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And most of the crap on this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with IBM-Main! Take your political pontificating somewhere else!!! Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. I'm going to have to check my communist sources at the University. When is trump being reinstated? On Monday, August 23, 2021, 08:02:33 AM EDT, Joe Monk wrote: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/five-guantanamo-detainees-to-be-exchanged-for-bergdahl/ https://abcnews.go.com/International/released-guantanamo-detainees-killed-americans-officials/story?id=39734164 https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bowe-bergdahl-released/who-are-5-guantanamo-detainees-swapped-exchange-bergdahl-n119376 Sorry dude, not murdoch owned... Joe On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:47 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I forgot only Murdoch owned sources are factual. Oh, and the Hindu Times. > > On Monday, August 23, 2021, 07:41:29 AM EDT, Joe Monk < >joemon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > First off ... politifact. Enough said. Not a credible source. > > Second, look up the Gitmo 5. The actual guys in charge, not superficial. > > > https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/how-khairullah-khairkhwa-rel > eased-from-guantanamo-bay-planned-taliban-s-return-101629182398683.htm > l > > Joe > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:20 AM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Ooops. PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role > > in releasing key Taliban leader > > > > | > > | > > | > > | | | > > > > | > > > > | > > | > > | | > > PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in > > releasing key Taliban leader > > > > As the Taliban celebrated its rapid takeover of Afghanistan, blame > > for > the > > fall of the U.S.-backed Afghan government and/ > > | | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:07 PM, Joe Monk > > wrote: > > > > Actually it was Obama who released all the Taliban, in the trade for > > the traitor Bergdahl. > > > > Get your facts straight. > > > > > > > https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo > -in-2014-swap-by-obama/ > > > > Joe > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Bill Johnson < > > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released > > >5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving > > >Americans > > behind. > > > Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls > > > ill > and > > > Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going > > pleases > > > me. > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas < > > >0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! > > > Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO > troops > > > there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! > > > Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is > > probably > > > going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf > > > Of Bill Johnson > > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > > > > > Ooooh, another trumper. > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike < > wayn...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* > > > > > > Trolls have that effect. > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < > > > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > &g
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time.
Classification: Confidential While I agree completely with what you said, please leave politics off the list. Thank you -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Thomas Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don't click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which is a pretty high amount. In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for 92% voted...impossible. Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is in effect zero. In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > to prove it can't. What I actually said was: "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in one line." I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a good way of estimating complexity. The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators (all those greek characters) were represented by operator names, or even function names (though they are not functions) I do not think anyone could guess what those lines do. There's a short line of code (only 17 characters!) that determines "all the prime numbers up to R". Search (for the text in quotes) on the quite long webpage at https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcomp
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time.
I'm going to have to check my communist sources at the University. When is trump being reinstated? On Monday, August 23, 2021, 08:02:33 AM EDT, Joe Monk wrote: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/five-guantanamo-detainees-to-be-exchanged-for-bergdahl/ https://abcnews.go.com/International/released-guantanamo-detainees-killed-americans-officials/story?id=39734164 https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bowe-bergdahl-released/who-are-5-guantanamo-detainees-swapped-exchange-bergdahl-n119376 Sorry dude, not murdoch owned... Joe On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:47 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I forgot only Murdoch owned sources are factual. Oh, and the Hindu Times. > > On Monday, August 23, 2021, 07:41:29 AM EDT, Joe Monk < > joemon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > First off ... politifact. Enough said. Not a credible source. > > Second, look up the Gitmo 5. The actual guys in charge, not superficial. > > > https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/how-khairullah-khairkhwa-released-from-guantanamo-bay-planned-taliban-s-return-101629182398683.html > > Joe > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:20 AM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Ooops. PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in > > releasing key Taliban leader > > > > | > > | > > | > > | | | > > > > | > > > > | > > | > > | | > > PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in releasing > > key Taliban leader > > > > As the Taliban celebrated its rapid takeover of Afghanistan, blame for > the > > fall of the U.S.-backed Afghan government and/ > > | | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:07 PM, Joe Monk > > wrote: > > > > Actually it was Obama who released all the Taliban, in the trade for the > > traitor Bergdahl. > > > > Get your facts straight. > > > > > > > https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/ > > > > Joe > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Bill Johnson < > > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 > > > Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans > > behind. > > > Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill > and > > > Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going > > pleases > > > me. > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas < > > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! > > > Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO > troops > > > there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! > > > Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is > > probably > > > going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf > > > Of Bill Johnson > > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > > > > > Ooooh, another trumper. > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike < > wayn...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* > > > > > > Trolls have that effect. > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < > > > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > > > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > >
