Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-14 Thread Tim Hare
Is this for users, "power users", or programmer/developers?  For some of those 
groups,  SyncSort (not sure of the new names yet) or DFSORT provide pretty good 
reporting capabilities and great performance.

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Re: [External] Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
If Chris doesn't have a COBOL compiler that supports the report writer feature, 
RPG II would seem to be a viable alternative.


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Hi Bob,

As I see it, it appears Chris is looking for CA product replacements.  All the 
products he listed are CA report writers.  Unfortunately, so is DYL.  Was 
DYL-280, then DYL, now called CA Vision Results.

To compare, CA Vision Report is the "relatively" new name for Quikjob.

Rex

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It's bigger on the west coast of the USA than on the east, but when I was at 
Volvo Truck NA we used DYL-280II for years; they still do as far as I know.  It 
was published at the time by DYLAKOR, who I think had some relationship with 
Sterling Software.  They touted it as a 4GL; it isn't, in my opinion, but it's 
a very friendly 3GL.  We offered a two-day class to users so they could learn 
to write their own reports, and it was very popular.  Developers could learn 
the same content in half a day.  (For the users I'd spend an hour or two on 
sorting data, for example, going over variations, sorting on multiple field 
ascending and descending.  For the programmers I could pretty much just say 
"...and this is what the SORT statement looks like", and give them 30 seconds 
to contemplate it.)

I did a little googling and found one web page that says DYLAKOR is "no longer 
active".  Another one referred to "CA-DYL280".

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The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
   Culprit
   Eztrieve
   Quickjob
   Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

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Re: [External] Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-07 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Bob,

As I see it, it appears Chris is looking for CA product replacements.  All the 
products he listed are CA report writers.  Unfortunately, so is DYL.  Was 
DYL-280, then DYL, now called CA Vision Results.

To compare, CA Vision Report is the "relatively" new name for Quikjob.  

Rex

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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 5:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: report writer alternatives

It's bigger on the west coast of the USA than on the east, but when I was at 
Volvo Truck NA we used DYL-280II for years; they still do as far as I know.  It 
was published at the time by DYLAKOR, who I think had some relationship with 
Sterling Software.  They touted it as a 4GL; it isn't, in my opinion, but it's 
a very friendly 3GL.  We offered a two-day class to users so they could learn 
to write their own reports, and it was very popular.  Developers could learn 
the same content in half a day.  (For the users I'd spend an hour or two on 
sorting data, for example, going over variations, sorting on multiple field 
ascending and descending.  For the programmers I could pretty much just say 
"...and this is what the SORT statement looks like", and give them 30 seconds 
to contemplate it.)

I did a little googling and found one web page that says DYLAKOR is "no longer 
active".  Another one referred to "CA-DYL280".

---
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We are not in the business of meteorology.  -Shimon Peres */

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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 10:32

The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
   Culprit
   Eztrieve
   Quickjob
   Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
On your first thought -- IANAL, so I can't comment on which way is better or 
safer.  But companies have expensive lawyers for good reasons.  So long as they 
do their job and keep the company whole in the edge cases, I am content.

On your second thought -- Of course I am, or I wouldn't have said so.  That 
happens to be a not-always-small part of my regular day job, thank you very 
much, so yes I am "equipped and willing".  And there are a few more of us still 
around.

Now whether the COMPANY thinks it is "equipped and willing" in the worst-case 
scanrio is a different kettle of fish entirely, and way above my pay grade.

Peter

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Two thoughts:

- Shmuel is certainly right that you need to worry that if there is a 
bankruptcy -- not a sure thing; he might just drift away without formal 
bankruptcy -- you have an uphill battle NOT having the source code treated as 
an asset. The whole point of bankruptcy is tearing up all of those old 
agreements that got the creditor into trouble and starting fresh with the 
assets he has -- including the source code. If I were owed money by the 
bankrupt company I would argue "heck no, ignore that burdensome old agreement, 
sell the source to the highest bidder so the debtor can pay me what he owes me."

