Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
Dear Marna, Thanks a lot for the guidance. Regards, Suresh On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hi All, Since you mentioned the z/OS V2,1 Migration book being available, I thought I would bring to your attention something. It's different. We've tried a new format for the book, which I'm hoping will make it easier to read. We've divided up the chapters into which migration path you are on (R12- V2.1, or R13- V2.1). You read only the chapters that apply to you. Here's the layout: Chapter 1: Introduction for all users Chapter 2: General migration actionsfor all users Chapter 3: Migration from z/OS R13 for R13 - V2.1 users Chapter 4: Migration from z/OS R12 for R12 - V2.1 users R13-V2R1 : Read Chapters 1, 2, and 3. Skip Chapter 4. R12 - V2R1: Read Chapter 1,2, and 4. Skip chapter 3. Any feedback on this format is welcome! -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- *SureshNc* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
That's not my suggestion. My suggestion is simply to list (and to link to) all the previous migration documents within the current migration document. Save the reader a step (or two) in hunting them down. I don't know if the current migration document already does that but, if not, it should. It'd be a very short chapter that looks something like this: Chapter X: Upgrade to z/OS 2.1 from Operating System Releases Prior to z/OS 1.12 IBM does not support sharing z/OS 2.1 datasets and other operating system elements with operating system releases prior to z/OS 1.12. Also, IBM may no longer support your older operating system release. Customers migrating from operating system releases prior to z/OS 1.12 must prepare and execute a special migration plan to move to z/OS 2.1. To understand the migration considerations applicable to upgrades to past releases, please review the historical migration guides relevant to your circumstances. Here is a list of historical operating system migration guides: (Insert list/links here.) You may wish to engage a specialist services organization or IBM to assist in preparing and executing your special migration plan. Special migration plans are broadly split into two types: stepwise migrations and single step migrations. Stepwise migrations adhere to IBM's previously and currently supported operating system coexistence combinations. For example, if you are upgrading to z/OS 2.1 from z/OS 1.10, then a stepwise migration would involve an initial upgrade from z/OS 1.10 to 1.12 followed by a second upgrade from 1.12 to 1.21, in sequence. Single step migrations involve skipping intermediate releases, migrating directly to z/OS 2.1 without sharing datasets and other operating system elements between the old release and z/OS 2.1. For perspective, most of the IT industry's operating systems do not support release coexistence, so a single step migration is broadly similar in nature to release upgrades among other operating systems. Customers vary in how they weigh risk and cost factors as they consider migration strategies, but generally costs tend to increase as the number of migration steps increases. To reiterate, IBM may no longer support your older operating system release. Moreover, IBM never supported sharing datasets and other elements between operating system releases unless IBM specifically published coexistence guidance indicating otherwise. You and your services partner (if applicable) should carefully understand, assess, and manage the risks involved when preparing and executing your special migration plan. That'd work! Timothy Sipples GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
All double column formatted PDFs drive me crazy. If I set the view to entire page, then the fonts too small. If I set the font large enough to see, then I have to yo-yo the pages up and down to read the columns. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bonno, Tuco Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 6:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available most emphatic ditto to what Louis Losee said, with this addendum: ... and doing so is driving me nuts /s/ tuco bonno; Graduate, College of Conflict Management; University of SouthEast Asia; I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Louis Losee Sent: Thursday, 08 August, 2013 10:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available The migration specific format is nice, however, for online reading the dual columns cause the reader to constanly page up and down to read each page. On Aug 8, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hi All, Since you mentioned the z/OS V2,1 Migration book being available, I thought I would bring to your attention something. It's different. We've tried a new format for the book, which I'm hoping will make it easier to read. We've divided up the chapters into which migration path you are on (R12- V2.1, or R13- V2.1). You read only the chapters that apply to you. Here's the layout: Chapter 1: Introduction for all users Chapter 2: General migration actionsfor all users Chapter 3: Migration from z/OS R13 for R13 - V2.1 users Chapter 4: Migration from z/OS R12 for R12 - V2.1 users R13-V2R1 : Read Chapters 1, 2, and 3. Skip Chapter 4. R12 - V2R1: Read Chapter 1,2, and 4. Skip chapter 3. Any feedback on this format is welcome! -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
