Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-26 Terurut Topik Moamer Khadafi 
Wahihihi agree. Menkeu lebih menyeramkan dibandingkan NSA
LOL

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On Oct 26, 2013 6:26 PM, "Irfan Marzuki"  wrote:

> Satu2 nya penyadapan yg perlu di takuti adalah di sadap istri. Bagi saya
> kalo sampe ketauan sama istri di hp ada transaksi yg ngeluarin duit, pasti
> alamat ga di sapa seminggu. Wkwkwk. ..
>
> irfanics
> On Oct 26, 2013 6:00 PM, "Muhammad Muslih"  wrote:
>
>> Pokoknya ga ada yang aman lah, mau pakai hape atau ga tetap bisa disadap.
>> Dan kenapa mesti takut kalo kita ga salah?
>> Lain hal nya kalo oknum pasti takut disadap karena takut kegiatan nya
>> terungkap.
>>  On Oct 26, 2013 5:42 PM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:
>>
>>> Batman aja bisa wekekek...
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 26, 2013, Andre Tampubolon wrote:
>>>
 Seandainya kita menyimpan data/informasi yg "potensial" disalahgunakan,
 ada baiknya kita encrypt dulu, misal dengan PGP/GPG.
 ..
 ..
 ..
 ..
 Tapi jangan2 NSA juga sudah bisa menjebol GPG? Nah lho :p


 Sent from Samsung Mobile


  Original message 
 From: Abdul Hadi G **
 Date:26/10/2013 13:07 (GMT+07:00)
 To: id-android@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor"
 ke android, iphone dan bb.

 buat saya yg mengkhawatirkan itu bukan krn disadap tapi
 takutnya malah semua data kita disalahgunakan om :)
 cukup menarik jg, dari dulu amerika yg paling menggembar-gemborkan
 pentingnya keamanan privasi, tapi ternyata malah mereka sendiri yg suka
 "mengintip2" privasi orang.

 Salam,
 Hadi G.


 2013/10/26 Sugiono Lie 

> Saya juga gak peduli yah, bahasa gaulnya "Siapa sih gua???" Sampe nsa
> punya kepentingan
> nyadap gue??
>
> Kalo saya itu public figure seperti artis atau politisi, masih ada
> kemungkinan nsa tertarik.
>
> Dan seperti komen diatas, kalo mau aman, jangan pake barang elektronik.
>
>
> On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:21:52 AM UTC+7, Danny Prasetia wrote:
>>
>> Wah kalo untuk saya sendiri sih tidak mempermasalahkan hal seperti
>> ini.
>>
>> Karena data2 yang saya miliki tidak akan menarik dari pihak
>> berkepentingan.
>>
>> Lain halnya jika seseorang punya yang sesuatu yang "kotor" dalam data
>> di smartphonenya hahaha.
>>
>> Toh mereka jga menggunakan data tersebut untuk kepemerintahan kan.
>>
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Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-26 Terurut Topik Irfan Marzuki 
Satu2 nya penyadapan yg perlu di takuti adalah di sadap istri. Bagi saya
kalo sampe ketauan sama istri di hp ada transaksi yg ngeluarin duit, pasti
alamat ga di sapa seminggu. Wkwkwk. ..

irfanics
On Oct 26, 2013 6:00 PM, "Muhammad Muslih"  wrote:

> Pokoknya ga ada yang aman lah, mau pakai hape atau ga tetap bisa disadap.
> Dan kenapa mesti takut kalo kita ga salah?
> Lain hal nya kalo oknum pasti takut disadap karena takut kegiatan nya
> terungkap.
>  On Oct 26, 2013 5:42 PM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:
>
>> Batman aja bisa wekekek...
>>
>> On Saturday, October 26, 2013, Andre Tampubolon wrote:
>>
>>> Seandainya kita menyimpan data/informasi yg "potensial" disalahgunakan,
>>> ada baiknya kita encrypt dulu, misal dengan PGP/GPG.
>>> ..
>>> ..
>>> ..
>>> ..
>>> Tapi jangan2 NSA juga sudah bisa menjebol GPG? Nah lho :p
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Abdul Hadi G **
>>> Date:26/10/2013 13:07 (GMT+07:00)
>>> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor"
>>> ke android, iphone dan bb.
>>>
>>> buat saya yg mengkhawatirkan itu bukan krn disadap tapi
>>> takutnya malah semua data kita disalahgunakan om :)
>>> cukup menarik jg, dari dulu amerika yg paling menggembar-gemborkan
>>> pentingnya keamanan privasi, tapi ternyata malah mereka sendiri yg suka
>>> "mengintip2" privasi orang.
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>> Hadi G.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/10/26 Sugiono Lie 
>>>
 Saya juga gak peduli yah, bahasa gaulnya "Siapa sih gua???" Sampe nsa
 punya kepentingan
 nyadap gue??

 Kalo saya itu public figure seperti artis atau politisi, masih ada
 kemungkinan nsa tertarik.

 Dan seperti komen diatas, kalo mau aman, jangan pake barang elektronik.


