Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
In caluepdh0cuszsusbuzhhtvkh-agnzegolynk6lhdbaueyea...@mail.gmail.com, on 07/02/2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said: The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control the PGM nor the JCL. Then you can spin off segments[1] for early printing or archiving, but I don't know how to reclaim the SPOOL space. [1] $T for JES2; I don't know the JES3 command. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
itzchak - I didn't fully understand the 'CSSL' you mentioned . Shmuel - I do have access to change the JCL , and did try the SPIN but trying to release it got me this : $TS 7987,SPIN,DDNAME=CEEMSG $HASP003 RC=(96),T S7987 SPIN - NOT SPINNABLE also I'm running in z/os 1.10 so the SPIN= is limited to 'NO' \ 'UNALLOC' On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In caluepdh0cuszsusbuzhhtvkh-agnzegolynk6lhdbaueyea...@mail.gmail.com, on 07/02/2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said: The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control the PGM nor the JCL. Then you can spin off segments[1] for early printing or archiving, but I don't know how to reclaim the SPOOL space. [1] $T for JES2; I don't know the JES3 command. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
For CICS extra partition sysout datasets, you can first close all of the indirect tdq's pointing the the DDNAME. IE: for CEEMSG DD, close TDQ CESE: CEMT SET TDQ(CESE) CLO Others DDnames may have more than 1 tdq using it so you will have to find all of them. CEMT I TDQ(C*) will show DDNAMES used if any Then, use transaction ADYN to deallocate. ADYN FREE FILE(CEEMSG) UNALLOC ... to reallocate: ALLOC FILE(CEEMSG) SYSOUT(A) .. to end ADYN, clear screen and use ALT-INSERT-ENTER keys -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Matan Cohen Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC and 'CEEMSG' . On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: 'IXT0' On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.comwrote: What is the sysout dd name? On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: None of the suggestion above seems to help. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Itschak, Nice to hear from you :) I'll try to Use it - Hope it will help me. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matan, This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl provide multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file (The transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the TDQ), the file is released and the next file is used at open time. ITschak On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Thank for the help . I should have provide you with the following info : the STC is a CICS . The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control the PGM nor the JCL. On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In 99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com, on 06/29/2012 at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a vendor STC or in house written? No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP want something in JCL or something in the STC itself? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) --- --- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. --- --- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
thanks , I will try it soon , but I'm wondering what will happen if I'll free the File and application try to write to TDQ? will it be allocate automatically? On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.govwrote: For CICS extra partition sysout datasets, you can first close all of the indirect tdq's pointing the the DDNAME. IE: for CEEMSG DD, close TDQ CESE: CEMT SET TDQ(CESE) CLO Others DDnames may have more than 1 tdq using it so you will have to find all of them. CEMT I TDQ(C*) will show DDNAMES used if any Then, use transaction ADYN to deallocate. ADYN FREE FILE(CEEMSG) UNALLOC ... to reallocate: ALLOC FILE(CEEMSG) SYSOUT(A) .. to end ADYN, clear screen and use ALT-INSERT-ENTER keys -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Matan Cohen Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC and 'CEEMSG' . On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: 'IXT0' On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote: What is the sysout dd name? On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: None of the suggestion above seems to help. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Itschak, Nice to hear from you :) I'll try to Use it - Hope it will help me. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matan, This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl provide multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file (The transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the TDQ), the file is released and the next file is used at open time. ITschak On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Thank for the help . I should have provide you with the following info : the STC is a CICS . The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control the PGM nor the JCL. On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In 99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com, on 06/29/2012 at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a vendor STC or in house written? No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP want something in JCL or something in the STC itself? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) --- --- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. --- --- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
In caluepdg0d1-zceg9dlbgpienh5oevxdqp1ldgsjjog+ar0n...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/28/2012 at 09:29 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said: I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a running STC? Assuming that you want a solution in the STC code rather than in the JCL, use SETPRT DISP=SCHEDULE. If the DD has FREE=CLOSE, DISP=EXTERNAL will also work. the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific STC is holding while avoiding restarting the STC. For JES2 you must ensure that the dataset has its own IOT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
In 99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com, on 06/29/2012 at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a vendor STC or in house written? No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP want something in JCL or something in the STC itself? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
Starting in z/OS 1.13 any JES2 sysout dataset can be spun Add the keyword SPIN=(UNALLOC,xxx) on the sysout JCL. Where xxx is one of: • ‘hh:mm’ – Spin data set at specified time • ‘+hh:mm’ – Spin data set at interval specified • nnn [K|M] – Spin every nnn records • NOCMD – Cannot spin data set by command (current processing) • CMDONLY – Spin only when a command is issued (default) This is also supported in dynamic allocation and TSO ALLOC For the cmdonly option you can issue the JES2 command: $T JQ(xxx),SPIN,DDNAME=ddname – command can spin data set on demand – If you omit DDNAME= all active spin data sets will be spun for that job Gary Puchkoff - IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
release SYSOUT for a running STC
Hi, I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a running STC? the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific STC is holding while avoiding restarting the STC. -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Matan Cohen Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: release SYSOUT for a running STC Hi, I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a running STC? the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific STC is holding while avoiding restarting the STC. So long at it is not open, you can use DYNALLOC to unallocate any DD. How to invoke it depends on the source language. Or, since you specifically said SYSOUT, perhaps you could use the SEGMENT= parameter on the DD statement. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2B6A0/12.59 -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
Look into the SPIN= parm on the DD Statement. Then you could issue: $TS 0990484,SPIN,DDNAME=SYSPRINT We set these up to spin every 120K lines: JESLOG=(SPIN,120K) on the job card. MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
I have successfully used $OS,RECORDS=nn. You can specify which sysout other ways, like OUTGRP=n.n.n -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Matan Cohen Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: release SYSOUT for a running STC Hi, I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a running STC? the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific STC is holding while avoiding restarting the STC. -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