I don't normally install z/OS, but when I do, I install dos punto uno. Regards, John K Marna Walle of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 08/09/2013 07:38:30 PM: Hi Timothy, It is unlikely that we'd put an unsupported coexistence path in the book - even as a checklist of items. As you know, you can see what one of those jumps would look like by putting a couple of books together. We'll keep all the documentation out there for you, though :). As the Dos Equis guy might say: Stay current, my friends. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
Based on other past manuals, I might have expected the two-column text format here as well, but the z/OS 2.1 migration manual I find at http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/e0z3m100.pdf does seem to have all text sections in single-column format. I understand Marna's confusion. The Table of Contents is indeed two columns, and probably every table in the document is two or more columns; but there's not much use for even formatting data into a table if you are going to limit all tables to one dimension. J. C. Ewing On 08/09/2013 11:45 PM, Louis Losee wrote: Each page of the manual is formatted into two columns (like a newspaper. When you finish reading the first column (on the left half of the page) you then have to scroll up to see the start of the column of the right half of the page to continue reading. Most IBM manuals (with the notable exception of the Principles of Operation manual) are formatted such that the text runs from the left margin to the right margin allowing you to just scroll down to read it. When you get to the bottom of the page you just continue to scroll to the next page. Hope that helps. Lou On Aug 9, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: I'm sorry...I am really dense. I'm not following what dual columns are. Are you referring to the template table that is used after the Description, and before the Steps to Take? Is it something else that just now appears in the z/OS V2R1 Migration book, or has it been there all along? I wouldn't like to keep paging up and down online either, so I'd like to see if there is something to be done about it. -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- Joel C. Ewing,Bentonville, AR jcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
most emphatic ditto to what Louis Losee said, with this addendum: ... and doing so is driving me nuts /s/ tuco bonno; Graduate, College of Conflict Management; University of SouthEast Asia; I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Louis Losee Sent: Thursday, 08 August, 2013 10:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available The migration specific format is nice, however, for online reading the dual columns cause the reader to constanly page up and down to read each page. On Aug 8, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hi All, Since you mentioned the z/OS V2,1 Migration book being available, I thought I would bring to your attention something. It's different. We've tried a new format for the book, which I'm hoping will make it easier to read. We've divided up the chapters into which migration path you are on (R12- V2.1, or R13- V2.1). You read only the chapters that apply to you. Here's the layout: Chapter 1: Introduction for all users Chapter 2: General migration actionsfor all users Chapter 3: Migration from z/OS R13 for R13 - V2.1 users Chapter 4: Migration from z/OS R12 for R12 - V2.1 users R13-V2R1 : Read Chapters 1, 2, and 3. Skip Chapter 4. R12 - V2R1: Read Chapter 1,2, and 4. Skip chapter 3. Any feedback on this format is welcome! -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
I'm sorry...I am really dense. I'm not following what dual columns are. Are you referring to the template table that is used after the Description, and before the Steps to Take? Is it something else that just now appears in the z/OS V2R1 Migration book, or has it been there all along? I wouldn't like to keep paging up and down online either, so I'd like to see if there is something to be done about it. -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
Hi Timothy, It is unlikely that we'd put an unsupported coexistence path in the book - even as a checklist of items. As you know, you can see what one of those jumps would look like by putting a couple of books together. We'll keep all the documentation out there for you, though :). As the Dos Equis guy might say: Stay current, my friends. -Marna WALLE z/OS System Install -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
