Re: Subject: non-reusable ASID
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 20:26:26 +0100 Martin Packer wrote: :>To play Devil's Advocate for a moment, there must've once been a reason :>for Db2 to use non-reusable ASIDs. Because, at one time, that was all there was. :>I wonder what that was. :>I further wonder what a "modern" replacement technology would be. Changing SSAR to SSAIR basically - which means saving the sequence number as well. :>Cheers, Martin :> :>Martin Packer :> :>zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM :> :>+44-7802-245-584 :> :>email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com :> :>Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker :> :>Blog: :>https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker :> :>Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/or :> :>https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 :> :> :>Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA :> :> :> :>From: Binyamin Dissen :>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :>Date: 20/08/2019 17:21 :>Subject:Re: Subject: non-reusable ASID :>Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List :> :> :> :>That would be nice, as that would allow users of DB2 to use reusable ASIDs :>as :>well. :> :>On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 07:30:03 -0400 Peter Relson wrote: :> :>:> :>:>Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use :>the :>:>reusable ones when they get recycled? :>:> :>:> :>:>Jim Mulder is, as usual, correct. The answer is "No". :>:> :>:>But maybe you can help those in the future by submitting a requirement :>:>that DB2's components exploit reusable ASIDs. :>:> :>:>Peter Relson :>:>z/OS Core Technology Design -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Subject: non-reusable ASID
To play Devil's Advocate for a moment, there must've once been a reason for Db2 to use non-reusable ASIDs. I wonder what that was. I further wonder what a "modern" replacement technology would be. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/or https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Binyamin Dissen To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 20/08/2019 17:21 Subject: Re: Subject: non-reusable ASID Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List That would be nice, as that would allow users of DB2 to use reusable ASIDs as well. On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 07:30:03 -0400 Peter Relson wrote: :> :>Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the :>reusable ones when they get recycled? :> :> :>Jim Mulder is, as usual, correct. The answer is "No". :> :>But maybe you can help those in the future by submitting a requirement :>that DB2's components exploit reusable ASIDs. :> :>Peter Relson :>z/OS Core Technology Design -- Binyamin Dissen https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.dissensoftware.com=DwICAg=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ=1vWjM6ILYZROeF5ZPsYdHbq-lKPC_ADWm7bKUSIc_ME=0m6hQMn6KXJ2ozEXGSLNX5EexcB2e5027qlBa04PIjw= Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Subject: non-reusable ASID
That would be nice, as that would allow users of DB2 to use reusable ASIDs as well. On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 07:30:03 -0400 Peter Relson wrote: :> :>Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the :>reusable ones when they get recycled? :> :> :>Jim Mulder is, as usual, correct. The answer is "No". :> :>But maybe you can help those in the future by submitting a requirement :>that DB2's components exploit reusable ASIDs. :> :>Peter Relson :>z/OS Core Technology Design -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Subject: non-reusable ASID
We ended up recycling IDISS and that freed up enough non-reusable ASID so we will be able to survive another 2 weeks for our scheduled IPL. Thanks everyone for their help. Dean Nai On 8/20/19, 10:21 AMEDT, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Doug Henry" wrote: > EXTERNAL: Do not open attachments or click on links unless you recognize and > trust the sender. > >On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 11:52:10 +, Nai, Dean wrote: > >Maybe I am confused but I thought the doc( z/OS MVS Programming: Extended >Addressability Guide) Jim Mulder pointed answered the "actual" intent of the >OP question. > >"Note >If there is a request for a reusable ASID but there are no available ASIDs >that were previously used as reusable ASIDs, z/OS® takes an ASID from the pool >of available ordinary ASIDs to satisfy the request." > >Doug > > >Thanks for your responses. >>Dean Nai >>On 8/20/19, 7:30 AMEDT, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter >>Relson" wrote: >> >>> EXTERNAL: Do not open attachments or click on links unless you recognize >>> and trust the sender. >>> >>> >>>Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the >>>reusable ones when they get recycled? >>> >>> >>>Jim Mulder is, as usual, correct. The answer is "No". >>> >>>But maybe you can help those in the future by submitting a requirement >>>that DB2's components exploit reusable ASIDs. >>> >>>Peter Relson >>>z/OS Core Technology Design > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Subject: non-reusable ASID
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 11:52:10 +, Nai, Dean wrote: Maybe I am confused but I thought the doc( z/OS MVS Programming: Extended Addressability Guide) Jim Mulder pointed answered the "actual" intent of the OP question. "Note If there is a request for a reusable ASID but there are no available ASIDs that were previously used as reusable ASIDs, z/OS® takes an ASID from the pool of available ordinary ASIDs to satisfy the request." Doug >Thanks for your responses. >Dean Nai >On 8/20/19, 7:30 AMEDT, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter >Relson" wrote: > >> EXTERNAL: Do not open attachments or click on links unless you recognize >> and trust the sender. >> >> >>Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the >>reusable ones when they get recycled? >> >> >>Jim Mulder is, as usual, correct. The answer is "No". >> >>But maybe you can help those in the future by submitting a requirement >>that DB2's components exploit reusable ASIDs. >> >>Peter Relson >>z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Subject: non-reusable ASID
Thanks for your responses. Dean Nai On 8/20/19, 7:30 AMEDT, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Relson" wrote: > EXTERNAL: Do not open attachments or click on links unless you recognize and > trust the sender. > > >Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the >reusable ones when they get recycled? > > >Jim Mulder is, as usual, correct. The answer is "No". > >But maybe you can help those in the future by submitting a requirement >that DB2's components exploit reusable ASIDs. > >Peter Relson >z/OS Core Technology Design > > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Subject: non-reusable ASID
Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the reusable ones when they get recycled? Jim Mulder is, as usual, correct. The answer is "No". But maybe you can help those in the future by submitting a requirement that DB2's components exploit reusable ASIDs. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: non-reusable ASID
No. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieaa500/ieaa500102.htm Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY > We just ran out of non-reusable ASID and don't have an IPL scheduled > for another week. We have plenty of reusable ASID left. Will things > that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the > reusable ones when they get recycled? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: non-reusable ASID
Yes. Michael Brennan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Nai, Dean Sent: 19 August 2019 14:01 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: non-reusable ASID We just ran out of non-reusable ASID and don't have an IPL scheduled for another week. We have plenty of reusable ASID left. Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the reusable ones when they get recycled? Dean Nai > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: non-reusable ASID
Using you favorite way of looking at health checks find the value for IEA_ASIDS. For instance in SDSF you can use CK command. It will tell you how many days until you run out. You will be surprised how long a period it will actually be. Doug On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:00:38 +, Nai, Dean wrote: >We just ran out of non-reusable ASID and don't have an IPL scheduled for >another week. We have plenty of reusable ASID left. Will things that used all >the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the reusable ones when they get >recycled? > >Dean Nai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
non-reusable ASID
We just ran out of non-reusable ASID and don't have an IPL scheduled for another week. We have plenty of reusable ASID left. Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the reusable ones when they get recycled? Dean Nai > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