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/five-guantanamo-detainees-to-be-exchanged-for-bergdahl/ https://abcnews.go.com/International/released-guantanamo-detainees-killed-americans-officials/story?id=39734164 https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bowe-bergdahl-released/who-are-5-guantanamo-detainees-swapped-exchange-bergdahl-n119376 Sorry dude, not murdoch owned... Joe On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:47 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I forgot only Murdoch owned sources are factual. Oh, and the Hindu Times. > > On Monday, August 23, 2021, 07:41:29 AM EDT, Joe Monk < > joemon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > First off ... politifact. Enough said. Not a credible source. > > Second, look up the Gitmo 5. The actual guys in charge, not superficial. > > > https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/how-khairullah-khairkhwa-released-from-guantanamo-bay-planned-taliban-s-return-101629182398683.html > > Joe > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:20 AM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Ooops. PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in > > releasing key Taliban leader > > > > | > > | > > | > > | || > > > >| > > > > | > > | > > | | > > PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in releasing > > key Taliban leader > > > > As the Taliban celebrated its rapid takeover of Afghanistan, blame for > the > > fall of the U.S.-backed Afghan government and/ > > | | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:07 PM, Joe Monk > > wrote: > > > > Actually it was Obama who released all the Taliban, in the trade for the > > traitor Bergdahl. > > > > Get your facts straight. > > > > > > > https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/ > > > > Joe > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Bill Johnson < > > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 > > > Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans > > behind. > > > Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill > and > > > Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going > > pleases > > > me. > > > > > >On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas < > > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! > > > Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO > troops > > > there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! > > > Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is > > probably > > > going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf > > > Of Bill Johnson > > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > > > > > Ooooh, another trumper. > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike < > wayn...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* > > > > > > Trolls have that effect. > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < > > > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > > > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > > > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > > > > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6
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I forgot only Murdoch owned sources are factual. Oh, and the Hindu Times. On Monday, August 23, 2021, 07:41:29 AM EDT, Joe Monk wrote: First off ... politifact. Enough said. Not a credible source. Second, look up the Gitmo 5. The actual guys in charge, not superficial. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/how-khairullah-khairkhwa-released-from-guantanamo-bay-planned-taliban-s-return-101629182398683.html Joe On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:20 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Ooops. PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in > releasing key Taliban leader > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in releasing > key Taliban leader > > As the Taliban celebrated its rapid takeover of Afghanistan, blame for the > fall of the U.S.-backed Afghan government and/ > | | > > | > > | > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:07 PM, Joe Monk > wrote: > > Actually it was Obama who released all the Taliban, in the trade for the > traitor Bergdahl. > > Get your facts straight. > > > https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/ > > Joe > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 > > Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans > behind. > > Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and > > Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going > pleases > > me. > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas < > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! > > Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops > > there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! > > Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is > probably > > going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tom > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > > Of Bill Johnson > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > > > Ooooh, another trumper. > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike > > > wrote: > > > > *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* > > > > Trolls have that effect. > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < > > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > > > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > > > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > > > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > > > > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > > > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > > > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > > > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > > > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > > > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > > > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will > > happen. > > > > > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > > > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > > > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > > > > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > > > Your PC rec
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time.