Each page of the manual is formatted into two columns (like a newspaper. When you finish reading the first column (on the left half of the page) you then have to scroll up to see the start of the column of the right half of the page to continue reading. Most IBM manuals (with the notable exception of the Principles of Operation manual) are formatted such that the text runs from the left margin to the right margin allowing you to just scroll down to read it. When you get to the bottom of the page you just continue to scroll to the next page. Hope that helps. Lou On Aug 9, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: I'm sorry...I am really dense. I'm not following what dual columns are. Are you referring to the template table that is used after the Description, and before the Steps to Take? Is it something else that just now appears in the z/OS V2R1 Migration book, or has it been there all along? I wouldn't like to keep paging up and down online either, so I'd like to see if there is something to be done about it. -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
Hi All, Since you mentioned the z/OS V2,1 Migration book being available, I thought I would bring to your attention something. It's different. We've tried a new format for the book, which I'm hoping will make it easier to read. We've divided up the chapters into which migration path you are on (R12- V2.1, or R13- V2.1). You read only the chapters that apply to you. Here's the layout: Chapter 1: Introduction for all users Chapter 2: General migration actionsfor all users Chapter 3: Migration from z/OS R13 for R13 - V2.1 users Chapter 4: Migration from z/OS R12 for R12 - V2.1 users R13-V2R1 : Read Chapters 1, 2, and 3. Skip Chapter 4. R12 - V2R1: Read Chapter 1,2, and 4. Skip chapter 3. Any feedback on this format is welcome! -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
Howdy Marna, I like it so far. I thru the chapter 1 and 2, starting 3. Did not even print out chapter 4. Saved some trees that way. And yes, sorry, I still need to print, highlite and note take with pen and highlighter. On 8/8/2013 5:51 PM, Marna WALLE wrote: Hi All, Since you mentioned the z/OS V2,1 Migration book being available, I thought I would bring to your attention something. It's different. We've tried a new format for the book, which I'm hoping will make it easier to read. We've divided up the chapters into which migration path you are on (R12- V2.1, or R13- V2.1). You read only the chapters that apply to you. Here's the layout: Chapter 1: Introduction for all users Chapter 2: General migration actionsfor all users Chapter 3: Migration from z/OS R13 for R13 - V2.1 users Chapter 4: Migration from z/OS R12 for R12 - V2.1 users R13-V2R1 : Read Chapters 1, 2, and 3. Skip Chapter 4. R12 - V2R1: Read Chapter 1,2, and 4. Skip chapter 3. Any feedback on this format is welcome! -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
The migration specific format is nice, however, for online reading the dual columns cause the reader to constanly page up and down to read each page. On Aug 8, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hi All, Since you mentioned the z/OS V2,1 Migration book being available, I thought I would bring to your attention something. It's different. We've tried a new format for the book, which I'm hoping will make it easier to read. We've divided up the chapters into which migration path you are on (R12- V2.1, or R13- V2.1). You read only the chapters that apply to you. Here's the layout: Chapter 1: Introduction for all users Chapter 2: General migration actionsfor all users Chapter 3: Migration from z/OS R13 for R13 - V2.1 users Chapter 4: Migration from z/OS R12 for R12 - V2.1 users R13-V2R1 : Read Chapters 1, 2, and 3. Skip Chapter 4. R12 - V2R1: Read Chapter 1,2, and 4. Skip chapter 3. Any feedback on this format is welcome! -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
I haven't checked yet, so I don't know it's already there. It'd be nice to have a brief chapter in the migration guide that explicitly lists/points to all the previous migration guides that one ought to review for migrations from any/every arbitrary release pre-z/OS 1.12 to z/OS 2.1. That would be useful information for trailing shops whether it's a big bang migration or a stepwise migration. Timothy Sipples GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available
Get used to it! IBM announced EOS for BookManager Read yesterday. EOS date 11/2014. ISTR, No CD/DVD's in .boo format was announced a couple of months back Cheers, snip I was not sure if this had been sent out to the list. Only PDF no BOO http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/e0z3m100.pdf The Migration PDF from z/OS V1.12 and V1.13 to V2.1 is out /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
