Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMF record analyze

[Martin Packer]

Yes, it’s 2.1 so almost everyone can do it now.

Thanks, Vignesh, for mentioning my quite old blog post.

There is only one place where I process SMF with REXX: I wrote a prototype
to extract the Deactivated LPARs from 70-1. I guess I was lazy. :-) This
code is actually quite handy - and I should probably polish it up and
publish it.

The motivation was to avoid adding to our already quite complex Assembler
code for 70-1 so I wrote a new part a new way.

Today I copy to VB first. I can (and probably should) remove the copy step
- as our system is on 2.1.

But there’s no rush - as the data is low volume.

Which leads to another point: I’m not sure REXX against SMF is going to be
fast - in volume. It’s worth trying it out - and SMF 30 would certainly be
voluminous enough for speed to matter (at least a little).

Experiences?

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> On 24 Apr 2018, at 18:50, Elardus Engelbrecht
 wrote:
>
> Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
>
>>
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/processing_vbs_data_with_rexx?lang=en

>> Believe REXX can read VBS... since v2r2 or something.
>
> Yes, I forgot about this which were also discussed in IBM-MAIN some time
ago.
>
> That new ability to read VBS using REXX is since z/OS v2.1 and REXX can
also read DSORG=U and DSORG=VS too.
>
> Look also at Redbook 'IBM z/OS Version 2 Release 1 Technical Updates'.
(dated 2014)
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Andrew Rowley]

On 24/04/2018 3:04 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:

Black Hill Software also has some SMF reporting tools which look pretty
nice.


Thanks for the mention.

EasySMF includes reports to shows rolling 4 hour average service by 
service class, report class and even job name to help you see exactly 
what contributed to the MSU peaks.


There is a free 30 day trial which would probably answer the original 
poster's question:

http://www.blackhillsoftware.com/downloads/easysmf/

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMF record analyze

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:

>https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/processing_vbs_data_with_rexx?lang=en
> 
>Believe REXX can read VBS... since v2r2 or something.

Yes, I forgot about this which were also discussed in IBM-MAIN some time ago.

That new ability to read VBS using REXX is since z/OS v2.1 and REXX can also 
read DSORG=U and DSORG=VS too.

Look also at Redbook 'IBM z/OS Version 2 Release 1 Technical Updates'. (dated 
2014)

Groete / Greetings
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMF record analyze

[Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh]

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/processing_vbs_data_with_rexx?lang=en
 

– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMF record analyze

Believe REXX can read VBS... since v2r2 or something.

– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

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Sent: 24 April 2018 09:48
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMF record analyze

Oren, Yifat wrote:

>Take a look at:
>http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/applicationdevelopmen
>t/rexx_smf_part3/?page=1 I've used the Rexx code sample in this article 
>as a good starting point for analyzing SMF 30s.

Thanks for that link. I certainly know that REXX can't read SMF records 
directly, but I see an old trick there. IDCAMS REPRO to a DSORG format which 
REXX can use to read in raw SMF data. I see also those two short functions 
where it can convert SMF date/time into readable format. Interesting that REXX 
has all those fine bit/byte handling functions.

Many thanks.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMF record analyze

[Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh]

Believe REXX can read VBS... since v2r2 or something.

– Vignesh
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMF record analyze

Oren, Yifat wrote:

>Take a look at:
>http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/applicationdevelopmen
>t/rexx_smf_part3/?page=1 I've used the Rexx code sample in this article
>as a good starting point for analyzing SMF 30s.

Thanks for that link. I certainly know that REXX can't read SMF records 
directly, but I see an old trick there. IDCAMS REPRO to a DSORG format which 
REXX can use to read in raw SMF data. I see also those two short functions 
where it can convert SMF date/time into readable format. Interesting that REXX 
has all those fine bit/byte handling functions.

Many thanks.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Oren, Yifat wrote:

>Take a look at: 
>http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/applicationdevelopment/rexx_smf_part3/?page=1
>I've used the Rexx code sample in this article as a good starting point for 
>analyzing SMF 30s.