- Are you really, really, really sure that you are equipped and willing to 
"support it yourself" old idiosyncratic assembler source code, in a timely 
fashion?

Charles


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Have your lawyers verify that the escrowed source code can't be treated as an 
asset during bankruptcy.


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With the right source code escrow language written into the contract, 
"one-person operation" should not be a show-stopper unless the one person is 
not appropriately responsive to product defect repair or requests for 
reasonable product enhancements.

If very prompt defect repair is an important issue, write effective SLA's with 
increasing financial penalties for delayed defect repair into the contract as 
well.

We have had quite good luck with a few very helpful software products and very 
responsive authors.  Worst case, your company has the rights to the source code 
and can continue to support it yourself until transitioning to another product 
with active support.

Peter

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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:21 AM
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We migrated from Easytrieve to Z-Writer and found that Pacific Systems Group is 
a one person operation.

Thank You and Please Be Safe!

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Systems Administrator Senior
CSRA, A General Dynamics Information Technology Company
327 Columbia TPKE
Rensselaer, NY 12144

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Hi Chris,

I know nothing about this company/software and their claim,  we're in the same 
boat and I found them while researching.  

Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Tony Thigpen

Chris,

There is RPGII on z/OS and z/VSE.
There was an RPGIII that was on the S/38.
There was RPGIV i.e. RPG400 that was AS/400 centric.

As to your question, NO, RPGII has not changed in MANY years. Until 
about 1998, the last APAR was in the mid-80's. Then, about 1998, there 
as a single new APAR that talked about dates and simply showed how to 
use a call statement to call a date windowing subroutine. No object-code 
changes.


For a simple report writer, RPGII was fully developed by the 80's.
RPGIII was actually more restrictive in how it handled files due to the 
nature of the S/38.
RPGIV/RPG400 tried to change the language to be free-form. In my 
opinion, it just made a mess of everything in the name of 'changes for 
changes sake'. They then shoved the changes down the throats of AS/400 
users.


For writing complex programs, RPGII is not the way to go. But, for 
writing simple ad-hoc control break reports, it's really good.


Tony Thigpen

Chris Hoelscher wrote on 7/6/21 11:08 PM:

Back in the 80s - I indeed use RPG III - I am sure (okay I hope) it is more 
advanced in the past  36 years ...

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA
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Chris,

Please don't hit me for this, but RPGII with it's *auto feature can produce 
multi-level reports with very little code. And, there are still people that 
know how to write RPGII, although most of them will be in VSE shops were it is 
still used a lot. And, it's cheap.

Tony Thigpen

Chris Hoelscher wrote on 7/6/21 10:32 AM:

The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
 Culprit
 Eztrieve
 Quickjob
 Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Charles Mills
Two thoughts:

- Shmuel is certainly right that you need to worry that if there is a
bankruptcy -- not a sure thing; he might just drift away without formal
bankruptcy -- you have an uphill battle NOT having the source code treated
as an asset. The whole point of bankruptcy is tearing up all of those old
agreements that got the creditor into trouble and starting fresh with the
assets he has -- including the source code. If I were owed money by the
bankrupt company I would argue "heck no, ignore that burdensome old
agreement, sell the source to the highest bidder so the debtor can pay me
what he owes me."

- Are you really, really, really sure that you are equipped and willing to
"support it yourself" old idiosyncratic assembler source code, in a timely
fashion?

Charles


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 5:19 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: report writer alternatives

Have your lawyers verify that the escrowed source code can't be treated as
an asset during bankruptcy.


--
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Farley, Peter x23353 [031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:39 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: report writer alternatives

With the right source code escrow language written into the contract,
"one-person operation" should not be a show-stopper unless the one person is
not appropriately responsive to product defect repair or requests for
reasonable product enhancements.

If very prompt defect repair is an important issue, write effective SLA's
with increasing financial penalties for delayed defect repair into the
contract as well.

We have had quite good luck with a few very helpful software products and
very responsive authors.  Worst case, your company has the rights to the
source code and can continue to support it yourself until transitioning to
another product with active support.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
Sasso, Len
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: report writer alternatives

We migrated from Easytrieve to Z-Writer and found that Pacific Systems Group
is a one person operation.

