Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-05-20 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 4/9/2024 5:59 PM, David Spiegel wrote:

Hi Bob,
They were going to let it go, but, apparently Triangle Systems bought 
it in November '23.

Sorry for any increase in blood pressure.


That's backwards. Triangle (Jim Ott) had been the owner/developer 
forever and it was distributed by Fischer International.


At first Triangle issued a press release stating IOF was going to be 
sunset as a product.


Later, Triangle issued a press release extended IOF's end of life target 
date and stating it was looking for qualified buyers for IOF.


Eventually, Triangle issued a press release stating that Fischer had 
acquired IOF from them.


https://www.triangle-systems.com/images/Fischer_Acquires_IOF.pdf


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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Brian Westerman
This is a shamless plug, but you can do it "automagically" with the automation 
package, such that when the job ends the output of the job (whatever datasets 
of it you want) will go to whoever you want via email or SMS text message.  No 
JCL or SMF exits needed. 

You can send any part of a task or job output via email or text message to 
anyone.  That includes the JES datasets and even just the condition codes.  In 
fact, you can even base sending the output on  the maximum condition code of 
the task, or the code of any specific step in the task, all with no JCL changes 
needed.  

The part the sends the email/text msg is SyzMAIL/z, there are other parts that 
you can mix and match to build a complete automation package, and the cost is 
less than 10% of the cost for most other z/OS automation packages from IBM, 
CA(Broadcom) BMC, etc.  

Since IBM pretty much discontinued AO, there has been a scramble to migrate to 
our product(s), so now we have a lot of experience in how to move to ours from 
"theirs". 

WWW.SyzygyInc.com for more information.  There is also an additional discount 
from the already low cost for SHARE members, IBM-MAIN members, universities and 
government (federal and local) sites.

End of shameless plug.

Brian

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
 Triangle?  Aren't they the ones who published IOF 
back around Y2K?  Sounds awfully familiar.  But that was a long time ago; maybe 
I'm thinking of a different product.

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They were going to let it go, but, apparently Triangle Systems bought it in 
November '23.
Sorry for any increase in blood pressure.

--- On 2024-04-09 20:28, Bob Bridges wrote:
> Ack!  When?  Why??  IOF was always my favorite, though I haven't seen it in a 
> decade or two.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Spiegel
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 08:28
>
> IOF - But it's going away
>
> --- On 2024-04-09 08:15, Allan Staller wrote:
>> Several commercial products do this . CA-DELIVER, INFOPAC (probably a couple 
>> of more I am not familiar with.

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Lionel B Dyck
dsfs will definitely help

Lionel B. Dyck <
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> On Apr 9, 2024, at 8:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
> <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 08:42:37 +, גדי בן אבי wrote:
>> 
>> Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem.
>> The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually.
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how 
>> complicated it would be to write one?
>> 
> Willl DSFS help with this?
> 
> WHr does the DSFS User's Guide say about this?
> 
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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 08:42:37 +, גדי בן אבי wrote:
>
>Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem.
>The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually.
>
>Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how 
>complicated it would be to write one?
>
Willl DSFS help with this?

WHr does the DSFS User's Guide say about this?

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread David Spiegel

Hi Bob,
They were going to let it go, but, apparently Triangle Systems bought it 
in November '23.

Sorry for any increase in blood pressure.

Regards,
David

On 2024-04-09 20:28, Bob Bridges wrote:

Ack!  When?  Why??  IOF was always my favorite, though I haven't seen it in a 
decade or two.

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IOF - But it's going away

--- On 2024-04-09 08:15, Allan Staller wrote:

Several commercial products do this . CA-DELIVER, INFOPAC (probably a couple of 
more I am not familiar with.

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Ack!  When?  Why??  IOF was always my favorite, though I haven't seen it in a 
decade or two.

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IOF - But it's going away

--- On 2024-04-09 08:15, Allan Staller wrote:
> Several commercial products do this . CA-DELIVER, INFOPAC (probably a couple 
> of more I am not familiar with.

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 09:15:05 +, Rob Scott  wrote:

>I believe that Lionel Dyck has a simple SDSF REXX exec that does pretty much 
>what you require - it is called "SDSFXDD".
>
>It takes each SYSOUT dataset from a job and saves it as a member of a PDS.
>
I've done that, but targeting a UNIX hierarchy.

o Much richer name space.  I can use qualifier such as:
  jobname/jobid/stepname/procstepname/ddname/spoolID.

o Copies SYSINs also.

o I am not constrained to a single RECFM.

IEBGENER copies attributes of DD allocated by SDSF.

But I must guess at FILE DATA() based on DDNAME
overriding SYSUT1.

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread David Spiegel

IOF - But it's going away

On 2024-04-09 08:15, Allan Staller wrote:

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Several commercial products do this . CA-DELIVER, INFOPAC (probably a couple of 
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Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem.
The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually.

Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how 
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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Allan Staller
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Several commercial products do this . CA-DELIVER, INFOPAC (probably a couple of 
more I am not familiar with.

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread גדי בן אבי
Thanks Rob,
That is exactly what I was looking for.
Gadi

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I believe that Lionel Dyck has a simple SDSF REXX exec that does pretty much 
what you require - it is called "SDSFXDD".

It takes each SYSOUT dataset from a job and saves it as a member of a PDS.

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Rob Scott
I believe that Lionel Dyck has a simple SDSF REXX exec that does pretty much 
what you require - it is called "SDSFXDD".

It takes each SYSOUT dataset from a job and saves it as a member of a PDS.

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Hi,
Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem.
The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually.

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Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Itschak Mugzach
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> Hi,
> Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem.
> The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one
> individually.
>
> Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how
> complicated it would be to write one?
>
> Gadi
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Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,
Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem.
The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually.

Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how 
complicated it would be to write one?

Gadi

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