First off ... politifact. Enough said. Not a credible source. Second, look up the Gitmo 5. The actual guys in charge, not superficial. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/how-khairullah-khairkhwa-released-from-guantanamo-bay-planned-taliban-s-return-101629182398683.html Joe On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:20 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Ooops. PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in > releasing key Taliban leader > > | > | > | > | || > >| > > | > | > | | > PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in releasing > key Taliban leader > > As the Taliban celebrated its rapid takeover of Afghanistan, blame for the > fall of the U.S.-backed Afghan government and > | | > > | > > | > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:07 PM, Joe Monk > wrote: > > Actually it was Obama who released all the Taliban, in the trade for the > traitor Bergdahl. > > Get your facts straight. > > > https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/ > > Joe > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 > > Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans > behind. > > Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and > > Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going > pleases > > me. > > > >On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas < > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! > > Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops > > there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! > > Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is > probably > > going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tom > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > > Of Bill Johnson > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > > > Ooooh, another trumper. > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike > > > wrote: > > > > *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* > > > > Trolls have that effect. > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < > > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > > > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > > > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > > > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > > > > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > > > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > > > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > > > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > > > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > > > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > > > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will > > happen. > > > > > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > > > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > > > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > > > > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > > > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > > > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > &g
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My gas prices are $2.95 a gallon. Same as in 2018. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 9:47 PM, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Typical Liberal.trying your best to spin it into Trumps fault...all Trump tried to do is get the Afgan folks and the Taliban folks to work out a deal so we could leave and they could live together...but they couldn't agree...so we were still there. I don't remember under Trump cargo planes taking off from Kabul with folks hanging off of them...and falling off and dying, but I do remember seeing it on TV last weekand I also have family stuck over there, so yes I know who got out and whos been left to find your own way out. Also don't remember British holding Trump in contempt for leaving their troops there, but I do remember this happening under Biden's watch last week. And "if he falls ill"...i guess you've never been around someone with Dementia...he couldn't even find the front door to the white house last weekreally...i guess Trump hid it from him...WAKE UP !!! It pleases me to see even CNN turn on him now...i love it. By the way, how are your gas prices ?? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases me. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden
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$4.25 a gallon in DC last week. Steve Gorham, Baltimore -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Agree. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 9:50 PM, Ron Wells <02ebc63ff5ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Stop the politics..get enough of it on news BS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Thomas Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** Typical Liberal.trying your best to spin it into Trumps fault...all Trump tried to do is get the Afgan folks and the Taliban folks to work out a deal so we could leave and they could live together...but they couldn't agree...so we were still there. I don't remember under Trump cargo planes taking off from Kabul with folks hanging off of them...and falling off and dying, but I do remember seeing it on TV last weekand I also have family stuck over there, so yes I know who got out and whos been left to find your own way out. Also don't remember British holding Trump in contempt for leaving their troops there, but I do remember this happening under Biden's watch last week. And "if he falls ill"...i guess you've never been around someone with Dementia...he couldn't even find the front door to the white house last weekreally...i guess Trump hid it from him...WAKE UP !!! It pleases me to see even CNN turn on him now...i love it. By the way, how are your gas prices ?? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases me. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, c
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My dad had dementia. Biden does not. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 9:47 PM, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Typical Liberal.trying your best to spin it into Trumps fault...all Trump tried to do is get the Afgan folks and the Taliban folks to work out a deal so we could leave and they could live together...but they couldn't agree...so we were still there. I don't remember under Trump cargo planes taking off from Kabul with folks hanging off of them...and falling off and dying, but I do remember seeing it on TV last weekand I also have family stuck over there, so yes I know who got out and whos been left to find your own way out. Also don't remember British holding Trump in contempt for leaving their troops there, but I do remember this happening under Biden's watch last week. And "if he falls ill"...i guess you've never been around someone with Dementia...he couldn't even find the front door to the white house last weekreally...i guess Trump hid it from him...WAKE UP !!! It pleases me to see even CNN turn on him now...i love it. By the way, how are your gas prices ?? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases me. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden
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At least he doesn't support a president who was in bed with a soviet secret agent. Or did you think that validimir puta was a liberal? Also, you clearly haven't got any idea what communism is. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Savor, Thomas [0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Tell me whats wrong.typical dumbass liberal that doesn't have ANY facts...just that its wrongwhere the fuck is it wrong. School is where YOU went off the rails...nothing but teaching Communism bullshit. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Clifford Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Dead wrong. Typical trumpette. Back to school. On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 7:27 PM Savor, Thomas < 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of > course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent > and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, > voter fraud is in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when > > asked to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > &quo
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Agree. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 9:50 PM, Ron Wells <02ebc63ff5ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Stop the politics..get enough of it on news BS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Thomas Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** Typical Liberal.trying your best to spin it into Trumps fault...all Trump tried to do is get the Afgan folks and the Taliban folks to work out a deal so we could leave and they could live together...but they couldn't agree...so we were still there. I don't remember under Trump cargo planes taking off from Kabul with folks hanging off of them...and falling off and dying, but I do remember seeing it on TV last weekand I also have family stuck over there, so yes I know who got out and whos been left to find your own way out. Also don't remember British holding Trump in contempt for leaving their troops there, but I do remember this happening under Biden's watch last week. And "if he falls ill"...i guess you've never been around someone with Dementia...he couldn't even find the front door to the white house last weekreally...i guess Trump hid it from him...WAKE UP !!! It pleases me to see even CNN turn on him now...i love it. By the way, how are your gas prices ?? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases me. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we