Thank You and Please Be Safe!

Len Sasso
Systems Administrator Senior
CSRA, A General Dynamics Information Technology Company
327 Columbia TPKE
Rensselaer, NY 12144

TEAM: Together Everyone Achieves More

Office Hours: M-F  7 AM - 3:45 PM

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Thank you very much for this information

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IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:02 AM
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Hi Chris,

I know nothing about this company/software and their claim,  we're in the
same boat and I found them while researching.  I haven't tried their
software yet.

Here's their claim:

 Z-Writer is the quick-code utility for z/OS mainframes. Its native syntax
is very similar to competing quick-code tools such as DYL-280, Easytrieve,
Quikjob and CA-Earl. If you are using one of those programs, you'll be able
to run your existing programs on Z-Writer with only minor changes.

And with our ZWDYL interface, you can actually run all your existing DYL-280
(VISION:Results) program without any changes to either the program code or
the JCL. Our ZWQUIK interface (beta) lets you do the same thing for your
Quikjob (VISION:Report) programs.

The company is called Pacific Systems Group and their website is
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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Back in the 80s - I indeed use RPG III - I am sure (okay I hope) it is more 
advanced in the past  36 years ...

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA 
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 10:41 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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Chris,

Please don't hit me for this, but RPGII with it's *auto feature can produce 
multi-level reports with very little code. And, there are still people that 
know how to write RPGII, although most of them will be in VSE shops were it is 
still used a lot. And, it's cheap.

Tony Thigpen

Chris Hoelscher wrote on 7/6/21 10:32 AM:
> The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer
>
> We would need an alternative to
> Culprit
> Eztrieve
> Quickjob
> Earl
>
> Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?
>
> Chris Hoelscher
> Lead Sys DBA
> IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
> T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266
>
> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity 
> to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material.  If 
> you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and 
> delete or destroy the material/information.
>
> Humana Inc. and its subsidiaries comply with applicable Federal civil 
> rights laws and do not discriminate on the basis of race, color, 
> national origin, ancestry, age, disability, sex, marital status, 
> gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or religion. Humana Inc. 
> and its subsidiaries do not exclude people or treat them differently because 
> of race, color, national origin, ancestry, age, disability, sex, marital 
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> 711).
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> 711).
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> 服務。請致電 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711)。
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> gen sèvis èd pou lang ki disponib gratis pou ou. Rele 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 
> 711).
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> bezpłatnej pomocy językowej. Zadzwoń pod numer 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711).
>
> 한국어 (Korean): 주의: 한국어를 사용하시는 경우, 언어 지원 서비스를 무료로 이용하실 수 있습니다. 
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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Tony Thigpen

Chris,

Please don't hit me for this, but RPGII with it's *auto feature can 
produce multi-level reports with very little code. And, there are still 
people that know how to write RPGII, although most of them will be in 
VSE shops were it is still used a lot. And, it's cheap.


Tony Thigpen

Chris Hoelscher wrote on 7/6/21 10:32 AM:

The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
Culprit
Eztrieve
Quickjob
Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
Have your lawyers verify that the escrowed source code can't be treated as an 
asset during bankruptcy.


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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:39 AM
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With the right source code escrow language written into the contract, 
"one-person operation" should not be a show-stopper unless the one person is 
not appropriately responsive to product defect repair or requests for 
reasonable product enhancements.

If very prompt defect repair is an important issue, write effective SLA's with 
increasing financial penalties for delayed defect repair into the contract as 
well.

We have had quite good luck with a few very helpful software products and very 
responsive authors.  Worst case, your company has the rights to the source code 
and can continue to support it yourself until transitioning to another product 
with active support.

Peter

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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: report writer alternatives

We migrated from Easytrieve to Z-Writer and found that Pacific Systems Group is 
a one person operation.

Thank You and Please Be Safe!

