Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)
Much better. All of the information now appears to be accessible. This was the big issue. However: Selecting PDF download tabs for (each of) z/OS V2.3, V2.2, and V2.1 shows the in-page redirect lists. Unfortunately, each list is shown in a different format. Someone needs to decide on the "correct" presentation format and all of the pages should display with the same format. Sue, Thanks for your support and assistance, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Shumway Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 11:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again) Thanks for the feedback, all. We just rebuilt the page to remove the tables of links to the individual PDFs. Now, instead, most of the element links point to the main element KC pages, which themselves already contain links to the individual PDFs. What do you think? https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzosv2r2-pdf-download=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7Cf5560ecb616c432aff6408d5dddc55fd%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C1%7C636658860774092293=z2WmU8XkiEugbxLvuqtX7nr%2BM3p4hTg9ANwnp%2BTgi00%3D=0 Of course, whatever format we settle on for V2R2, we'll update the V2R1 page to match. Also, this doesn't apply to V2R3 and beyond because those PDFs are sourced from Resource Link instead of the IBM Publications Center, and Resource Link provides its own collection pages. -Sue Shumway -- Sue Shumway z/OS Product Documentation Lead IBM Poughkeepsie chale...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)
Hi Sue, Thanks for soliciting feedback before implementation. A couple thoughts... 1) The link is supposed to point to a main element KC page for z/OS 2.2 (true?), but a number of the PDF links point to z/OS 2.1 manuals, was this by design? 2) Some of the pdf links refer to manuals where the dates do not match the 'last updated' date value, again by design? I guess I've become a little jaded. A few months ago, I could go to a z/OS 2.1 or 2.2 elements and features link and confidently gain access to the pdf I was looking for. It was so reliable that doubts about content/version never crept into my head. More recently, I have recently become conditioned to doubt, so the idea of adding a another data element or two into the mix (last updated), and an ease of use grouping (KC/pdf) on the same page, while appealing, also makes me think additional room for error has been introduced into a format that was simpler, yet one that IBM has struggled with lately. IMO, the problems resulting in numerous errors over the past 1-2 months need to be understood and corrected before changing the UI, even to something representing an improvement. Mike -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Shumway Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again) Thanks for the feedback, all. We just rebuilt the page to remove the tables of links to the individual PDFs. Now, instead, most of the element links point to the main element KC pages, which themselves already contain links to the individual PDFs. What do you think? https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download Of course, whatever format we settle on for V2R2, we'll update the V2R1 page to match. Also, this doesn't apply to V2R3 and beyond because those PDFs are sourced from Resource Link instead of the IBM Publications Center, and Resource Link provides its own collection pages. -Sue Shumway -- Sue Shumway z/OS Product Documentation Lead IBM Poughkeepsie chale...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)
Thanks for the feedback, all. We just rebuilt the page to remove the tables of links to the individual PDFs. Now, instead, most of the element links point to the main element KC pages, which themselves already contain links to the individual PDFs. What do you think? https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download Of course, whatever format we settle on for V2R2, we'll update the V2R1 page to match. Also, this doesn't apply to V2R3 and beyond because those PDFs are sourced from Resource Link instead of the IBM Publications Center, and Resource Link provides its own collection pages. -Sue Shumway -- Sue Shumway z/OS Product Documentation Lead IBM Poughkeepsie chale...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)
ROTFLOL. This is ridiculous, IBM! Case b) below is an intra-page reference; they don't get even this most basic of HTML right. -- Peter Hunkeler >b) Redisplays the same page: >https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download?OpenDocument#DGW -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)
I ran into an issue this weekend looking for a z/OS 2.2 manual. What happened was when I selected a link to a 2.2 manual I got a 2.1 manual. With some hunting I was able to find the 2.2 version of the manual. I reported this issue to the "feedback" link over the weekend. When I was asked "How likely are you to recommend the ibm.com website to a colleague or business partner?" I gave it a 0 (zero). I'm not going to recommend something that is broken. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS Internet Library Broken (again) This seems to be an exact duplicate of the problem repaired a couple of weeks ago! https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www-2D304.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zosInternetLibrary-3FOpenDocument=DwIFAg=9g4MJkl2VjLjS6R4ei18BA=eUhu3PeeWy6RTndlJVKembFjFsvwCa8eeU_gm45NyOc=WeBzk67HDzbrSL1pq4yZsym0yD4vV0ug_LSnOE0ggMY=TXBewknfxUJkrkzg9dgCjYk7CYToJWvWW_Yz0gvCJ-U= Select "Download Books in PDF Format" for z/OS 2.2. Displays URL below: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www-2D304.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zosv2r2-2Dpdf-2Ddownload-3FOpenDocument=DwIFAg=9g4MJkl2VjLjS6R4ei18BA=eUhu3PeeWy6RTndlJVKembFjFsvwCa8eeU_gm45NyOc=WeBzk67HDzbrSL1pq4yZsym0yD4vV0ug_LSnOE0ggMY=93wrbTwQSIQ6dlJXBvdcjkSPSKgkwADnSdyG0wjRl4Q= Select anything from the selections displayed will show: a) HTTP 404 error message b) Redisplays the same page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www-2D304.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zosv2r2-2Dpdf-2Ddownload-3FOpenDocument-23DGW=DwIFAg=9g4MJkl2VjLjS6R4ei18BA=eUhu3PeeWy6RTndlJVKembFjFsvwCa8eeU_gm45NyOc=WeBzk67HDzbrSL1pq4yZsym0yD4vV0ug_LSnOE0ggMY=eKrj2mw7EwztauE4_iZgqzHRAIZiAR4exuRDOdloui0= I did not do as exhaustive of a check for z/OS 2.3 and z/OS 2.1 Selecting z/OS2.1 from the initial page returns http 404 message Selecting z/OS 2.3 seems to work. How many times is IBM going to repeat the same mistake? C'mon IBM. Lets get it together! Think! "If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have the time to do it over?" - John Wooden ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OS Internet Library Broken (again)
This seems to be an exact duplicate of the problem repaired a couple of weeks ago! https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary?OpenDocument Select "Download Books in PDF Format" for z/OS 2.2. Displays URL below: https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download?OpenDocument Select anything from the selections displayed will show: a) HTTP 404 error message b) Redisplays the same page: https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r2-pdf-download?OpenDocument#DGW I did not do as exhaustive of a check for z/OS 2.3 and z/OS 2.1 Selecting z/OS2.1 from the initial page returns http 404 message Selecting z/OS 2.3 seems to work. How many times is IBM going to repeat the same mistake? C'mon IBM. Lets get it together! Think! "If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have the time to do it over?" - John Wooden ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