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Ooops. PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in releasing key Taliban leader | | | | || | | | | | PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in releasing key Taliban leader As the Taliban celebrated its rapid takeover of Afghanistan, blame for the fall of the U.S.-backed Afghan government and | | | | Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:07 PM, Joe Monk wrote: Actually it was Obama who released all the Taliban, in the trade for the traitor Bergdahl. Get your facts straight. https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/ Joe On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 > Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. > Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and > Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases > me. > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! > Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops > there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! > Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably > going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > Ooooh, another trumper. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike > wrote: > > *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* > > Trolls have that effect. > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will > happen. > > > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > > for 92% voted...impossible. > > > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand > outside. &g
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Actually it was Obama who released all the Taliban, in the trade for the traitor Bergdahl. Get your facts straight. https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/ Joe On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 > Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. > Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and > Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases > me. > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! > Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops > there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! > Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably > going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > Ooooh, another trumper. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike > wrote: > > *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* > > Trolls have that effect. > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will > happen. > > > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > > for 92% voted...impossible. > > > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand > outside. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tom > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not > > click links or open attachments unless you recogni
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Stop the politics..get enough of it on news BS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Thomas Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** Typical Liberal.trying your best to spin it into Trumps fault...all Trump tried to do is get the Afgan folks and the Taliban folks to work out a deal so we could leave and they could live together...but they couldn't agree...so we were still there. I don't remember under Trump cargo planes taking off from Kabul with folks hanging off of them...and falling off and dying, but I do remember seeing it on TV last weekand I also have family stuck over there, so yes I know who got out and whos been left to find your own way out. Also don't remember British holding Trump in contempt for leaving their troops there, but I do remember this happening under Biden's watch last week. And "if he falls ill"...i guess you've never been around someone with Dementia...he couldn't even find the front door to the white house last weekreally...i guess Trump hid it from him...WAKE UP !!! It pleases me to see even CNN turn on him now...i love it. By the way, how are your gas prices ?? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases me. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020
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Typical Liberal.trying your best to spin it into Trumps fault...all Trump tried to do is get the Afgan folks and the Taliban folks to work out a deal so we could leave and they could live together...but they couldn't agree...so we were still there. I don't remember under Trump cargo planes taking off from Kabul with folks hanging off of them...and falling off and dying, but I do remember seeing it on TV last weekand I also have family stuck over there, so yes I know who got out and whos been left to find your own way out. Also don't remember British holding Trump in contempt for leaving their troops there, but I do remember this happening under Biden's watch last week. And "if he falls ill"...i guess you've never been around someone with Dementia...he couldn't even find the front door to the white house last weekreally...i guess Trump hid it from him...WAKE UP !!! It pleases me to see even CNN turn on him now...i love it. By the way, how are your gas prices ?? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases me. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand
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Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released 5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving Americans behind. Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls ill and Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going pleases me. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of > course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent > and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, > voter fraud is in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >
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A cousin of mine lived in Atlanta. Correct. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 07:51:35 PM EDT, Joe Monk wrote: Fulton County is 100% Democrat, just like Maricopa County. Joe On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:48 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > We know Arizona was fraud, Georgia was fraud. States run by Republicans. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election > was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was > fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where > terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is > heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is > wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like > under Bush, the > GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your > PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got > into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions > test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass > emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the > Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which > is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for > 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt > get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up > Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -----Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course > not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point > to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is > in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > > to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in > one line." > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, > just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. > > I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a > good way of estimating complexity. > > The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I > think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) > be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators > (all those greek charac
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Tom believes the election was stolen. Without even 1 incidence of actual proof/facts. My old commie school is run by a trumper currently. Of course not always. For most of its history it was run by normal people who believed in facts and science. On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:09:34 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Tell me whats wrong.typical dumbass liberal that doesn't have ANY facts...just that its wrongwhere the fuck is it wrong. School is where YOU went off the rails...nothing but teaching Communism bullshit. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Clifford Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Dead wrong. Typical trumpette. Back to school. On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 7:27 PM Savor, Thomas < 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of > course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent > and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, > voter fraud is in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when > > asked to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written > in one line." > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex > program
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Don't feed the trolls. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Clifford Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Dead wrong. Typical trumpette. Back to school. On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 7:27 PM Savor, Thomas < 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election > was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was > fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where > terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is > heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is > wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like > under Bush, the > GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your > PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got > into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions > test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass > emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the > Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which > is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for > 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt > get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up > Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course > not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point > to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is > in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > > to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in > one line." > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, > just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. > > I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a > good way of estimating complexity. > > The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I > think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) > be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators > (all those greek characters) were represented by operator names, or even > function names (though they are not functio