Len Sasso
Systems Administrator Senior
CSRA, A General Dynamics Information Technology Company
327 Columbia TPKE
Rensselaer, NY 12144

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Office Hours: M-F  7 AM - 3:45 PM

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Hi Chris,

I know nothing about this company/software and their claim,  we're in the same 
boat and I found them while researching.  I haven't tried their software yet.

Here's their claim:

 Z-Writer is the quick-code utility for z/OS mainframes. Its native syntax is 
very similar to competing quick-code tools such as DYL-280, Easytrieve, Quikjob 
and CA-Earl. If you are using one of those programs, you'll be able to run your 
existing programs on Z-Writer with only minor changes.

And with our ZWDYL interface, you can actually run all your existing DYL-280 
(VISION:Results) program without any changes to either the program code or the 
JCL. Our ZWQUIK interface (beta) lets you do the same thing for your Quikjob 
(VISION:Report) programs.

The company is called Pacific Systems Group and their website is 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/*urldefense.com/v3/__http:/*www.pacsys.com__;!!IfVdvpvC!CRxRrdvGWX-0nF0bVEqPXCKpp-epQtvKj6gCX4cYLqYFJPS6BQu-VN7SsHFfHy0Q$__;Lw!!JRQnnSFuzw7wjAKq6ti6!lIkp7xHfxb1h6PPHaMRI9y3NkCXL44B7OHGt-ZGA2sPa1ZQbvTCFOYFQ0W7WRQ$__;Lyo!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!bYUihWs1OKKIn7Dbxr3lju5Q6LdGkrokLRK53cGOmJwM7ZCjihz4aFSBCPynqT440jqYnw$
   .   Let me know if you check it out and how they work for you.  I will say I 
checked pricing and at least at this point in time for us, their price isn't 
much less than the CA products we're looking to replace.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Chris Hoelscher
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] report writer alternatives

The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
   Culprit
   Eztrieve
   Quickjob
   Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Thomas Kern
In my mainframe career, I used DYLAKOR, Eztrieve, Earl and SAS. This one 
looks even better. If I still had access to a z/OS system, I would get 
the 30 day free trial just to see how good it really is.


I would have two requests for the vendor: Can you provide a z/VM 
version? Can you provide a Linux version?


I would definately want to use a Linux version in my current work.


/Tom Kern


On 7/6/2021 6:15 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:

It's bigger on the west coast of the USA than on the east, but when I was at Volvo Truck 
NA we used DYL-280II for years; they still do as far as I know.  It was published at the 
time by DYLAKOR, who I think had some relationship with Sterling Software.  They touted 
it as a 4GL; it isn't, in my opinion, but it's a very friendly 3GL.  We offered a two-day 
class to users so they could learn to write their own reports, and it was very popular.  
Developers could learn the same content in half a day.  (For the users I'd spend an hour 
or two on sorting data, for example, going over variations, sorting on multiple field 
ascending and descending.  For the programmers I could pretty much just say "...and 
this is what the SORT statement looks like", and give them 30 seconds to contemplate 
it.)

I did a little googling and found one web page that says DYLAKOR is "no longer active".  
Another one referred to "CA-DYL280".

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The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
Culprit
Eztrieve
Quickjob
Earl

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Bob Bridges
It's bigger on the west coast of the USA than on the east, but when I was at 
Volvo Truck NA we used DYL-280II for years; they still do as far as I know.  It 
was published at the time by DYLAKOR, who I think had some relationship with 
Sterling Software.  They touted it as a 4GL; it isn't, in my opinion, but it's 
a very friendly 3GL.  We offered a two-day class to users so they could learn 
to write their own reports, and it was very popular.  Developers could learn 
the same content in half a day.  (For the users I'd spend an hour or two on 
sorting data, for example, going over variations, sorting on multiple field 
ascending and descending.  For the programmers I could pretty much just say 
"...and this is what the SORT statement looks like", and give them 30 seconds 
to contemplate it.)

I did a little googling and found one web page that says DYLAKOR is "no longer 
active".  Another one referred to "CA-DYL280".

