Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Itschak Mugzach]

Binyamin, i think this mail is targeting Chad (bigendian)...

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בתאריך 6 בפבר 2017 11:14,‏ "Binyamin Dissen" 
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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Binyamin Dissen]

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On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 21:02:10 -0600 Tim Full  wrote:

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Tim Full]

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Bigendian Smalls]

An update on this for those using CentOS or RHEL.   Got it working just fine 
tonight.

The problem exists in the update of glibc to   157.el7_3.1 
The last version that I can make work (of glibc) is  106.el7_2.6

The 106 version of glibc is in the 1511 minor release of CentOS 7.2.   

You’ll likely have to enable that repo and downgrade glibc and a couple other 
glibc packages (e.g. i had to do glibc, glibc-common, glibc-devel, 
glibc-headers)
Î
Good news is nothing else (at least on my systems) had to be uninstalled or 
reverted - those packages (both the i686 & x64 versions) were able to be 
downgraded
without taking anything else along - and i was able to update the rest of the 
system to 7.3.1611 - which is the latest release of Cent.

I wrote a script with the relevant yum commands I’d share - if anyone wants it, 
let me know.

If anyone is having this issue with SUSE and wants me to poke at it, I’d be 
happy to look at that also, let me know.

Regards,

Chad

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Bigendian Smalls]

The issue is with the USB licensing / sw protection system (sentinel  by 
gemalto) and it’s interaction with either a kernel code/module, or library 
update (like a libc etc)
For CentOS anyway, I’ve almost got it narrowed down to the exact update 
(presume it’ll be the same for RedHat etc).  When i get it to the
specific package I’ll post it here.

If you use CentOS and can roll back to 7.2.1511 that seems to work, 7.3.1611 
does not.  I’ve heard that IBM only supports 7.1 release  for CentOS
(despite 7.1 being unsupported and not updated since 1/8/16).  

It is disappointing we’re still discussing this, it was reported publicly over 
a month ago.  

> Is this issue not analogous to "I made changes on my z/OS system, and now
> some critical software product is broken?”
Yep.

> In that case, you would use SMP/E or volume backups to go back.   Isn't
> linux essentially the same (only different)?

Yes it is - but the issue is no one has identified the particular code that 
affects the licensing system.  Lots of times patches are applied w/o rebooting 
and
sometimes the code doesn’t take effect until reboot - so not entirely clear 
which package did the trick.
> 
> For my Linux desktop (Ubuntu), with the package manager (synaptic / apt) it
> is pretty easy to roll back changes (like a kernel version).   I also keep
> an unmounted mirror disk for my OS disk and use a cron job to rsych to it
> automatically on the weekend.   Rolling back the entire OS volume takes
> about 5 minutes using rsync (after booting from a thumb drive).

That’s what I did - but it’s the nuclear option - also in this day and age who 
wants to roll back patches if they don’t have to.  :)

Chad

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Tom Conley]

On 1/20/2017 12:53 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:

Is this issue not analogous to "I made changes on my z/OS system, and now
some critical software product is broken?"

In that case, you would use SMP/E or volume backups to go back.   Isn't
linux essentially the same (only different)?

For my Linux desktop (Ubuntu), with the package manager (synaptic / apt) it
is pretty easy to roll back changes (like a kernel version).   I also keep
an unmounted mirror disk for my OS disk and use a cron job to rsych to it
automatically on the weekend.   Rolling back the entire OS volume takes
about 5 minutes using rsync (after booting from a thumb drive).

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Two words - Clonezilla.  Run it before major Linux updates, restore if 
zPDT gags.


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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Kirk Wolf]

Is this issue not analogous to "I made changes on my z/OS system, and now
some critical software product is broken?"

In that case, you would use SMP/E or volume backups to go back.   Isn't
linux essentially the same (only different)?

For my Linux desktop (Ubuntu), with the package manager (synaptic / apt) it
is pretty easy to roll back changes (like a kernel version).   I also keep
an unmounted mirror disk for my OS disk and use a cron job to rsych to it
automatically on the weekend.   Rolling back the entire OS volume takes
about 5 minutes using rsync (after booting from a thumb drive).

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

Esperanza is Esperanto with all irregularities removed. ;-)

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Field, Alan
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

I think the made up language is Esperanto

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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

Stupid English language. Where is Esperanza when we really need it?

