Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:43:23 +0200, R.S. wrote: Has anyone a photo of 3088? https://ia902603.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/29/items/bitsavers_ibm370feGCEquipmentInstallationPhysicalPlanningMar_20235151/GC22-7064-13_Input_Output_Equipment_Installation_Physical_Planning_Mar93_jp2.zipfile=GC22-7064-13_Input_Output_Equipment_Installation_Physical_Planning_Mar93_jp2/GC22-7064-13_Input_Output_Equipment_Installation_Physical_Planning_Mar93_0023.jp2scale=4rotate=0 or page 24 (3088-1) http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/fe/GC22-7064-13_Input_Output_Equipment_Installation_Physical_Planning_Mar93.pdf Norbert Friemel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
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Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
Now I remember! In 1981, I had to go in when I was on nights (mornings) and switch all the printers over. - -teD - Original Message From: Norman.Hollander Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 12:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) 3088 Multi-System Channel-to-Channel I/O Control Unit. Bus and Tag, connecting 4 CPUs (IIRC). We used these (had to have 2 for redundancy) for JES2, VTAM, and CA-MIM connectivity. Also used to connect to VM systems (PVM, RSCS, and CA-MIM). Obsoleted by ESCON and Directors. May have a picture somewhere with a 3088 and 9032 (ESCON director). Without the 3088, you needed many dedicated channels on each processor. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) Yep. That's it. Thanks for remembering. We were still using one when I left my previous position in 1995 with a 3090 400E processor. Mark Jacobs Gross, Randall [PRI-1PP] mailto:randy.gr...@primerica.com June 12, 2015 at 10:05 AM IBM 3088 CTC Global Resource Serialization -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Mark Jacobs - Listserv mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com June 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Elardus Engelbrecht mailto:elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za June 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM I have watched that nice video, bringing back memories of those 3800, 3380, 3090, 3420 and such animals. But what the four letter word is a 'GRS Control Unit'? Searches on IBM webpages (and history webpages) gave me just all [useless] info about GRS or CONTROL or UNIT, but not specific details about that device. Anyone having a clue what device is it? Is it the grandfather of the XCF and such things? TIA! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original message as an attachment to 'phish...@timeinc.com'. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Lt. Gen. David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
3088 Multi-System Channel-to-Channel I/O Control Unit. Bus and Tag, connecting 4 CPUs (IIRC). We used these (had to have 2 for redundancy) for JES2, VTAM, and CA-MIM connectivity. Also used to connect to VM systems (PVM, RSCS, and CA-MIM). Obsoleted by ESCON and Directors. May have a picture somewhere with a 3088 and 9032 (ESCON director). Without the 3088, you needed many dedicated channels on each processor. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) Yep. That's it. Thanks for remembering. We were still using one when I left my previous position in 1995 with a 3090 400E processor. Mark Jacobs Gross, Randall [PRI-1PP] mailto:randy.gr...@primerica.com June 12, 2015 at 10:05 AM IBM 3088 CTC Global Resource Serialization -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Mark Jacobs - Listserv mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com June 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Elardus Engelbrecht mailto:elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za June 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM I have watched that nice video, bringing back memories of those 3800, 3380, 3090, 3420 and such animals. But what the four letter word is a 'GRS Control Unit'? Searches on IBM webpages (and history webpages) gave me just all [useless] info about GRS or CONTROL or UNIT, but not specific details about that device. Anyone having a clue what device is it? Is it the grandfather of the XCF and such things? TIA! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original message as an attachment to 'phish...@timeinc.com'. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Lt. Gen. David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
IBM 3088 CTC Global Resource Serialization -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Elardus Engelbrecht mailto:elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za June 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM I have watched that nice video, bringing back memories of those 3800, 3380, 3090, 3420 and such animals. But what the four letter word is a 'GRS Control Unit'? Searches on IBM webpages (and history webpages) gave me just all [useless] info about GRS or CONTROL or UNIT, but not specific details about that device. Anyone having a clue what device is it? Is it the grandfather of the XCF and such things? TIA! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original message as an attachment to 'phish...@timeinc.com'. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Lt. Gen. David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