---
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We are not in the business of meteorology.  -Shimon Peres */

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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 10:32

The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
   Culprit
   Eztrieve
   Quickjob
   Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Dana Mitchell
It's been quite  a few years since I last worked with it, but IBM Migration 
Utility can take Easytrieve source and produce a Cobol source.  You can choose 
to either just keep the Cobol for future enhancements,  or maintain the 
Easytrieve source and convert every time.  We migrated to it as part of moving 
a customer to IBM Global Services and converting 3rd party products to their 
IBM counterparts.
Dana

On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 14:32:01 +, Chris Hoelscher  
wrote:

>The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer
>
>We would need an alternative to
>   Culprit
>   Eztrieve
>   Quickjob
>   Earl

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
With the right source code escrow language written into the contract, 
"one-person operation" should not be a show-stopper unless the one person is 
not appropriately responsive to product defect repair or requests for 
reasonable product enhancements.

If very prompt defect repair is an important issue, write effective SLA's with 
increasing financial penalties for delayed defect repair into the contract as 
well.

We have had quite good luck with a few very helpful software products and very 
responsive authors.  Worst case, your company has the rights to the source code 
and can continue to support it yourself until transitioning to another product 
with active support.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Sasso, Len
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: report writer alternatives

We migrated from Easytrieve to Z-Writer and found that Pacific Systems Group is 
a one person operation.

Thank You and Please Be Safe!

Len Sasso
Systems Administrator Senior
CSRA, A General Dynamics Information Technology Company
327 Columbia TPKE
Rensselaer, NY 12144

TEAM: Together Everyone Achieves More

Office Hours: M-F  7 AM - 3:45 PM

Vacation:

Phone: (518) 257-4209
Cell: (518) 894-0879
Fax: (518) 257-4300
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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:02 AM
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Hi Chris,

I know nothing about this company/software and their claim,  we're in the same 
boat and I found them while researching.  I haven't tried their software yet.

Here's their claim:

 Z-Writer is the quick-code utility for z/OS mainframes. Its native syntax is 
very similar to competing quick-code tools such as DYL-280, Easytrieve, Quikjob 
and CA-Earl. If you are using one of those programs, you'll be able to run your 
existing programs on Z-Writer with only minor changes.

And with our ZWDYL interface, you can actually run all your existing DYL-280 
(VISION:Results) program without any changes to either the program code or the 
JCL. Our ZWQUIK interface (beta) lets you do the same thing for your Quikjob 
(VISION:Report) programs.

The company is called Pacific Systems Group and their website is 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/*urldefense.com/v3/__http:/*www.pacsys.com__;!!IfVdvpvC!CRxRrdvGWX-0nF0bVEqPXCKpp-epQtvKj6gCX4cYLqYFJPS6BQu-VN7SsHFfHy0Q$__;Lw!!JRQnnSFuzw7wjAKq6ti6!lIkp7xHfxb1h6PPHaMRI9y3NkCXL44B7OHGt-ZGA2sPa1ZQbvTCFOYFQ0W7WRQ$__;Lyo!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!bYUihWs1OKKIn7Dbxr3lju5Q6LdGkrokLRK53cGOmJwM7ZCjihz4aFSBCPynqT440jqYnw$
   .   Let me know if you check it out and how they work for you.  I will say I 
checked pricing and at least at this point in time for us, their price isn't 
much less than the CA products we're looking to replace.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:32 AM
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Subject: [External] report writer alternatives

The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
   Culprit
   Eztrieve
   Quickjob
   Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

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IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Sasso, Len
We migrated from Easytrieve to Z-Writer and found that Pacific Systems Group is 
a one person operation.



Thank You and Please Be Safe!

Len Sasso
Systems Administrator Senior
CSRA, A General Dynamics Information Technology Company
327 Columbia TPKE
Rensselaer, NY 12144

TEAM: Together Everyone Achieves More

Office Hours: M-F  7 AM - 3:45 PM

Vacation:

Phone: (518) 257-4209
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IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Pommier, Rex
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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[External Email: Use caution with links and attachments]


Hi Chris,

I know nothing about this company/software and their claim,  we're in the same 
boat and I found them while researching.  I haven't tried their software yet.

