Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups
W dniu 2013-05-23 18:57, Mike Schwab pisze: z/TSM has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may or may not work on z/OS 2.1. We backup the root system on the IPL volumes with ADRDSSU. The system HFS/zFS are backed up with ADRDSSU Logical, and is OK since they don't have running applications. Application HFS/zFS are backed up with z/TSM and attempts to use ADRDSSU resulted in hangs due to the quiescent request. z/TSM is being used, has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may not work on z/OS 2.1. Does anyone have a comparison of the backup and restore alternatives that work while the application is running? TSM on AIX, FDR Upstream Unix, CA Disk Backup and Restore for Unix System Services, Others? Harbor Backup aka Betasystems aka Tantia pax BTW: IMHO the real problem is ADRDSSU operates at filesystem level, so lacks granularity at file/directory level. You don't want to restore multi-GB filesystem just to recover single file. Not to mention cumbersome method to avoid overwriting the rest of the filesystem with older version. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2013 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.555.904 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OS Unix System Services Backups
z/TSM has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may or may not work on z/OS 2.1. We backup the root system on the IPL volumes with ADRDSSU. The system HFS/zFS are backed up with ADRDSSU Logical, and is OK since they don't have running applications. Application HFS/zFS are backed up with z/TSM and attempts to use ADRDSSU resulted in hangs due to the quiescent request. z/TSM is being used, has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may not work on z/OS 2.1. Does anyone have a comparison of the backup and restore alternatives that work while the application is running? TSM on AIX, FDR Upstream Unix, CA Disk Backup and Restore for Unix System Services, Others? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups
On 5/23/2013 9:57 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: z/TSM is being used, has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may not work on z/OS 2.1. Does anyone have a comparison of the backup and restore alternatives that work while the application is running? TSM on AIX, FDR Upstream Unix, CA Disk Backup and Restore for Unix System Services, Others? After IBM stabilized TSM for z/OS at the 5.5 level, we deployed a hipersocket-connected RHEL Linux for z image where we currently run TSM 6.2. What's nice is that we can still use TSM clients on z/OS for both backup and administrative purposes and TSM still uses host-attached tape drives. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups
We had a similar dilemma (although never used TSM). The ADRDSSU backups were disruptive to our applications. We've considered using Flashcopy for the backups, but as far as I can tell we can't do a logical backup that way, and the reality is that we typically need 1 or more files from a backup, not the whole filesystem. At the moment we use a pax script to back up to sequential datasets which are then archived by HSM. It works, but it's not pretty, and I hope your question results in some better alternatives. Bart -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS Unix System Services Backups z/TSM has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may or may not work on z/OS 2.1. We backup the root system on the IPL volumes with ADRDSSU. The system HFS/zFS are backed up with ADRDSSU Logical, and is OK since they don't have running applications. Application HFS/zFS are backed up with z/TSM and attempts to use ADRDSSU resulted in hangs due to the quiescent request. z/TSM is being used, has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may not work on z/OS 2.1. Does anyone have a comparison of the backup and restore alternatives that work while the application is running? TSM on AIX, FDR Upstream Unix, CA Disk Backup and Restore for Unix System Services, Others? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups
On 5/23/2013 at 01:17 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: After IBM stabilized TSM for z/OS at the 5.5 level, we deployed a hipersocket-connected RHEL Linux for z image where we currently run TSM 6.2. What's nice is that we can still use TSM clients on z/OS for both backup and administrative purposes and TSM still uses host-attached tape drives. How did you pull off using host-attached tapes when IBM says TSM on Linux for System z doesn't support that? Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote: We backup all of our zFS file systems with ADRDSSU logical backups and have never had any problems. Can you post a sample DFDSS job step (with control cards) for people to look at? -- Mark Jacobs -SPRX054 STEP02 04 4905 115K .00 .002.1 40607 IEF233A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02,,MEDIA4 TMS001 IEF233A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02,,MEDIA4,IDCVVLT.WOMVSX.G0063V00 IECTMS9 A0D6,K35560,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1 ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00 IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,K35560,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4 IEC502E K A0D6,K35560,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 TMS014 IEC502E K A0D6,K35560,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4 TMS001 IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4 IECTMS9 A0D6,Q07554,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1 ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00 IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,Q07554,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4 IEC502E K A0D6,Q07554,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 TMS014 IEC502E K A0D6,Q07554,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4 TMS001 IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4 IECTMS9 A0D6,Q08449,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1 ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00 IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,Q08449,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4 IEC502E K A0D6,Q08449,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 TMS014 IEC502E K A0D6,Q08449,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4 TMS001 IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4 IECTMS9 A0D6,M11531,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1 ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00 IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,M11531,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4 IEC502E K A0D6,M11531,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 TMS014 IEC502E K A0D6,M11531,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4 TMS001 IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4 IECTMS9 A0D6,J86929,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1 ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00 IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,J86929,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4 IEC205I TAPE1,IDCCLWX3,STEP02,FILESEQ=1, COMPLETE VOLUME LIST, 209 VOLS=K35560,Q07554,Q08449,M11531,J86929,TOTALBLOCKS=707025 IEF234E K A0D6,J86929,PVT,IDCCLWX3,STEP02 -SOMVSX STEP02 00 3957K 14537K .90 .23 265.8 7090889 //* //* IDCOMVS DS FOR 'X' SYSTEM //**SOMVSX* //SOMVSX EXEC VBACKUP,VOL1=OMVSX,PARM='ABEND=960' XXVBACKUP PROC EXPDT1=90006,UNIT1=VTAPE,TYPE1=W,MEM1=DUMPPHY1, XX*VBACKUP PROC RETPD1=27,UNIT1=CART2,TYPE1=W,MEM1=DUMPPHY1, XXPREFIX=IDCVVLT,GEN='(+1)',DISP1='NEW,CATLG,DELETE' XX IDCRMGS.PROCLIB(VBACKUP) XXSTEP02 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,COND=EVEN,PARM='ABEND=415' XXSYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* XXSYSMDUMP DD SYSOUT=* XXTAPE1DD DSN=PREFIX..TYPE1VOL1GEN,LABEL=EXPDT=EXPDT1, XX*TAPE1DD DSN=PREFIX..TYPE1VOL1(GEN),RETPD=RETPD1, XX DCB=(IDCRMGS.MODLDSCB),DISP=(DISP1), XX UNIT=UNIT1,VOL=(,,,10) IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DSN=IDCVVLT.WOMVSX(+1),LABEL=EXPDT=90006, DCB=(IDCRMGS.MODLDSCB),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=VTAPE,VOL=(,,,10) //SYSIN DD * X/SYSINDD DSN=IDCRMGS.PARMLIB(MEM1),DISP=SHR //* PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V1R13.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2013.138 03:13 ADR004I (SCH)-PRIME(01), USER ABEND 0001 WILL BE ISSUED ON OCCURRENCE 0001 OF MESSAGE ADR960 DUMP ODD(TAPE1) TOL(ENQF) - DS(INCL(*OMVS.SYSX.**,*OMVSX.SYSX.**) - EXCL(IDCOMVSX.SYSX.TMP.*,IDCOMVSX.SYSX.TMPX.*)) ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP ' ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2013.138 03:13:39 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2013.138 03:13:39 EXECUTION BEGINS ADR801I (001)-DTDSC(01), 2013.138 07:39:28 DATA SET FILTERING IS COMPLETE. 57 OF 57 DATA SETS WERE SELECTED: 0 FAILED SERIALIZATION AND 0 FAILED FOR OTHER REASONS ADR454I (001)-DTDSC(01), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED CLUSTER NAME BESOMVS.SYSX.BESPROD.WEBLOGS.ZFS CATALOG NAME ICFCAT.BESSHR COMPONENT NAME BESOMVS.SYSX.BESPROD.WEBLOGS.ZFS.DATA CLUSTER NAME BESOMVS.SYSX.BESPROD.ZFS CATALOG NAME ICFCAT.BESSHR ... CATALOG NAME ICFCAT.MHDSHR COMPONENT NAME MHDOMVS.SYSX.MHD5662.ZFSTRY.DATA ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2013.138 07:39:28 EXECUTION ENDS ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2013.138 07:39:28 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2013.138 07:39:28 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE. HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from
Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups
On 5/23/2013 10:43 AM, Mark Post wrote: After IBM stabilized TSM for z/OS at the 5.5 level, we deployed a hipersocket-connected RHEL Linux for z image where we currently run TSM 6.2. What's nice is that we can still use TSM clients on z/OS for both backup and administrative purposes and TSM still uses host-attached tape drives. How did you pull off using host-attached tapes when IBM says TSM on Linux for System z doesn't support that? Sorry. That was a misleading statement. They are the identical host tape drives, but we use the FCP attachment for Linux on z instead of the traditional FICON attachment that we use for z/OS. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups
On 5/23/2013 10:46 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote: IBM has a stripped down version of TSM that executes on zOS that does the actual tape I/O. TSM on another platform connects to the TSM running on zOS. Order number? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups
[5698-Z01] TSM for z/OS or [5698-Z02] TSM EE for z/OS Mark Jacobs From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Ed Jaffe [edja...@phoenixsoftware.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups On 5/23/2013 10:46 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote: IBM has a stripped down version of TSM that executes on zOS that does the actual tape I/O. TSM on another platform connects to the TSM running on zOS. Order number? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
