Re: Replacing CA products
Well, If you get tired of paying 5 to 10 times more than you should, feel free to send me a note or you can go to the web site to get information on the replacements:) ( www.SyzygyInc.com ) Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Replacing CA products
If you replace CA-7 by Control-M, you can/should replace CA-11 by Control-R. Kees. John A Zoppetti jazoppe...@uss.com wrote in message news:ofc83de714.3eaaf0f0-on85257a45.0053c246-85257a45.00544...@notes.uss.com... We are planning to replace our CA products with similar products from other vendors. Listed below are the replacements we are investigating. Any recommendations for different software than what we have identified and/or user experiences in the following migrations would be appreciated. We plan to migrate each of these CA products to the listed product: ACF2 - IBM RACF (we have had RACF on some LPARs) CA-1 - IBM DFSMS RMM PMO - IBM LLA QFETCH - IBM VLF Platinum DB2 tools - IBM DB2 tools We plan to investigate these candidate products as replacements: CA-7 - BMC Control-M, Tivoli Workload Scheduler, ASG Zeke CA-11 - Tivoli Workload Scheduler, ASG Zebb Easytrieve - PSG Z-Writer, IBM Migration Utility Panvalet/PanAPT - ISPW, SCLM, RDZ Thank you, John Zoppetti U. S. Steel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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or replace both CA-7 and CA-11 with TWS. There is an easy, proven conversion solution that goes along with it. Talk to your IBM salesreps and ask them to talk with the TWS lab in Rome. They can give you more details. Regards, Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sun, Aug 5, 2012 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Replacing CA products If you replace CA-7 by Control-M, you can/should replace CA-11 by Control-R. Kees. John A Zoppetti jazoppe...@uss.com wrote in message news:ofc83de714.3eaaf0f0-on85257a45.0053c246-85257a45.00544...@notes.uss.com... We are planning to replace our CA products with similar products from other vendors. Listed below are the replacements we are investigating. Any recommendations for different software than what we have identified and/or user experiences in the following migrations would be appreciated. We plan to migrate each of these CA products to the listed product: ACF2 - IBM RACF (we have had RACF on some LPARs) CA-1 - IBM DFSMS RMM PMO - IBM LLA QFETCH - IBM VLF Platinum DB2 tools - IBM DB2 tools We plan to investigate these candidate products as replacements: CA-7 - BMC Control-M, Tivoli Workload Scheduler, ASG Zeke CA-11 - Tivoli Workload Scheduler, ASG Zebb Easytrieve - PSG Z-Writer, IBM Migration Utility Panvalet/PanAPT - ISPW, SCLM, RDZ Thank you, John Zoppetti U. S. Steel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN *** or information, services and offers, please visit our web site: ttp://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and rivileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the ddressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be isclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this -mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have eceived this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return -mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its mployees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of his e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. oninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch irlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 3014286 *** -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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For Panvalet/PanAPT, in addition to SCLM you might (also) consider IBM Rational ClearCase or Rational Team Concert. IBM has three solid choices in that general category. RDz and ISPF work with all of them. If you're a CICS Transaction Server shop then CICS Configuration Manager may be relevant if you have a lot of developer deploy/test cycles into CICS, particularly for complex applications. Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Mitch, As an example, IBM does not have an internal solution but instead uses other vendors. I dont know where you get that information. My recent past and present experience is that IBM has a strong presence in this area - The SMPO (Systems Migration Project Office) provides strong and experienced services in this area. I am not saying they always do it themselves - I also know they can contract out .. Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Replacing CA products
John: Good morning. some interesting choices. Please contact me offline as I have a number of partners/solutions that can automate the replacements for you. As an example, ACF2 to RACF CA1 to DFSMS/rmm CA7 to TWS* CA11 to TWS* CA-Panvalet to ISPW (or SysChange) If you have any other ASG or CA products you would like to replace, let me know. If you don't have a full function JCL and batch management tool suite, let's talk. If you have any legacy database environments you may be considering modernizing (i.e. SAG Adabas), I can help you there, too. * I would strongly recommend with staying away from any ASG product. With Regards, Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: John A Zoppetti jazoppe...@uss.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 8:30 am Subject: Replacing CA products We are planning to replace our CA products with similar products from other endors. Listed below are the replacements we are investigating. Any ecommendations for different software than what we have identified and/or ser experiences in the following migrations would be appreciated. We plan to migrate each of these CA products to the listed product: CF2 - IBM RACF (we have had RACF on some LPARs) A-1 - IBM DFSMS RMM MO - IBM LLA FETCH - IBM VLF latinum DB2 tools - IBM DB2 tools We plan to investigate these candidate products as replacements: A-7 - BMC Control-M, Tivoli Workload Scheduler, ASG Zeke A-11 - Tivoli Workload Scheduler, ASG Zebb asytrieve - PSG Z-Writer, IBM Migration Utility anvalet/PanAPT - ISPW, SCLM, RDZ Thank you, John Zoppetti . S. Steel - or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Your Destination vendor will have appropriate services and tools for your migration. Be sure to ask about them. The vendors are there to help make you successful. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John A Zoppetti Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Replacing CA products We are planning to replace our CA products with similar products from other vendors. Listed below are the replacements we are investigating. Any recommendations for different software than what we have identified and/or user experiences in the following migrations would be appreciated. We plan to migrate each of these CA products to the listed product: ACF2 - IBM RACF (we have had RACF on some LPARs) CA-1 - IBM DFSMS RMM PMO - IBM LLA QFETCH - IBM VLF Platinum DB2 tools - IBM DB2 tools We plan to investigate these candidate products as replacements: CA-7 - BMC Control-M, Tivoli Workload Scheduler, ASG Zeke CA-11 - Tivoli Workload Scheduler, ASG Zebb Easytrieve - PSG Z-Writer, IBM Migration Utility Panvalet/PanAPT - ISPW, SCLM, RDZ Thank you, John Zoppetti U. S. Steel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I didn't see automation products on your list but we have replaced over 100 CA installed sites with our Automation software. Not only is our software less than 5 to 10% of the CA cost, we are also much better in many areas. You can view the software at www.SyzygyInc.com . Brian Westerman Syzygy Incorporated -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