Here's their claim:

 Z-Writer is the quick-code utility for z/OS mainframes. Its native syntax is 
very similar to competing quick-code tools such as DYL-280, Easytrieve, Quikjob 
and CA-Earl. If you are using one of those programs, you'll be able to run your 
existing programs on Z-Writer with only minor changes.

And with our ZWDYL interface, you can actually run all your existing DYL-280 
(VISION:Results) program without any changes to either the program code or the 
JCL. Our ZWQUIK interface (beta) lets you do the same thing for your Quikjob 
(VISION:Report) programs.

The company is called Pacific Systems Group and their website is 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/*www.pacsys.com__;!!IfVdvpvC!CRxRrdvGWX-0nF0bVEqPXCKpp-epQtvKj6gCX4cYLqYFJPS6BQu-VN7SsHFfHy0Q$__;Lw!!JRQnnSFuzw7wjAKq6ti6!lIkp7xHfxb1h6PPHaMRI9y3NkCXL44B7OHGt-ZGA2sPa1ZQbvTCFOYFQ0W7WRQ$
  .   Let me know if you check it out and how they work for you.  I will say I 
checked pricing and at least at this point in time for us, their price isn't 
much less than the CA products we're looking to replace.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] report writer alternatives

The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
   Culprit
   Eztrieve
   Quickjob
   Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Thank you very much for this information

Chris Hoelscher
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IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Pommier, Rex
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] report writer alternatives

[External Email: Use caution with links and attachments]


Hi Chris,

I know nothing about this company/software and their claim,  we're in the same 
boat and I found them while researching.  I haven't tried their software yet.

Here's their claim:

 Z-Writer is the quick-code utility for z/OS mainframes. Its native syntax is 
very similar to competing quick-code tools such as DYL-280, Easytrieve, Quikjob 
and CA-Earl. If you are using one of those programs, you'll be able to run your 
existing programs on Z-Writer with only minor changes.

And with our ZWDYL interface, you can actually run all your existing DYL-280 
(VISION:Results) program without any changes to either the program code or the 
JCL. Our ZWQUIK interface (beta) lets you do the same thing for your Quikjob 
(VISION:Report) programs.

The company is called Pacific Systems Group and their website is 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.pacsys.com__;!!IfVdvpvC!CRxRrdvGWX-0nF0bVEqPXCKpp-epQtvKj6gCX4cYLqYFJPS6BQu-VN7SsHFfHy0Q$
 .   Let me know if you check it out and how they work for you.  I will say I 
checked pricing and at least at this point in time for us, their price isn't 
much less than the CA products we're looking to replace.

Rex

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The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
   Culprit
   Eztrieve
   Quickjob
   Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

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Re: report writer alternatives

2021-07-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Chris,

I know nothing about this company/software and their claim,  we're in the same 
boat and I found them while researching.  I haven't tried their software yet.

Here's their claim: 

 Z-Writer is the quick-code utility for z/OS mainframes. Its native syntax is 
very similar to competing quick-code tools such as DYL-280, Easytrieve, Quikjob 
and CA-Earl. If you are using one of those programs, you'll be able to run your 
existing programs on Z-Writer with only minor changes.

And with our ZWDYL interface, you can actually run all your existing DYL-280 
(VISION:Results) program without any changes to either the program code or the 
JCL. Our ZWQUIK interface (beta) lets you do the same thing for your Quikjob 
(VISION:Report) programs.

The company is called Pacific Systems Group and their website is 
www.pacsys.com.   Let me know if you check it out and how they work for you.  I 
will say I checked pricing and at least at this point in time for us, their 
price isn't much less than the CA products we're looking to replace.  

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Chris Hoelscher
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] report writer alternatives

The site I support may soon be in the need for a load report writer

We would need an alternative to
   Culprit
   Eztrieve
   Quickjob
   Earl

Without any research - any other report writers come to mind?

Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

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