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Tell me whats wrong.typical dumbass liberal that doesn't have ANY facts...just that its wrongwhere the fuck is it wrong. School is where YOU went off the rails...nothing but teaching Communism bullshit. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Clifford Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Dead wrong. Typical trumpette. Back to school. On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 7:27 PM Savor, Thomas < 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of > course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent > and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, > voter fraud is in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when > > asked to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written > in one line." > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex > program, just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. > > I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not > a good way of estimating complexity. > > The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both > (I > think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, > and (b) be hard to understand at a glance.
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And where was the fraud ?? of course, Fulton County. The swamp is deep. I don't care who wins anything (well actually I do), but I just want it to be fair. And just because Arizona and Georgia are GOP (the Governors)...not all Counties are...Fulton for sure isn't. Guys, think about this...they allowed mail-in ballots WITHOUT verifying the signatureSeriously Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joe Monk Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Fulton County is 100% Democrat, just like Maricopa County. Joe On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:48 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > We know Arizona was fraud, Georgia was fraud. States run by Republicans. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -----Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of > course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent > and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, > voter fraud is in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when > > asked to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written > in one line." > > I /did not/ say t
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Dead wrong. Typical trumpette. Back to school. On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 7:27 PM Savor, Thomas < 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election > was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was > fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where > terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is > heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is > wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like > under Bush, the > GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your > PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got > into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions > test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass > emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the > Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which > is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for > 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt > get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up > Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course > not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point > to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is > in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > > to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in > one line." > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, > just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. > > I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a > good way of estimating complexity. > > The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I > think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) > be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators > (all those greek characters) were represented by operator names, or even > function names (though they are not functions) I do not think anyone could > guess what those lines do. > > There's a short line of code (only 17 characters!) that determines "all > the prime numbers up to R". Search (for the text in quotes) on the quite > long webpage at > > > https://eur02.safelinks.protecti
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Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!! Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO troops there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!! Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is probably going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia > was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine > is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law > is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't > like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into > emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to > pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to > normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% > voted...which is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, > for 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here > in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -----Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of > course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent > and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, > voter fraud is in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when > > asked to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written >in one line." &g
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Fulton County is 100% Democrat, just like Maricopa County. Joe On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:48 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > We know Arizona was fraud, Georgia was fraud. States run by Republicans. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election > was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was > fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where > terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is > heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is > wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like > under Bush, the > GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your > PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got > into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions > test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass > emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the > Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which > is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for > 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt > get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up > Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -----Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course > not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point > to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is > in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > > to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in > one line." > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, > just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. > > I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a > good way of estimating complexity. > > The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I > think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) > be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators > (all those greek characters) were represented by operator names, or even > function names (though they are not f
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We know Arizona was fraud, Georgia was fraud. States run by Republicans. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which is a pretty high amount. In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for 92% voted...impossible. Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is in effect zero. In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > to prove it can't. What I actually said was: "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in one line." I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a good way of estimating complexity. The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators (all those greek characters) were represented by operator names, or even function names (though they are not functions) I do not think anyone could guess what those lines do. There's a short line of code (only 17 characters!) that determines "all the prime numbers up to R". Search (for the text in quotes) on the quite long webpage at https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcomputerhistory.org%2Fblog%2Fthe-apl-programming-language-source-code%2F=04%7C01%7Cthomas.savor%40fisglobal.com%7C604acc7f24084e289bde08d965bd7f52%7Ce3ff91d834c84b15a0b418910a6ac575%7C0%7C0%7C637652686827582443%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=Y8SIQh32uaTFYS0FywdIiDm5uWdiM8cjh7PY%2Ffvct08%3D=0
