Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-12 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
(Re-posting because ???)

I can't locate the original post in this saga, which mentioned a lot of 'no 
applicable FMID' messages. I'm curious how that happened. When we order general 
(mass) maintenance, RECEIVE FROMNETWORK examines our SMPE environment and looks 
only for PTFs that are in fact applicable. It ignores fixes that are already 
RECEIVED and chooses fixes as needed by installed products. There should be 
very few 'no applicable' messages. The reported problem calls into question 
OP's ordering process. 

Specifically, if specific PTFs are ordered by number, it's up to the customer 
to vet the list. The only situation I can recall that requires this manual 
intervention is the rare case where a product cannot be APPLIED because of an 
error hold on the FMID itself. In that case, RECEIVE FROMNETWORK does not 
acknowledge the need for maintenance because the FMID is not installed. The 
fixing PTF must be ordered and installed by name along with the FMID, after 
which RFN will resume its role.

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I really appreciate everyone's help here!
The issue I had I believe was that I failed to specify FORFMID.
However, I need to take a step back and review my SMPe environment.
The CSI was handed off to me and I am finding some things wrong, like missing 
FMIDs for some of my base products.
thank you
Bill

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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-12 Thread Bill Giannelli
I really appreciate everyone's help here!
The issue I had I believe was that I failed to specify FORFMID.
However, I need to take a step back and review my SMPe environment.
The CSI was handed off to me and I am finding some things wrong, like missing 
FMIDs for some of my base products.
thank you
Bill

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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
This list doesn't do attachments.

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> I attached the  apply check and the nonapply list
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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
really need to see more than just your apply control cards, and IIRC that 

APPLY PTFS for a new FMIND ( function ) will not apply the FMID you need unless 
you specify APPLY FORFMID. 


show the entire apply smpprts and smpout 
show the FMID received successfully also 


Carmen Vitullo 

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APPLY PTFS 
BYPASS( 
HOLDSYSTEM(ACTION,AO,DB2BIND,DEP,DOC,IPL,MULTSYS)) 
GROUPEXTEND CHECK . 

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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
I attached the  apply check and the nonapply list

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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
APPLY PTFS   
BYPASS( 
HOLDSYSTEM(ACTION,AO,DB2BIND,DEP,DOC,IPL,MULTSYS))  
GROUPEXTEND CHECK . 

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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Allan Staller
Wrong  Global zone specified?

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I ran a GIMSUP download, unpack, receive which ran clean. I see the received 
ptfs in a LIST NOAPPLY. But when I run theAPPLY I get "NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE 
OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY".
What could I be doing wrong?
thanks
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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Those are not the messages I would like to see

1)  Provide the APPLY Statement in full.
2)  Provide all messages from the APPLY Function from SMOUT DD statement

This will help us see what the issues might be.

Sometimes when you do an APPLY it is for the incorrect FMID or the wrong SREL.

We would like to see something like this

. APPLY 
. GROUP 
. PTFS 
. BYPASS ( 
. HOLDSYSTEM 
. ) 
. NOJCLINREPORT 
. RETRY ( YES ) 
. . 
. 
.GIM42001I THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS FOR SYSMOD UI68880 WERE NOT SATISFIED, BUT 
. WERE IGNORED BECAUSE THE BYPASS OPERAND WAS SPECIFIED. PROCESSING 
. CONTINUES. 
.GIM35966I SYSTEM HOLD ACTION ORIGINATED BY SYSMOD UI68880 WAS BYPASSED. 
.GIM35966I SYSTEM HOLD DOC ORIGINATED BY SYSMOD UI68880 WAS BYPASSED. 
.GIM42001I THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS FOR SYSMOD UI68931 WERE NOT SATISFIED, BUT 
. WERE IGNORED BECAUSE THE BYPASS OPERAND WAS SPECIFIED. PROCESSING 
. CONTINUES.



Liette


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GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS1 FOR
GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS2 FOR
GIM24801S ** NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY COMMAND.  
GIM59606IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR EXCLUSIVE USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.GLOBAL.C
GIM59607IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS FOR 

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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Ditto, I'd like to also see what was actually received, this is a new product 
IIRC, so did the FMID actually get received+PTF's ? 
show what actually got received would also help 


Carmen Vitullo 

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And the output from smpout and smprpt 

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> Show the APPLY statement. 
> 
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 12:27:00 -0500 Bill Giannelli  
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> 
> :>GIM59603I ENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF 
> OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS1 FOR 
> :>GIM59603I ENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF 
> OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS2 FOR 
> :>GIM24801S ** NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE 
> APPLY COMMAND. 
> :>GIM59606I DEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR EXCLUSIVE USE OF 
> OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.GLOBAL.C 
> :>GIM59607I DEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF 
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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
And the output from smpout and smprpt

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> Show the APPLY statement.
> 
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 12:27:00 -0500 Bill Giannelli 
> wrote:
> 
> :>GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF
> OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS1 FOR
> :>GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF
> OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS2 FOR
> :>GIM24801S ** NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE
> APPLY COMMAND.
> :>GIM59606IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR EXCLUSIVE USE OF
> OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.GLOBAL.C
> :>GIM59607IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF
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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Show the APPLY statement.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 12:27:00 -0500 Bill Giannelli 
wrote:

:>GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS1 
FOR
:>GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS2 
FOR
:>GIM24801S ** NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY 
COMMAND.  
:>GIM59606IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR EXCLUSIVE USE OF 
OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.GLOBAL.C
:>GIM59607IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS 
FOR 
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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread David Spiegel

Maybe the Zone is set to an incorrect Zone. (i.e SET BDY(TZONE).)

On 2020-06-11 13:17, Bill Giannelli wrote:

I ran a GIMSUP download, unpack, receive which ran clean. I see the received ptfs in a 
LIST NOAPPLY. But when I run theAPPLY I get "NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS 
SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY".
What could I be doing wrong?
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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS1 FOR
GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS2 FOR
GIM24801S ** NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY COMMAND.  
GIM59606IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR EXCLUSIVE USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.GLOBAL.C
GIM59607IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS FOR 

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Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Show us the output.  Possible there are some control cards that are needed or 
the PTFs do not match the SREL or FIMDs in your global zone.

But the GIM Messages would be very helpful to see

Lizette


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I ran a GIMSUP download, unpack, receive which ran clean. I see the received 
ptfs in a LIST NOAPPLY. But when I run theAPPLY I get "NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE 
OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY".
What could I be doing wrong?
thanks
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SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
I ran a GIMSUP download, unpack, receive which ran clean. I see the received 
ptfs in a LIST NOAPPLY. But when I run theAPPLY I get "NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE 
OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY".
What could I be doing wrong?
thanks
Bill

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