Re: Tivoli SA

2012-10-05 Thread Brian Westerman
This isn't meant as a marketing thing, but one of the best selling point we 
have for our System Automation software is that the cost is less than 5% (a lot 
less) of what IBM/CA etc. charges for the same function(s).  IBM makes it even 
easier for us by requiring Netview thus adding a whole lot of extra resource 
consumption into the mix.  I would guess that more than 2/3 of our clients have 
had the IBM or CA automation software before they came to us.

Brian 

Syzygy Incorporated
www.SyzygyInc.com

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AW: Tivoli SA

2012-10-05 Thread Uwe Oswald
OK, understood. Do I have to license the Netview product if I want to use SA 
for other purposes than GDPS?

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There is GDPS-only restricted use licensing available for Tivoli System 
Automation and Tivoli NetView for z/OS which may be applicable depending on 
your situation. (Ask your IBM representative.) The IBM program numbers are 
5698-A43 and 5698-A44 as I write this.

Basically you would choose A43 if you need both Tivoli NetView and Tivoli 
System Automation for z/OS to support GDPS/PPRC HyperSwap Manager. You would 
choose A44 if you already have standard Tivoli NetView licensing but you need 
to add Tivoli System Automation for GDPS. You would choose the standard 
licenses if you want both products for multiple purposes, with or without GDPS.


Timothy Sipples
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Tivoli SA

2012-10-04 Thread Uwe Oswald
Hi,

does someone have any experience if IBM System Automation requires Netview as a 
standalone (licensed) product or comes SA with a small, own Netview 
incorporated already?

Thx

Uwe

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Re: Tivoli SA

2012-10-04 Thread Craig . Pace
IBM System Automation requires Netviewyou must license 
both.
 
 
 



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Hi,

does someone have any experience if IBM System Automation requires Netview 
as a standalone (licensed) product or comes SA with a small, own Netview 
incorporated already?

Thx

Uwe

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AW: Tivoli SA

2012-10-04 Thread Uwe Oswald
And with GDPS? GDPS as far as I know is Netview based too and for GDPS you have 
to pay also

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IBM System Automation requires Netviewyou must license both.
 
 
 



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Date:   10/04/2012 08:44
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Hi,

does someone have any experience if IBM System Automation requires Netview as a 
standalone (licensed) product or comes SA with a small, own Netview 
incorporated already?

Thx

Uwe

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Re: Tivoli SA

2012-10-04 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
GDPS is System Automation based, so yes, you need to pay for GDPS, SA and 
Netview. 

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And with GDPS? GDPS as far as I know is Netview based too and for GDPS you have 
to pay also

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IBM System Automation requires Netviewyou must license both.
 
 
 



From:   Uwe Oswald uwe.osw...@zit-consulting.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   10/04/2012 08:44
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Hi,

does someone have any experience if IBM System Automation requires Netview as a 
standalone (licensed) product or comes SA with a small, own Netview 
incorporated already?

Thx

Uwe

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Re: Tivoli SA

2012-10-04 Thread Timothy Sipples1
There is GDPS-only restricted use licensing available for Tivoli System
Automation and Tivoli NetView for z/OS which may be applicable depending on
your situation. (Ask your IBM representative.) The IBM program numbers
are 5698-A43 and 5698-A44 as I write this.

Basically you would choose A43 if you need both Tivoli NetView and Tivoli
System Automation for z/OS to support GDPS/PPRC HyperSwap Manager. You
would choose A44 if you already have standard Tivoli NetView licensing but
you need to add Tivoli System Automation for GDPS. You would choose the
standard licenses if you want both products for multiple purposes, with or
without GDPS.


Timothy Sipples
Consulting Enterprise IT Architect (Based in Singapore)
E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com
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