Re: SMPe securing zones

2023-03-28 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> I've found that GIMSMP opens the datasets in UPDATE mode, so the user will 
> still need UPDATE or higher access.  READ access fails when the program 
> starts.

That is not true for all SMP/E commands.  LIST for example, or the REPORT 
commands, and the ISPF Query dialog, definitely open the SMPCSI data sets in 
READ mode.  But if you're complaining about APPLY CHECK, then yes, APPLY CHECK 
does open the SMPCSI data sets for UPDATE.

Kurt Quackenbush
IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  |  ku...@us.ibm.com

Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Re: SMPe securing zones

2023-03-27 Thread Mark Jacobs
That's disappointing. It's not being done now, but another good way to handle 
that problem is to enhance the GIM.* Facility class profiles to include zone 
support for commands. User can run certain zone altering SMP/e commands against 
TZONE1, but not TZONE2. Something like that. 

Mark Jacobs 

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--- Original Message ---
On Monday, March 27th, 2023 at 5:39 PM, Matthew Stitt 
 wrote:


> I've found that GIMSMP opens the datasets in UPDATE mode, so the user will 
> still need UPDATE or higher access. READ access fails when the program starts.
> 
> I've growled that GIMSMP needs to open in READ mode, then close/open in the 
> desired UPDATE mode if needed.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:50:28 +, Mark Jacobs markjac...@protonmail.com 
> wrote:
> 
> > If you have those zones in their own CSI datasets, you can use your 
> > security system just to allow READ access.
> > 
> > Mark Jacobs
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> > --- Original Message ---
> > On Monday, March 27th, 2023 at 9:46 AM, Bill Giannelli 
> > billgianne...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > > I want to create another TARGET and DLIB zone for another level of 
> > > maintenance.
> > > I am currently, showing "newbie" offshore folks our SMPe environment.
> > > Is there a way to "secure" the newly created TARGET and DLIB zones so 
> > > they are not inadvertently updated?
> > > thanks
> > > Bill
> 
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Re: SMPe securing zones

2023-03-27 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've found that GIMSMP opens the datasets in UPDATE mode, so the user will 
still need UPDATE or higher access.  READ access fails when the program starts.

I've growled that GIMSMP needs to open in READ mode, then close/open in the 
desired UPDATE mode if needed.

Matthew

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:50:28 +, Mark Jacobs  
wrote:

>If you have those zones in their own CSI datasets, you can use your security 
>system just to allow READ access.
>
>Mark Jacobs 
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>--- Original Message ---
>On Monday, March 27th, 2023 at 9:46 AM, Bill Giannelli 
> wrote:
>
>
>> I want to create another TARGET and DLIB zone for another level of 
>> maintenance.
>> I am currently, showing "newbie" offshore folks our SMPe environment.
>> Is there a way to "secure" the newly created TARGET and DLIB zones so they 
>> are not inadvertently updated?
>> thanks
>> Bill

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Re: SMPe securing zones

2023-03-27 Thread Mark Jacobs
If you have those zones in their own CSI datasets, you can use your security 
system just to allow READ access.

Mark Jacobs 


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--- Original Message ---
On Monday, March 27th, 2023 at 9:46 AM, Bill Giannelli 
 wrote:


> I want to create another TARGET and DLIB zone for another level of 
> maintenance.
> I am currently, showing "newbie" offshore folks our SMPe environment.
> Is there a way to "secure" the newly created TARGET and DLIB zones so they 
> are not inadvertently updated?
> thanks
> Bill
> 
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Re: SMPe securing zones

2023-03-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why not give them read-only access?


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Subject: SMPe securing zones

I want to create another TARGET and DLIB zone for another level of maintenance.
I am currently, showing "newbie" offshore folks our SMPe environment.
Is there a way to "secure" the newly created TARGET and DLIB zones so they are 
not inadvertently updated?
thanks
Bill

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SMPe securing zones

2023-03-27 Thread Bill Giannelli
I want to create another TARGET and DLIB zone for another level of maintenance.
I am currently, showing "newbie" offshore folks our SMPe environment.
Is there a way to "secure" the newly created TARGET and DLIB zones so they are 
not inadvertently updated?
thanks
Bill

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