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck 
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Re: Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-07 Thread Glenn Knickerbocker
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 22:07:35 +, Kurt Quackenbush  wrote:

>> GIM24601E ** LMOD ENTRY IEWLDR00 IS NEEDED FOR PROCESSING BUT IS NOT IN THE 
>> SMPCSI LIBRARY
>
>Are you installing the FMIDs in the waves and ripples sequence as described in 
>the z/OS 3.1 Program Directory?
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=level-zos-program-directory
>Which wave/ripple are you currently installing that gets this error?  Can you 
>find where LMOD IEWLDR00 is created in the APPLY output for a prior 
>wave/ripple?

That's the Loader, so it should be right at the start of Wave 1A in BCP, 
HBB77E0.

--Glenn

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Re: Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-07 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
> We're trying to install z/OS 3.1 via CBPDO using the z/OS 2.4 COD system as 
> the base.  We keep getting this message about an LMOD missing:

> GIM24601E ** LMOD ENTRY IEWLDR00 IS NEEDED FOR PROCESSING BUT IS NOT IN THE 
> SMPCSI LIBRARY

Are you installing the FMIDs in the waves and ripples sequence as described in 
the z/OS 3.1 Program Directory?
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=level-zos-program-directory
Which wave/ripple are you currently installing that gets this error?  Can you 
find where LMOD IEWLDR00 is created in the APPLY output for a prior wave/ripple?

Kurt Quackenbush
IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  |  ku...@us.ibm.com
Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Re: Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-07 Thread Jay Maynard
It's not the module that's missing, but the SMP/E definition for the
module. You might search for a fix that adds the definition or removes the
need for it.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 11:07 AM Gord Neill <
02ff5f18e15f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Hello list,
> We're trying to install z/OS 3.1 via CBPDO using the z/OS 2.4 COD system
> as the base.  We keep getting this message about an LMOD missing:
>
> GIM24601E ** LMOD ENTRY IEWLDR00 IS NEEDED FOR PROCESSING BUT IS NOT IN
> THE SMPCSI LIBRARY
>
> We can see this module in SYS1.NUCLEUS and in SYS1.LPALIB on the COD
> system.  Is there a STEPLIB/JOBLIB that we need to include somewhere?
>
> Any guidance muchly appreciated!
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Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-07 Thread Gord Neill
Hello list,
We're trying to install z/OS 3.1 via CBPDO using the z/OS 2.4 COD system as the 
base.  We keep getting this message about an LMOD missing:

GIM24601E ** LMOD ENTRY IEWLDR00 IS NEEDED FOR PROCESSING BUT IS NOT IN THE 
SMPCSI LIBRARY

We can see this module in SYS1.NUCLEUS and in SYS1.LPALIB on the COD system.  
Is there a STEPLIB/JOBLIB that we need to include somewhere?

Any guidance muchly appreciated!









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