Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

2012-08-29 Thread willie bunter
The reason why I need to recycle the tape is to recoup some of the dsns.  These 
dsns were migrated without a backup.  This MGMTCLAS does backup the dsns, just 
migrate them after 20 days on disk. 




From: willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

By using FORCE would I lose the tape?  I remember once before I did that and I 
think it got deleted from HSM.  




From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE


HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOL(xx) FORCE ? What you have described is usually 
successful.

You might also recall the datasets past the damaged point individually. When 
all have been recalled HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOLUME(xx) FORCE 
This tape should then free up without a mount.

HTH,

snip
I am trying to recycle a damaged ML2 tape.  The RECYCLE rolls along however 
when it hits a particular dsn the recycle terminates.  I deleted the migrated 
dsn (ML2) so as to bypass the problem however it doesn't work.  Is there a way 
of having the RECYCLE bypass this troublesome dsn on the ML2 tape?
/snip

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Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

2012-08-29 Thread willie bunter
Thanks John forwarding the reply to my post.  
 
David,
 
Thanks for the clarification.  Yes, we are aware that is the risk taken when no 
backup taken or alternate tapes.
 
Thanks to all who responded.
 
Darren,
 
Could you take a look as to why I do not receive any of the replies to my post?
 
Thanks.


Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:08:44 AM
Subject: Fw: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE


Here is your post.  


- Forwarded Message -
From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
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Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

You have to accept the fact that you are going to lose some data. The Force 
parameter will allow you to recycle whatever data is readable onto another 
tape. Whatever is not readable is gone. You allowed migrated data apparently 
without having alternate tapes. Lost data due to a bad tape is the risk you 
took.


-Original Message-
From: willie bunter [mailto:williebun...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

By using FORCE would I lose the tape?  I remember once before I did that and I 
think it got deleted from HSM.  




From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE


HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOL(xx) FORCE ? What you have described is usually 
successful.

You might also recall the datasets past the damaged point individually. When 
all have been recalled HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOLUME(xx) FORCE 
This tape should then free up without a mount.

HTH,

snip
I am trying to recycle a damaged ML2 tape.  The RECYCLE rolls along however 
when it hits a particular dsn the recycle terminates.  I deleted the migrated 
dsn (ML2) so as to bypass the problem however it doesn't work.  Is there a way 
of having the RECYCLE bypass this troublesome dsn on the ML2 tape?
/snip

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Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

2012-08-29 Thread Staller, Allan
This will merely force the recycle to be executed. It (most likely) will delete 
the volume from HSM (depends on if you are using HSM volume pools).
However, if all of the datasets have been recalled, there is no data loss.

HTH,

snip

By using FORCE would I lose the tape?  I remember once before I did that and I 
think it got deleted from HSM.  



HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOL(xx) FORCE ? What you have described is usually 
successful.

You might also recall the datasets past the damaged point individually. When 
all have been recalled HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOLUME(xx) FORCE 
This tape should then free up without a mount.

HTH,

snip
I am trying to recycle a damaged ML2 tape.  The RECYCLE rolls along however 
when it hits a particular dsn the recycle terminates.  I deleted the migrated 
dsn (ML2) so as to bypass the problem however it doesn't work.  Is there a way 
of having the RECYCLE bypass this troublesome dsn on the ML2 tape?
/snip

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QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

2012-08-28 Thread willie bunter
Hallo All,
 
I am trying to recycle a damaged ML2 tape.  The RECYCLE rolls along however 
when it hits a particular dsn the recycle terminates.  I deleted the migrated 
dsn (ML2) so as to bypass the problem however it doesn't work.  Is there a way 
of having the RECYCLE bypass this troublesome dsn on the ML2 tape?
 
Thanks for your comments in advance. 

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Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

2012-08-28 Thread willie bunter
By using FORCE would I lose the tape?  I remember once before I did that and I 
think it got deleted from HSM.  




From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE


HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOL(xx) FORCE ? What you have described is usually 
successful.

You might also recall the datasets past the damaged point individually. When 
all have been recalled HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOLUME(xx) FORCE 
This tape should then free up without a mount.

HTH,

snip
I am trying to recycle a damaged ML2 tape.  The RECYCLE rolls along however 
when it hits a particular dsn the recycle terminates.  I deleted the migrated 
dsn (ML2) so as to bypass the problem however it doesn't work.  Is there a way 
of having the RECYCLE bypass this troublesome dsn on the ML2 tape?
/snip

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