Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

2019-02-15 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 09:06:21 -0800, Charles Mills  wrote:

>I did not recall the exact operation of the bit flag. If I'd recalled that it 
>was an SVC 99 flag rather than some sort of global flag I might well have 
>found it myself.
>
>Why criticize people for asking a question? If they knew the answer they would 
>not have to ask the question -- 'tis true.
>

Just pointing out that providing as much info as possible helps generate 
correct answers. It doesn't matter if it was an SVC 99 flag, the important 
aspect was that the realm of your question was "when I do a dynamic 
allocation". There's also a flag for JCL-based allocation (that will also work 
for dynamic allocation) but operates differently, and is located elsewhere 
(PPT, to be specific).

Something like PPTNODSI (No DataSet Integrity), as I recall. For that one, the 
ENQ is first obtained, to ensure the dataset is indeed not being used in some 
conflicting way, and then released.

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Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

2019-02-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's only available if you're authorized.


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A kind soul offline points out S99NORES.

(No wonder I couldn't find it in the TCB.)

Charles


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IIRC there is a bit that causes dataset allocation to bypass the normal ENQ.
It is used, for example, by backup programs.



Can anyone share the name of the bit flag? I searched TCB, ASCB and JSCB.



Don't worry, I'm not going to use it willy-nilly. I'm not going to code it
at all. It is for a presentation I am putting together.



Thanks,

Charles




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Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

2019-02-11 Thread Charles Mills
I did not recall the exact operation of the bit flag. If I'd recalled that it 
was an SVC 99 flag rather than some sort of global flag I might well have found 
it myself.

Why criticize people for asking a question? If they knew the answer they would 
not have to ask the question -- 'tis true.

Charles


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Subject: Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:08:15 -0800, Charles Mills  wrote:

>A kind soul offline points out S99NORES.
>
>(No wonder I couldn't find it in the TCB.)

It also would have helped if you'd said you were interested in -dynamic- data 
set allocation, rather than simply data set allocation. It changes the answer.

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Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

2019-02-10 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:08:15 -0800, Charles Mills  wrote:

>A kind soul offline points out S99NORES.
>
>(No wonder I couldn't find it in the TCB.)

It also would have helped if you'd said you were interested in -dynamic- data 
set allocation, rather than simply data set allocation. It changes the answer.

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Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

2019-02-10 Thread Charles Mills
A kind soul offline points out S99NORES.

(No wonder I couldn't find it in the TCB.)

Charles


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Subject: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

IIRC there is a bit that causes dataset allocation to bypass the normal ENQ.
It is used, for example, by backup programs.

 

Can anyone share the name of the bit flag? I searched TCB, ASCB and JSCB.

 

Don't worry, I'm not going to use it willy-nilly. I'm not going to code it
at all. It is for a presentation I am putting together.

 

Thanks,

Charles

 


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Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

2019-02-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Put the program in the PPT with the proper attributes.


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Charles Mills 
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Subject: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

IIRC there is a bit that causes dataset allocation to bypass the normal ENQ.
It is used, for example, by backup programs.



Can anyone share the name of the bit flag? I searched TCB, ASCB and JSCB.



Don't worry, I'm not going to use it willy-nilly. I'm not going to code it
at all. It is for a presentation I am putting together.



Thanks,

Charles




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