Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Jousma, David]

The only problem with  is that unless you have sms rules to "cleanup" 
these work datasets sometimes hang around.  Not sure if you'd get a not 
catalog2 error or if they get reused.




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I've got a many responses, thank everybody! I appreciate your help. This
is the value from being on IBM-MAIN.

Now technical topics:
ISPPROF can now be shared. However you have to configure ISPF for that
(ISPCCONF, single checkbox).
temporary datasets should remain unique, but you no longer need exit 16,
because you can use ISPCCONF instead. BTW: I prefer  over 
Reason:  clearly show system relationship.
GRS SYSIKJUA - nothing changed.
GRS SPFEDIT - seems to be not an issue because of shared ISPPROF.

Regards

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W dniu 05.11.2021 o 16:57, Radoslaw Skorupka pisze:
> I just re-read Configuring ISPF for Fun and Profit presentation and
> found the following link:
> http://home.roadrunner.com/~pinncons/TSO LOGON with the Same Userid on
> Multiple LPARs in a Sysplex.pdf
>
> However the link is dead.
> Does anyone have the presentation?
> Or any other presentation on the topic.
>
> My goal is to enable multiple TSO/ISPF logons within sysplex.
> What I know:
> - ISPPROF dataset can be shared now (it has changed)
> - LIST, LOG, TEMP datasets should not be shared. The solution is exit
> 16 or ISPF Configuration Utility (add  to the DSNs).
> - I'm not sure about PDF edit recovery files.
> - Did I miss something?
>

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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Sat, 6 Nov 2021 16:43:53 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>...
>Now technical topics:
>...
>GRS SPFEDIT - seems to be not an issue because of shared ISPPROF.
>
Cnange /because o/ /espite/

ISPF member enqueue ought to handle that:



Which has worked for me in batch versus foreground processing.  I allocated
ISPPROF toa temp DSN for batch.

Once it failed horribly because MIM had crashed.  A fail-safe design would
prohibit access when MIM was inaccessible.  But that might have other
adverse consequences.

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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Radoslaw Skorupka]

I've got a many responses, thank everybody! I appreciate your help. This 
is the value from being on IBM-MAIN.


Now technical topics:
ISPPROF can now be shared. However you have to configure ISPF for that 
(ISPCCONF, single checkbox).
temporary datasets should remain unique, but you no longer need exit 16, 
because you can use ISPCCONF instead. BTW: I prefer  over  
Reason:  clearly show system relationship.

GRS SYSIKJUA - nothing changed.
GRS SPFEDIT - seems to be not an issue because of shared ISPPROF.

Regards

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland




W dniu 05.11.2021 o 16:57, Radoslaw Skorupka pisze:
I just re-read Configuring ISPF for Fun and Profit presentation and 
found the following link:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~pinncons/TSO LOGON with the Same Userid on 
Multiple LPARs in a Sysplex.pdf


However the link is dead.
Does anyone have the presentation?
Or any other presentation on the topic.

My goal is to enable multiple TSO/ISPF logons within sysplex.
What I know:
- ISPPROF dataset can be shared now (it has changed)
- LIST, LOG, TEMP datasets should not be shared. The solution is exit 
16 or ISPF Configuration Utility (add  to the DSNs).

- I'm not sure about PDF edit recovery files.
- Did I miss something?



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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 16:57:17 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

>I just re-read Configuring ISPF for Fun and Profit presentation and
>found the following link:
>http://home.roadrunner.com/~pinncons/TSO LOGON with the Same Userid on
>Multiple LPARs in a Sysplex.pdf
>
>However the link is dead.
>Does anyone have the presentation?
>Or any other presentation on the topic.
> 
Do you need information unavailable either
from: 
or:   

?  IBM is getting better at this.  Or submit an RCF.

>My goal is to enable multiple TSO/ISPF logons within sysplex.
>What I know:
>- ISPPROF dataset can be shared now (it has changed)
>- LIST, LOG, TEMP datasets should not be shared. The solution is exit 16
>or ISPF Configuration Utility (add  to the DSNs).
>- I'm not sure about PDF edit recovery files.
>- Did I miss something?

-- gil

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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Carmen Vitullo]

IIRC that's correct, there's also a GRSRNL update required to not enq on 
the major name


remove qname(SYSIKJUA) from GRS or MIM

Carmen

On 11/5/2021 2:44 PM, Dave Jousma wrote:

On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 16:57:17 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka  
wrote:


I just re-read Configuring ISPF for Fun and Profit presentation and
found the following link:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~pinncons/TSO  LOGON with the Same Userid on
Multiple LPARs in a Sysplex.pdf

However the link is dead.
Does anyone have the presentation?
Or any other presentation on the topic.

