Re: A real light bulb moment [for 3420 tape drives] | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-11-21 Thread Charles Mills
I would personally tend to question the posting here of links to weekly 
stories. If I (for one) wanted to subscribe to Computerworld I would.

Charles


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So, no reflection on Mark for posting, but: pretty boring story. Hardware
problem was hard to diagnose. This is special?

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Re: A real light bulb moment [for 3420 tape drives] | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:06:19 -0500, zMan wrote:

>So, no reflection on Mark for posting, but: pretty boring story. Hardware
>problem was hard to diagnose. This is special?
>
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:21:59 -0500, Mark Regan wrote:

>https://www.computerworld.com/article/3447337/a-real-light-bulb-moment.html
>
Alas, in the day there was little microcode and no lucid diagnosis of
failure to detect BOT.  I wonder what did?  Just pass a few dozen
meters of leader and turn on a red light?

>On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:52 PM Seymour J Metz wrote:
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>> https://jhs-shop.com/products/copy-of-wizard-of-id-print-pillage-then-burn

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Re: A real light bulb moment [for 3420 tape drives] | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-11-20 Thread zMan
Ah. Well, yeah. But since light bulb presumably LOOKED OK to the eye, not
clear they didn't actually do that. We've all been there, wound up
Easter-egging and fixing it thus. But that's just debugging.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:16 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> What was special was not checking the easy things first, hence pillage
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> So, no reflection on Mark for posting, but: pretty boring story. Hardware
> problem was hard to diagnose. This is special?
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:52 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
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Re: A real light bulb moment [for 3420 tape drives] | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-11-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
What was special was not checking the easy things first, hence pillage then 
burn.


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So, no reflection on Mark for posting, but: pretty boring story. Hardware
problem was hard to diagnose. This is special?

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:52 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1aexAuvqb-0prO4a6Hdd11q6I5RCOtqNIDHirfqdEh4gsDWRxMaN8-V3htPZfgTdSLbhz25FW0Sc6sCLgyoR4IvpQ2EHmMLX3SoEZy8kwI1MVG64crTUCwjXqL2OKipT5eD9PSAFZtx5D82a3tmGzbpwpqnX7AA1eu8v9kOSKFKUlObAOdj1kn1BdfC5Y8rZSYDh5dNZsPnFNN23KwMmcJGhhquEgQK_qibznsHp8stmAe_-y5A47GT0d2Xg0Y0v_wQtRXZaYIln3v6XAVa8WRlTHvZyERCns24mffqki-AJ2bRzsO9HMEPwVIQL-z-SVi0N3mjBW7Cvl_73X8-UbgkllntBmJ7vw_EkJXV4x1r76Jqkj_YJdKvDbLY7_nzMAkod5KLwrGVSHh0ZMFondLya9BzPz7sAkRmWaZXYaiTT3yz0KFH4bGhka5WebxFyC/https%3A%2F%2Fjhs-shop.com%2Fproducts%2Fcopy-of-wizard-of-id-print-pillage-then-burn
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> Regards,
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Re: A real light bulb moment [for 3420 tape drives] | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-11-20 Thread zMan
So, no reflection on Mark for posting, but: pretty boring story. Hardware
problem was hard to diagnose. This is special?

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:52 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> https://jhs-shop.com/products/copy-of-wizard-of-id-print-pillage-then-burn
>
>
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> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
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Re: A real light bulb moment [for 3420 tape drives] | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-11-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
https://jhs-shop.com/products/copy-of-wizard-of-id-print-pillage-then-burn


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Subject: Fwd: A real light bulb moment [for 3420 tape drives] | Computerworld 
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Nationwide Insurance, Retired






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