Thanks for that link. I certainly know that REXX can't read SMF records 
directly, but I see an old trick there. IDCAMS REPRO to a DSORG format which 
REXX can use to read in raw SMF data. I see also those two short functions 
where it can convert SMF date/time into readable format. Interesting that REXX 
has all those fine bit/byte handling functions.

Many thanks. 

Groete / Greetings
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Oren, Yifat]

Hi,

Take a look at: 
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/applicationdevelopment/rexx_smf_part3/?page=1

I've used the Rexx code sample in this article as a good starting point for 
analyzing SMF 30s.

HTH,
Yifat

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Of venkat kulkarni
Sent: 19 April 2018 21:30
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Subject: Re: SMF record analyze

Thanks for reply.

Yes, i extracted SMF 30 into flat file and i am aware of this  SMF 30 along
with other record number.

But issue is to analyze history of batch job along with CPU usage for these
jobs to know which one consumed more CPU during that time .



On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

> You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into a
> new file.
>
> You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the whole
> picture.
>
> Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
> Behalf Of
> > venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: SMF record analyze
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU
> usage
> > reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to
> analyze
> > our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
> >
> > But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
> possible
> > that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our monthly
> > smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs and
> CPU
> > used by these jobs.
> >
> >
> > Please help.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Venkat
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Mike Schwab]

I would suspect some accounting program going through every account
and calculating late charges on accounts not paid by the 10th of the
month.  Look for a job that only runs on the 10th.  Or a batch job
step that takes almost no time except on the 10th.  Or a batch job
step that is considerably raised on the 10th above other days.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:19 PM, venkat kulkarni
 wrote:
> Hello Group,
>
> we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU usage
> reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to analyze
> our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
>
> But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
> possible that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our
> monthly smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs
> and CPU used by these jobs.
>
>
> Please help.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Venkat
>
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Kirk Wolf]

MXG is a good product and has always provided excellent support as to what
the SMF records mean.   They have an option where you can run it with SAS
(or WPS I believe) on a PC or server.

Black Hill Software also has some SMF reporting tools which look pretty
nice.

We recently tested Pacific Systems Group SMF Writer to analyze OMVS SMF30
records for a client issue.
It worked very well for our quick and dirty purposes, and has maps for all
of the important SMF records and has a nice 4GL (something like EZTrieve)
which is trivial to learn.
See:   http://www.pacsys.com/smf/
Also:   http://www.pacsys.com/smf/smf30_v1r11.htm



Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
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On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Ron hawkins <ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Venkat,
>
> There have been some recommendations to MXG with SAS to do the analysis,
> and I think that is the best way to go.
>
> However, from the framing of your question, I think there would be a large
> learning curve if you were to start doing this from scratch. Not just
> learning SAS (MXG is easy), but what to look for in the analysis itself.
> For example, you probably want to be using the Type 30 interval records,
> and make sure you include STC in the captured records (DFSMShsm may be the
> culprit.)
>
> I would suggest bringing in a consultant or company to do the analysis and
> recommendations.
>
> Ron
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] SMF record analyze
>
> Hello Group,
>
> we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU
> usage reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to
> analyze our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
>
> But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
> possible that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our
> monthly smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs
> and CPU used by these jobs.
>
>
> Please help.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Venkat
>
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Ron hawkins]

Venkat,

There have been some recommendations to MXG with SAS to do the analysis, and I 
think that is the best way to go.

However, from the framing of your question, I think there would be a large 
learning curve if you were to start doing this from scratch. Not just learning 
SAS (MXG is easy), but what to look for in the analysis itself. For example, 
you probably want to be using the Type 30 interval records, and make sure you 
include STC in the captured records (DFSMShsm may be the culprit.)

I would suggest bringing in a consultant or company to do the analysis and 
recommendations.

Ron

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venkat kulkarni
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [IBM-MAIN] SMF record analyze

Hello Group,

we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU usage 
reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to analyze our 
batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.