Richard Pinion wrote: The IBM mainframe emulator Hercules has CTC 3088 functionality. I think that is used for TCP/IP. Mark Jacobs wrote: Yep. That's it. Thanks for remembering. We were still using one when I left my previous position in 1995 with a 3090 400E processor. Gross, Randall wrote: IBM 3088 CTC That is it! Thanks to all. Now to return to you. There is a 11 MB, 256 pages, PDF with this name: 'GC22-7064-10_IO_Equipment_Installation_Physical_Planning_Jul86.pdf' Just Google it and you will get many copies of that PDF in various sites including the one bitsavers for example. example: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/370/fe/ That PDF describes this thing on page 18 and other equipment too. Photos (somewhat bad but Ok) are also included. The top of the 3088 described in the doc matches the one in the YouTube video. Oh, z/VM and many other IBM products currently available still support that device for backward compatibility purposes. Thanks again! Groete / Greeting Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
The IBM mainframe emulator Hercules has CTC 3088 functionality. I think that is used for TCP/IP. --- mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote: From: Mark Jacobs - Listserv mark.jac...@custserv.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 10:09:45 -0400 Yep. That's it. Thanks for remembering. We were still using one when I left my previous position in 1995 with a 3090 400E processor. Mark Jacobs Gross, Randall [PRI-1PP] mailto:randy.gr...@primerica.com June 12, 2015 at 10:05 AM IBM 3088 CTC Global Resource Serialization -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Mark Jacobs - Listserv mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com June 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Elardus Engelbrecht mailto:elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za June 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM I have watched that nice video, bringing back memories of those 3800, 3380, 3090, 3420 and such animals. But what the four letter word is a 'GRS Control Unit'? Searches on IBM webpages (and history webpages) gave me just all [useless] info about GRS or CONTROL or UNIT, but not specific details about that device. Anyone having a clue what device is it? Is it the grandfather of the XCF and such things? TIA! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original message as an attachment to 'phish...@timeinc.com'. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Lt. Gen. David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:17:31 -0700, Norman.Hollander wrote: 3088 Multi-System Channel-to-Channel I/O Control Unit. Bus and Tag, connecting 4 CPUs (IIRC). I thought I remembered 8 channel connections. I found this in the OS/390 2.10 GRS Planning manual: Model A1 can connect two systems through up to 63 data links. Model 1 can connect up to four systems through up to 126 data links. Model 2 can connect up to eight systems through up to 252 data links. ISTR it was sometimes referred to as an octopus. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Elardus Engelbrecht mailto:elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za June 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM I have watched that nice video, bringing back memories of those 3800, 3380, 3090, 3420 and such animals. But what the four letter word is a 'GRS Control Unit'? Searches on IBM webpages (and history webpages) gave me just all [useless] info about GRS or CONTROL or UNIT, but not specific details about that device. Anyone having a clue what device is it? Is it the grandfather of the XCF and such things? TIA! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original message as an attachment to 'phish...@timeinc.com'. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Lt. Gen. David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
Yep. That's it. Thanks for remembering. We were still using one when I left my previous position in 1995 with a 3090 400E processor. Mark Jacobs Gross, Randall [PRI-1PP] mailto:randy.gr...@primerica.com June 12, 2015 at 10:05 AM IBM 3088 CTC Global Resource Serialization -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Mark Jacobs - Listserv mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com June 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Elardus Engelbrecht mailto:elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za June 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM I have watched that nice video, bringing back memories of those 3800, 3380, 3090, 3420 and such animals. But what the four letter word is a 'GRS Control Unit'? Searches on IBM webpages (and history webpages) gave me just all [useless] info about GRS or CONTROL or UNIT, but not specific details about that device. Anyone having a clue what device is it? Is it the grandfather of the XCF and such things? TIA! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original message as an attachment to 'phish...@timeinc.com'. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Lt. Gen. David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s)
I think it was a 3088 Regards, Joerg Pohlmann -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: June 12, 2015 07:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS Control Unit ( Was IBM mainframe operations in the 80s) I don't remember the device number but it was used for CTC communications using bus and tag cables. Mark Jacobs Elardus Engelbrecht mailto:elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za June 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM I have watched that nice video, bringing back memories of those 3800, 3380, 3090, 3420 and such animals. But what the four letter word is a 'GRS Control Unit'? Searches on IBM webpages (and history webpages) gave me just all [useless] info about GRS or CONTROL or UNIT, but not specific details about that device. Anyone having a clue what device is it? Is it the grandfather of the XCF and such things? TIA! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original message as an attachment to 'phish...@timeinc.com'. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Lt. Gen. David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
