Re: Tape dataset tracking
The scratch would have uncataloged the tape. Need to recatalog. On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:37 AM Max Smith wrote: > > Peter, > > Is the data set listed the data set you are looking for? Is this a real tape > or virtual? Is the volume listed as scratch? or Private? TS7700 or other? > > Max > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tape dataset tracking
Peter, After doing some additional checking, RMM does work as I thought. RMM leaves the data set record around even if the data set expired. RMM only deletes the data set record if the volume is picked up as a scratch volume and reused. That would mean the data set you are looking for has been overwritten and inaccessible. Max -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tape dataset tracking
Peter, Is the data set listed the data set you are looking for? Is this a real tape or virtual? Is the volume listed as scratch? or Private? TS7700 or other? Max -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tape dataset tracking
Max I was able to list based on the tape volser but not able to list using dataset name. On Thu, 13 Feb, 2020, 7:55 PM Max Smith, wrote: > As has been indicated it does depend on virtual or real tape and if it is > real tape has it been reused. > > In RMM you can do a LISTDATASET command for the data set, I believe it > still will exist if the tape hasn't been reused. If it is there then it > will show the volser the data set was written to and then you could do an > RMM LISTVOLUME command and see if it is still scratch. > > Depending on all that you may be able to put the tape back in Master > status and get the data set back. Again it all depends.. > > Max DFSMS Development > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tape dataset tracking
As has been indicated it does depend on virtual or real tape and if it is real tape has it been reused. In RMM you can do a LISTDATASET command for the data set, I believe it still will exist if the tape hasn't been reused. If it is there then it will show the volser the data set was written to and then you could do an RMM LISTVOLUME command and see if it is still scratch. Depending on all that you may be able to put the tape back in Master status and get the data set back. Again it all depends.. Max DFSMS Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tape dataset tracking
Hi Brian, Maybe, (Warning: Bad pun ahead!) you could go by an old nursery rhyme "Pease porridge in the pot, nine days (h)old". Regards, David On 2020-02-13 03:33, Brian Fraser wrote: The answer is "it depends".. How often do you run scratch processing? What hardware was the tape written to? What other settings are in place on that hardware? For instance, if it was written to a TS7700, then you need to also check the setting for "Expire Hold" on the scratch category. I have ours set to "8 days hold". This means that a scratch tape is still usable/recoverable for upto 8 days after it is scratched. Any longer than that and the TS7700 removes the data associated with the virtual volume. Regards Brian On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 12:54, Peter wrote: Hello We do run HSM and RMM. One of our user has created a dataset on a tape with retention period of 2 days (almost 20 days back). Is it possible to track when it got deleted by running any kind of report from RMM ? Is it still possible to recover ? Apology for asking a dummy question. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tape dataset tracking
The answer is "it depends".. How often do you run scratch processing? What hardware was the tape written to? What other settings are in place on that hardware? For instance, if it was written to a TS7700, then you need to also check the setting for "Expire Hold" on the scratch category. I have ours set to "8 days hold". This means that a scratch tape is still usable/recoverable for upto 8 days after it is scratched. Any longer than that and the TS7700 removes the data associated with the virtual volume. Regards Brian On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 12:54, Peter wrote: > Hello > > We do run HSM and RMM. > > One of our user has created a dataset on a tape with retention period of 2 > days (almost 20 days back). > > Is it possible to track when it got deleted by running any kind of report > from RMM ? > > Is it still possible to recover ? > > Apology for asking a dummy question. > > Peter > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Tape dataset tracking
Hello We do run HSM and RMM. One of our user has created a dataset on a tape with retention period of 2 days (almost 20 days back). Is it possible to track when it got deleted by running any kind of report from RMM ? Is it still possible to recover ? Apology for asking a dummy question. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