But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it possible 
that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our monthly smfdump 
and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs and CPU used by 
these jobs.


Please help.

Thanks & Regards
Venkat

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Re: SMF record analyze

[Edward Finnell]

If you already have SAS. An alternative is to use MXG on your hefty PC
with SAS. Have shared DASD reduces transfer of large volumes of data.
 
There's also the RMF Spreadsheet Reporter for RMF data that will take RMF 
records and flow them into EXcel spreadsheet for pretty graphics.
 
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/rmf/tools/rmftools.html
 
In a message dated 4/19/2018 1:44:38 PM Central Standard Time, gib...@wsu.edu 
writes:

 
It's called MXG. MXG is very reasonably priced.

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Re: SMF record analyze

[Martin Packer]

RMF doesn’t know SMF 30. If you can use zBNA then it might be of some value
here - as zBNA certainly does know SMF 30.

But I WOULD start with RMF to get the bigger picture. Unless you already
have, of course. :-)

Cheers, Martin

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> On 20 Apr 2018, at 02:32, venkat kulkarni <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for reply.
>
> Yes, i extracted SMF 30 into flat file and i am aware of this  SMF 30
along
> with other record number.
>
> But issue is to analyze history of batch job along with CPU usage for
these
> jobs to know which one consumed more CPU during that time .
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Lizette Koehler
<stars...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into a
>> new file.
>>
>> You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the
whole
>> picture.
>>
>> Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this
>>
>> Lizette
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
>> Behalf Of
>>> venkat kulkarni
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: SMF record analyze
>>>
>>> Hello Group,
>>>
>>> we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU
>> usage
>>> reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to
>> analyze
>>> our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
>>>
>>> But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
>> possible
>>> that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our monthly
>>> smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs and
>> CPU
>>> used by these jobs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please help.
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> Venkat
>>>
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Gibney, Dave]

It's called MXG. MXG is very reasonably priced. 

> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SMF record analyze
> 
> Thanks for reply.
> 
> Yes, i extracted SMF 30 into flat file and i am aware of this  SMF 30 along 
> with
> other record number.
> 
> But issue is to analyze history of batch job along with CPU usage for these
> jobs to know which one consumed more CPU during that time .
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Lizette Koehler
> <stars...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into
> > a new file.
> >
> > You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the
> > whole picture.
> >
> > Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > Behalf Of
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> > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
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> > > Subject: SMF record analyze
> > >
> > > Hello Group,
> > >
> > > we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our
> > > MSU
> > usage
> > > reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to
> > analyze
> > > our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
> > >
> > > But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
> > possible
> > > that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our
> > > monthly smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of
> > > batch jobs and
> > CPU
> > > used by these jobs.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please help.
> > >
> > > Thanks & Regards
> > > Venkat
> > >
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Re: SMF record analyze

[venkat kulkarni]

Thanks for reply.

Yes, i extracted SMF 30 into flat file and i am aware of this  SMF 30 along
with other record number.

But issue is to analyze history of batch job along with CPU usage for these
jobs to know which one consumed more CPU during that time .



On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

> You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into a
> new file.
>
> You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the whole
> picture.
>
> Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
> Behalf Of
> > venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: SMF record analyze
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU
> usage
> > reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to
> analyze
> > our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
> >
> > But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
> possible
> > that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our monthly
> > smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs and
> CPU
> > used by these jobs.
> >
> >
> > Please help.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Venkat
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Lizette Koehler]

You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into a new 
file.

You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the whole 
picture.

Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this 

Lizette


> -Original Message-
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> venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: SMF record analyze
> 
> Hello Group,
> 
> we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU usage
> reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to analyze
> our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
> 
> But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it possible
> that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our monthly
> smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs and CPU
> used by these jobs.
> 
> 
> Please help.
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> Venkat
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SMF record analyze

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello Group,

we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU usage
reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to analyze
our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.

But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
possible that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our
monthly smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs
and CPU used by these jobs.


Please help.

Thanks & Regards
Venkat

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