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Ooooh, another trumper. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *I knew I’d trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I’d trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election > was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was > fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where > terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is > heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is > wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like > under Bush, the > GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your > PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got > into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions > test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass > emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the > Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which > is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for > 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt > get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up > Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -----Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course > not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point > to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is > in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > > to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in > one line." > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, > just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. > > I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a > good way of estimating complexity. > > The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I > think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) > be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators > (all those greek characters) were represented by ope
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*I knew I’d trigger the trumpers here.* Trolls have that effect. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I knew I’d trigger the trumpers here. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas < > 0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning." > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long > time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election > was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was > fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where > terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is > heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is > wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper > ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like > under Bush, the > GOP doesn't like it now. > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your > PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got > into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions > test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass > emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things > correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting > machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the > Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which > is a pretty high amount. > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for > 92% voted...impossible. > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt > get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up > Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -----Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine > complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course > not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point > to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is > in effect zero. > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts > Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud > "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances > nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less > likely than getting hit by lightning. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll < > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > > to prove it can't. > > What I actually said was: > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in > one line." > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, > just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. > > I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a > good way of estimating complexity. > > The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I > think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) > be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators > (all those greek characters) were represented by operator names, or even > function names (though they are not functions) I do not think anyone cou
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I knew I’d trigger the trumpers here. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas <0330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which is a pretty high amount. In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for 92% voted...impossible. Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is in effect zero. In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > to prove it can't. What I actually said was: "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in one line." I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a good way of estimating complexity. The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators (all those greek characters) were represented by operator names, or even function names (though they are not functions) I do not think anyone could guess what those lines do. There's a short line of code (only 17 characters!) that determines "all the prime numbers up to R". Search (for the text in quotes) on the quite long webpage at https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcomputerhistory.org%2Fblog%2Fthe-apl-programming-language-source-code%2F=04%7C01%7Cthomas.savor%40fisglobal.com%7C604acc7f24084e289bde08d965bd7f52%7Ce3ff91d834c84b15a0b418910a6ac575%7C0%7C0%7C637652686827582443%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=Y8SIQh32uaTFYS0FywdIiDm5uWdiM8cjh7PY%2Ffvct08%3D=0 to see it, with an explanation there
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"In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning." That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long time.MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud, Georgia was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit Fulton County where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud machine is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the Georgia voting law is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN. But I know nothing will happen. We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to paper ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the Rats didn't like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now. You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it. Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right. Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged into emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the settings to pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer reset system back to normal. So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do things correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded" settingsvoting machines by Law, once certified, are supposed to be dis-connected from the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona. There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60% voted...which is a pretty high amount. In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for Trump, for 92% voted...impossible. Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally here in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about 50-60 thousand outside. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time. CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to determine complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100% correlation, of course not. Reminds me of people who say that elections are fraudulent and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the reality is, voter fraud is in effect zero. In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.6 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.04 percent - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote: > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but when asked > to prove it can't. What I actually said was: "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be written in one line." I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex program, just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL. I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program was not a good way of estimating complexity. The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are both (I think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a lot, and (b) be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the individual APL operators (all those greek characters) were represented by operator names, or even function names (though they are not functions) I do not think anyone could guess what those lines do. There's a short line of code (only 17 characters!) that determines "all the prime numbers up to R". Search (for the text in quotes) on the quite long webpage at https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcomputerhistory.org%2Fblog%2Fthe-apl-programming-language-source-code%2Fdata=04%7C01%7Cthomas.savor%40fisglobal.com%7C604acc7f24084e289bde08d965bd7f52%7Ce3ff91d834c84b15a0b418910a6ac575%7C0%7C0%7C637652686827582443%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Y8SIQh32uaTFYS0FywdIiDm5uWdiM8cjh7PY%2Ffvct08%3Dreserved=0 to see it, with an explanation there of how that program works. It's a whole lot less easy to understand than the equivalent written in, say COBOL. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. --
