Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: ISPF 3.2 (allocate) does not honor SDB

2015-09-08 Thread Clark Morris
On 7 Sep 2015 22:31:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>>No.  
>>Check the archives ("Default System BLKSIZE for PDSE" in Oct 2006)  
>>"Partitioned Data Set Extended Usage Guide" ( 
>>http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246106.html?Open ) Figure 10-32 shows 
>>a PDSE created 2004-11-04 with SMS.IND=R (SDB) and block size 32720. 
>
>
>How embarrassing. I understand I'm at an age where one starts to forget. 
>However, I don't understand I just never recognized this behaviour. Anyway, 
>thanks for the pointer to that thread. Interesting reading.

What is  the track utilization for a PDSE blocksize of 32760?  What is
the physical blocksize (CISIZE)?

Clark Morris

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Re: AW: Re: ISPF 3.2 (allocate) does not honor SDB

2015-09-07 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 17:59:22 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

>>What type of dataset? PS, PO, PDSE, ...? The optimal block size for PDSE 
>>(FB-80, DSNTYPE=LIBRARY) is 32720.
>
>Yes, its about PDSEs. Kind a makes sense, sure. However I have been using 
>PDSEs for a long time and don't seem to remeber to have seen this. Must have 
>been blind (meaning I didn't care to look to carefully), obviously.
>
>
>Did this change with z/OS V2.1?
>

No. 
Check the archives ("Default System BLKSIZE for PDSE" in Oct 2006) 
"Partitioned Data Set Extended Usage Guide" ( 
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246106.html?Open ) Figure 10-32 shows a 
PDSE created 2004-11-04 with SMS.IND=R (SDB) and block size 32720.

Norbert Friemel

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Re: AW: Re: ISPF 3.2 (allocate) does not honor SDB

2015-09-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 17:59:22 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

>>What type of dataset? PS, PO, PDSE, ...? The optimal block size for PDSE 
>>(FB-80, DSNTYPE=LIBRARY) is 32720.
>
>Yes, its about PDSEs. Kind a makes sense, sure. However I have been using 
>PDSEs for a long time and don't seem to remeber to have seen this. Must have 
>been blind (meaning I didn't care to look to carefully), obviously.
> 
And the BLKSIZE is largely fictitious:  You can OPEN with any BLKSIZE that's a
multiple of 80 and process members without error.  I suspect it's saved only to
appease legacy programs that require that it be supplied in the label.

-- gil

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AW: Re: AW: Re: ISPF 3.2 (allocate) does not honor SDB

2015-09-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>No.
>Check the archives ("Default System BLKSIZE for PDSE" in Oct 2006)
>"Partitioned Data Set Extended Usage Guide" ( 
>http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246106.html?Open ) Figure 10-32 shows 
>a PDSE created 2004-11-04 with SMS.IND=R (SDB) and block size 32720.


How embarrassing. I understand I'm at an age where one starts to forget. 
However, I don't understand I just never recognized this behaviour. Anyway, 
thanks for the pointer to that thread. Interesting reading.


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Peter Hunkeler



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