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Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:13 PM
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Subject: (External):Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> license server.
>
> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
>

​I think that the OP, not a native English speaker means "the past tense of 
'hit'", which is still "hit"​



>
>
> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know 
> >dor
> almost a month. We was hited last friday.
>
> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what 
> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux
> system(s) working?
>
> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the 
> 'known problem'?
>
> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb 
> issue after lunux update.'
>

​From another thread: to run the zPDT software, you must use a USB connected 
"token". The proprietary driver for this "token" will not run on many very 
up-to-date Linux kernel levels. ​



>
> While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm 
> just asking probing questions to enable others to help you.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
>

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Itschak Mugzach]

John, that's correct. I am not an not a native English speaker. ;-)

ITschak

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:12 PM, John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht <
> elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
>
> > Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> >
> > >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> > license server.
> >
> > 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
> >
>
> ​I think that the OP, not a native English speaker means "the past tense of
> 'hit'", which is still "hit"​
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know dor
> > almost a month. We was hited last friday.
> >
> > What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what
> > hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux system(s)
> > working?
> >
> > Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the 'known
> > problem'?
> >
> > No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb issue
> > after lunux update.'
> >
>
> ​From another thread: to run the zPDT software, you must use a USB
> connected "token". The proprietary driver for this "token" will not run on
> many very up-to-date Linux kernel levels. ​
>
>
>
> >
> > While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm
> > just asking probing questions to enable others to help you.
> >
> > Groete / Greetings
> > Elardus Engelbrecht
> >
> >
>
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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Field, Alan]

I think the made up language is Esperanto

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 2:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

Stupid English language. Where is Esperanza when we really need it?

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Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> license server.
>
> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
>

​I think that the OP, not a native English speaker means "the past tense of 
'hit'", which is still "hit"​



>
>
> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know 
> >dor
> almost a month. We was hited last friday.
>
> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what 
> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux
> system(s) working?
>
> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the 
> 'known problem'?
>
> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb 
> issue after lunux update.'
>

​From another thread: to run the zPDT software, you must use a USB connected 
"token". The proprietary driver for this "token" will not run on many very 
up-to-date Linux kernel levels. ​



>
> While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm 
> just asking probing questions to enable others to help you.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
>

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

Stupid English language. Where is Esperanza when we really need it?

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Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> license server.
>
> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
>

​I think that the OP, not a native English speaker means "the past tense of 
'hit'", which is still "hit"​



>
>
> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know 
> >dor
> almost a month. We was hited last friday.
>
> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what 
> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux 
> system(s) working?
>
> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the 
> 'known problem'?
>
> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb 
> issue after lunux update.'
>

​From another thread: to run the zPDT software, you must use a USB connected 
"token". The proprietary driver for this "token" will not run on many very 
up-to-date Linux kernel levels. ​



>
> While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm 
> just asking probing questions to enable others to help you.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
>

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[John McKown]

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> license server.
>
> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
>

​I think that the OP, not a native English speaker means "the past tense of
'hit'", which is still "hit"​



>
>
> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know dor
> almost a month. We was hited last friday.
>
> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what
> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux system(s)
> working?
>
> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the 'known
> problem'?
>
> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb issue
> after lunux update.'
>

​From another thread: to run the zPDT software, you must use a USB
connected "token". The proprietary driver for this "token" will not run on
many very up-to-date Linux kernel levels. ​



>
> While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm
> just asking probing questions to enable others to help you.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
>

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Re: Open Source vs. propiietary operating systems breaking things. was Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Jack J. Woehr]

John Abell wrote:

ot wishing to antagonize
the Open Source community as there are many good and stable products out
there, some of which we use on a daily basis,


Ubuntu rivals ... nay, surpasses Microsoft.

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Well yes.  However, and in my experience, it is easy to chase "Mother" who
does actually respond.  We have reported problems to many other vendors
where there is never a response.  With well over 52 years of experience in
IT,  50 with the mainframe, starting with prerelease PCP 1 on a 360/40, I
doubt that I have missed many new release failures nor the ones on all of
the other different platforms that we run here.  Not wishing to antagonize
the Open Source community as there are many good and stable products out
there, some of which we use on a daily basis, I stand by my comment based on
our many and varied experiences here.

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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Default] On 18 Jan 2017 12:26:59 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com (John Abell) wrote:

>Well that is the ever present risk of Open Source.  Whatever this kernel
change is, it screwed up other things in our environment as well.

As someone who suffered through the PE chains of DFP and who remembers Jamie
Yates of IBM getting up and telling a SHARE session that the early general
availability users of DF/EF catalogs were placing Sev 1 calls before they
had a problem because by the time they got a call back, they would have one,
the risk is not unique to Open Source.
There is a reason many shop do not and did not go to the latest release or
maintenance level.