My goal is to enable multiple TSO/ISPF logons within sysplex.
What I know:
- ISPPROF dataset can be shared now (it has changed)
- LIST, LOG, TEMP datasets should not be shared. The solution is exit 16
or ISPF Configuration Utility (add  to the DSNs).
- I'm not sure about PDF edit recovery files.
- Did I miss something?


We converted quite awhile back.  IIRC it was mainly running ISPCCONF

ISPF Multi-logon Profile Options
   Enter "/" to select option
   /  Multi-logon Profile Sharing
   /  Prompt for Profile ENQ LockoutENQ Lock Wait  . . . . . 1000
   /  Reset Shared Profile Settings ENQ Lock Retry Count . . 1

We didnt do anything with LOG/LIST other than adding the SEQ number

  Temporary Data Sets
Additional Qualifier . . ISP



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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Dave Jousma]

On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 16:57:17 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka  
wrote:

>I just re-read Configuring ISPF for Fun and Profit presentation and
>found the following link:
>http://home.roadrunner.com/~pinncons/TSO LOGON with the Same Userid on
>Multiple LPARs in a Sysplex.pdf
>
>However the link is dead.
>Does anyone have the presentation?
>Or any other presentation on the topic.
>
>My goal is to enable multiple TSO/ISPF logons within sysplex.
>What I know:
>- ISPPROF dataset can be shared now (it has changed)
>- LIST, LOG, TEMP datasets should not be shared. The solution is exit 16
>or ISPF Configuration Utility (add  to the DSNs).
>- I'm not sure about PDF edit recovery files.
>- Did I miss something?
>

We converted quite awhile back.  IIRC it was mainly running ISPCCONF

ISPF Multi-logon Profile Options 
  Enter "/" to select option 
  /  Multi-logon Profile Sharing 
  /  Prompt for Profile ENQ LockoutENQ Lock Wait  . . . . . 1000 
  /  Reset Shared Profile Settings ENQ Lock Retry Count . . 1

We didnt do anything with LOG/LIST other than adding the SEQ number

 Temporary Data Sets   
   Additional Qualifier . . ISP


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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Carmen Vitullo]

I can, just shoot me an email @ cvitu...@hughes.net

Carmen

On 11/5/2021 2:30 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:

On 11/5/21 12:58 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
I do have a DOC for z/os 1.12 if you want I can provide, this was 
from an IBM presentation


I would be interested in a copy of the document if you are emailing it 
to people.  Please and thank you.





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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Lionel B. Dyck]

This article from awhile ago may be helpful - not sure 

http://www.lbdsoftware.com/Logging_OnTo_Multiple_LPARS.pdf


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> On Nov 5, 2021, at 2:31 PM, Grant Taylor 
> <023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> On 11/5/21 12:58 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
>> I do have a DOC for z/os 1.12 if you want I can provide, this was from an 
>> IBM presentation
> 
> I would be interested in a copy of the document if you are emailing it to 
> people.  Please and thank you.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Grant Taylor]

On 11/5/21 12:58 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
I do have a DOC for z/os 1.12 if you want I can provide, this was from 
an IBM presentation


I would be interested in a copy of the document if you are emailing it 
to people.  Please and thank you.




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Re: Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Carmen Vitullo]

I do have a DOC for z/os 1.12 if you want I can provide, this was from 
an IBM presentation


On 11/5/2021 10:57 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
I just re-read Configuring ISPF for Fun and Profit presentation and 
found the following link:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~pinncons/TSO LOGON with the Same Userid on 
Multiple LPARs in a Sysplex.pdf


However the link is dead.
Does anyone have the presentation?
Or any other presentation on the topic.

My goal is to enable multiple TSO/ISPF logons within sysplex.
What I know:
- ISPPROF dataset can be shared now (it has changed)
- LIST, LOG, TEMP datasets should not be shared. The solution is exit 
16 or ISPF Configuration Utility (add  to the DSNs).

- I'm not sure about PDF edit recovery files.
- Did I miss something?


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Multiple TSO logons within sysplex

[Radoslaw Skorupka]

I just re-read Configuring ISPF for Fun and Profit presentation and 
found the following link:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~pinncons/TSO LOGON with the Same Userid on 
Multiple LPARs in a Sysplex.pdf


However the link is dead.
Does anyone have the presentation?
Or any other presentation on the topic.

My goal is to enable multiple TSO/ISPF logons within sysplex.
What I know:
- ISPPROF dataset can be shared now (it has changed)
- LIST, LOG, TEMP datasets should not be shared. The solution is exit 16 
or ISPF Configuration Utility (add  to the DSNs).

- I'm not sure about PDF edit recovery files.
- Did I miss something?

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Lodz, Poland

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