Clark Morris
>
>We have noted that there is a Kernel update from 6.7 to 6.8.  We are not
going down that road until there is some assurance that the sentinel
software and some other things  that  we use won't fail with this update as
well.
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>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:30 PM
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>
>John.
>Our co figuration is much like yours on a single server. It take about 30
minutes to install centos and zpdt. The mainframe is on different disks so
nothing was lost.
>My concern is the ability of the vendor to fix the problem. It is
unblievable that it takes more than a month so far.
>
>ITschak
>
>?? 18  2017 17:21,? "John Abell" <
john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> ???:
>
>If you cannot back out the recent updates that caused you to end up
>with this problem,  re-install the version RHEL that last worked.  This
>assumes that you have used the practice of making sure that none of you
>zPDT stuff is in distribution directories.  We have a much more complex
>zPDT environment than most but my main tech had the environment back up
>in about
>8 hours without loss of anything in zPDT, z/VM, multiple z/OS Gue

Open Source vs. propiietary operating systems breaking things. was Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Clark Morris]

[Default] On 18 Jan 2017 12:26:59 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com (John Abell) wrote:

>Well that is the ever present risk of Open Source.  Whatever this kernel 
>change is, it screwed up other things in our environment as well.

As someone who suffered through the PE chains of DFP and who remembers
Jamie Yates of IBM getting up and telling a SHARE session that the
early general availability users of DF/EF catalogs were placing Sev 1
calls before they had a problem because by the time they got a call
back, they would have one, the risk is not unique to Open Source.
There is a reason many shop do not and did not go to the latest
release or maintenance level.

Clark Morris
>
>We have noted that there is a Kernel update from 6.7 to 6.8.  We are not going 
>down that road until there is some assurance that the sentinel software and 
>some other things  that  we use won't fail with this update as well.
>
>Cheers,
>John T. Abell  
>Tel:800-295-7608Option 4
>President 
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>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:30 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.
>
>John.
>Our co figuration is much like yours on a single server. It take about 30 
>minutes to install centos and zpdt. The mainframe is on different disks so 
>nothing was lost.
>My concern is the ability of the vendor to fix the problem. It is unblievable 
>that it takes more than a month so far.
>
>ITschak
>
>?? 18  2017 17:21,? "John Abell" < 
>john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> ???:
>
>If you cannot back out the recent updates that caused you to end up with this 
>problem,  re-install the version RHEL that last worked.  This assumes that you 
>have used the practice of making sure that none of you zPDT stuff is in 
>distribution directories.  We have a much more complex zPDT environment than 
>most but my main tech had the environment back up in about
>8 hours without loss of anything in zPDT, z/VM, multiple z/OS Guests and 
>zLinux guests.  The recovery had to be done on 2 full zPDT systems for reasons 
>outside of this discussion.
>
>John T. Abell
>Tel:800-295-7608Option 4
>President
>International:  1-416-593-5578  Option 4
>E-mail:  john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com
>Fax:800-295-7609
>
>International:  1-416-593-5579
>
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>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:36 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.
>
>Elardus,
>
>zPDT is a mainframe emulation product from IBM that we use. the driving system 
>is an enterprise Linux flavor. Linux clients that updated the version for some 
>reason, can't access the license server. versions involved are rhel 7.X, but

Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[John Abell]

Well that is the ever present risk of Open Source.  Whatever this kernel change 
is, it screwed up other things in our environment as well.

We have noted that there is a Kernel update from 6.7 to 6.8.  We are not going 
down that road until there is some assurance that the sentinel software and 
some other things  that  we use won't fail with this update as well.

Cheers,
John T. Abell   
Tel:800-295-7608Option 4
President 
International:  1-416-593-5578  Option 4
E-mail:  john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com
Fax:800-295-7609

International:  1-416-593-5579


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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Itschak Mugzach
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

John.
Our co figuration is much like yours on a single server. It take about 30 
minutes to install centos and zpdt. The mainframe is on different disks so 
nothing was lost.
My concern is the ability of the vendor to fix the problem. It is unblievable 
that it takes more than a month so far.

ITschak

בתאריך 18 בינו 2017 17:21,‏ "John Abell" < 
john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> כתב:

If you cannot back out the recent updates that caused you to end up with this 
problem,  re-install the version RHEL that last worked.  This assumes that you 
have used the practice of making sure that none of you zPDT stuff is in 
distribution directories.  We have a much more complex zPDT environment than 
most but my main tech had the environment back up in about
8 hours without loss of anything in zPDT, z/VM, multiple z/OS Guests and zLinux 
guests.  The recovery had to be done on 2 full zPDT systems for reasons outside 
of this discussion.

John T. Abell
Tel:800-295-7608Option 4
President
International:  1-416-593-5578  Option 4
E-mail:  john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com
Fax:800-295-7609

International:  1-416-593-5579


International Software Products
www.ispinfo.com

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Itschak Mugzach
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

Elardus,

zPDT is a mainframe emulation product from IBM that we use. the driving system 
is an enterprise Linux flavor. Linux clients that updated the version for some 
reason, can't access the license server. versions involved are rhel 7.X, but I 
think suse as well.  we use a memory stick to hold the license.

And, yes, this is a hit.

ITschak

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> license server.
>
> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
>
>
> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know 
> >dor
> almost a month. We was hited last friday.
>
> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what 
> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux
> system(s) working?
>
> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the 
> 'known problem'?
>
> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb 
> issue after lunux update.'
>
> While I'm not curren

Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Itschak Mugzach]

John.
Our co figuration is much like yours on a single server. It take about 30
minutes to install centos and zpdt. The mainframe is on different disks so
nothing was lost.
My concern is the ability of the vendor to fix the problem. It is
unblievable that it takes more than a month so far.

ITschak

בתאריך 18 בינו 2017 17:21,‏ "John Abell" <
john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> כתב:

If you cannot back out the recent updates that caused you to end up with
this problem,  re-install the version RHEL that last worked.  This assumes
that you have used the practice of making sure that none of you zPDT stuff
is in distribution directories.  We have a much more complex zPDT
environment than most but my main tech had the environment back up in about
8 hours without loss of anything in zPDT, z/VM, multiple z/OS Guests and
zLinux guests.  The recovery had to be done on 2 full zPDT systems for
reasons outside of this discussion.

John T. Abell
Tel:800-295-7608Option 4
President
International:  1-416-593-5578  Option 4
E-mail:  john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com
Fax:800-295-7609

International:  1-416-593-5579


International Software Products
www.ispinfo.com

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

Elardus,

zPDT is a mainframe emulation product from IBM that we use. the driving
system is an enterprise Linux flavor. Linux clients that updated the
version for some reason, can't access the license server. versions involved
are rhel 7.X, but I think suse as well.  we use a memory stick to hold the
license.

And, yes, this is a hit.

ITschak

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> license server.
>
> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
>
>
> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know
> >dor
> almost a month. We was hited last friday.
>
> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what
> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux
> system(s) working?
>
> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the
> 'known problem'?
>
> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb
> issue after lunux update.'
>
> While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm
> just asking probing questions to enable others to help you.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[John Abell]

If you cannot back out the recent updates that caused you to end up with this 
problem,  re-install the version RHEL that last worked.  This assumes that you 
have used the practice of making sure that none of you zPDT stuff is in 
distribution directories.  We have a much more complex zPDT environment than 
most but my main tech had the environment back up in about 8 hours without loss 
of anything in zPDT, z/VM, multiple z/OS Guests and zLinux guests.  The 
recovery had to be done on 2 full zPDT systems for reasons outside of this 
discussion.

John T. Abell
Tel:800-295-7608Option 4
President
International:  1-416-593-5578  Option 4
E-mail:  john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com
Fax:800-295-7609

International:  1-416-593-5579


International Software Products
www.ispinfo.com

This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of 
the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or 
disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Itschak Mugzach
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

Elardus,

zPDT is a mainframe emulation product from IBM that we use. the driving system 
is an enterprise Linux flavor. Linux clients that updated the version for some 
reason, can't access the license server. versions involved are rhel 7.X, but I 
think suse as well.  we use a memory stick to hold the license.

And, yes, this is a hit.

ITschak

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> license server.
>
> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
>
>
> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know
> >dor
> almost a month. We was hited last friday.
>
> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what
> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux
> system(s) working?
>
> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the
> 'known problem'?
>
> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb
> issue after lunux update.'
>
> While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm
> just asking probing questions to enable others to help you.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
> --
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> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Itschak Mugzach]

Elardus,

zPDT is a mainframe emulation product from IBM that we use. the driving
system is an enterprise Linux flavor. Linux clients that updated the
version for some reason, can't access the license server. versions involved
are rhel 7.X, but I think suse as well.  we use a memory stick to hold the
license.

And, yes, this is a hit.

ITschak

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of
> license server.
>
> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?
>
>
> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know dor
> almost a month. We was hited last friday.
>
> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what
> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux system(s)
> working?
>
> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the 'known
> problem'?
>
> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb issue
> after lunux update.'
>
> While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm
> just asking probing questions to enable others to help you.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
> --
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Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Itschak Mugzach wrote:

>Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of license 
>server.

'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain?


>I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know dor almost 
>a month. We was hited last friday.

What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what hardware 
and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux system(s) working?

Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the 'known 
problem'?

No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb issue after 
lunux update.'

While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, I'm just 
asking probing questions to enable others to help you.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

[Itschak Mugzach]

Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of license
server.
I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know dor
almost a month. We was hited last friday.

ITschak

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