 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:21:52 AM UTC+7, Danny Prasetia wrote:
>
> Wah kalo untuk saya sendiri sih tidak mempermasalahkan hal seperti ini.
>
> Karena data2 yang saya miliki tidak akan menarik dari pihak
> berkepentingan.
>
> Lain halnya jika seseorang punya yang sesuatu yang "kotor" dalam data
> di smartphonenya hahaha.
>
> Toh mereka jga menggunakan data tersebut untuk kepemerintahan kan.
>
>  --
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>>
>> --
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>>
>> Imam Moeloek
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-26 Terurut Topik Harry Lim 
Jangan pake produk Amerika kalo ga mau di sadap

Hehehe,

Pake mail dikirim ke pos Indonesia, itu pun masih ga aman, suka hilang
barang.. :p

N4 Google phone
On Oct 26, 2013 7:00 PM, "Muhammad Muslih"  wrote:

> Pokoknya ga ada yang aman lah, mau pakai hape atau ga tetap bisa disadap.
> Dan kenapa mesti takut kalo kita ga salah?
> Lain hal nya kalo oknum pasti takut disadap karena takut kegiatan nya
> terungkap.
>  On Oct 26, 2013 5:42 PM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:
>
>> Batman aja bisa wekekek...
>>
>> On Saturday, October 26, 2013, Andre Tampubolon wrote:
>>
>>> Seandainya kita menyimpan data/informasi yg "potensial" disalahgunakan,
>>> ada baiknya kita encrypt dulu, misal dengan PGP/GPG.
>>> ..
>>> ..
>>> ..
>>> ..
>>> Tapi jangan2 NSA juga sudah bisa menjebol GPG? Nah lho :p
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Abdul Hadi G **
>>> Date:26/10/2013 13:07 (GMT+07:00)
>>> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor"
>>> ke android, iphone dan bb.
>>>
>>> buat saya yg mengkhawatirkan itu bukan krn disadap tapi
>>> takutnya malah semua data kita disalahgunakan om :)
>>> cukup menarik jg, dari dulu amerika yg paling menggembar-gemborkan
>>> pentingnya keamanan privasi, tapi ternyata malah mereka sendiri yg suka
>>> "mengintip2" privasi orang.
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>> Hadi G.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/10/26 Sugiono Lie 
>>>
 Saya juga gak peduli yah, bahasa gaulnya "Siapa sih gua???" Sampe nsa
 punya kepentingan
 nyadap gue??

 Kalo saya itu public figure seperti artis atau politisi, masih ada
 kemungkinan nsa tertarik.

 Dan seperti komen diatas, kalo mau aman, jangan pake barang elektronik.


 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:21:52 AM UTC+7, Danny Prasetia wrote:
>
> Wah kalo untuk saya sendiri sih tidak mempermasalahkan hal seperti ini.
>
> Karena data2 yang saya miliki tidak akan menarik dari pihak
> berkepentingan.
>
> Lain halnya jika seseorang punya yang sesuatu yang "kotor" dalam data
> di smartphonenya hahaha.
>
> Toh mereka jga menggunakan data tersebut untuk kepemerintahan kan.
>
>  --
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Imam Moeloek
>> Proud Owner of SGT 7.7
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
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Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-26 Terurut Topik Muhammad Muslih 
Pokoknya ga ada yang aman lah, mau pakai hape atau ga tetap bisa disadap.
Dan kenapa mesti takut kalo kita ga salah?
Lain hal nya kalo oknum pasti takut disadap karena takut kegiatan nya
terungkap.
 On Oct 26, 2013 5:42 PM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:

> Batman aja bisa wekekek...
>
> On Saturday, October 26, 2013, Andre Tampubolon wrote:
>
>> Seandainya kita menyimpan data/informasi yg "potensial" disalahgunakan,
>> ada baiknya kita encrypt dulu, misal dengan PGP/GPG.
>> ..
>> ..
>> ..
>> ..
>> Tapi jangan2 NSA juga sudah bisa menjebol GPG? Nah lho :p
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Abdul Hadi G **
>> Date:26/10/2013 13:07 (GMT+07:00)
>> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke
>> android, iphone dan bb.
>>
>> buat saya yg mengkhawatirkan itu bukan krn disadap tapi
>> takutnya malah semua data kita disalahgunakan om :)
>> cukup menarik jg, dari dulu amerika yg paling menggembar-gemborkan
>> pentingnya keamanan privasi, tapi ternyata malah mereka sendiri yg suka
>> "mengintip2" privasi orang.
>>
>> Salam,
>> Hadi G.
>>
>>
>> 2013/10/26 Sugiono Lie 
>>
>>> Saya juga gak peduli yah, bahasa gaulnya "Siapa sih gua???" Sampe nsa
>>> punya kepentingan
>>> nyadap gue??
>>>
>>> Kalo saya itu public figure seperti artis atau politisi, masih ada
>>> kemungkinan nsa tertarik.
>>>
>>> Dan seperti komen diatas, kalo mau aman, jangan pake barang elektronik.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:21:52 AM UTC+7, Danny Prasetia wrote:

 Wah kalo untuk saya sendiri sih tidak mempermasalahkan hal seperti ini.

 Karena data2 yang saya miliki tidak akan menarik dari pihak
 berkepentingan.

 Lain halnya jika seseorang punya yang sesuatu yang "kotor" dalam data
 di smartphonenya hahaha.

 Toh mereka jga menggunakan data tersebut untuk kepemerintahan kan.

  --
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>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>
>>
>>  --
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>> Telkomsel
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>>
>
>
> --
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>
> Imam Moeloek
> Proud Owner of SGT 7.7
>
>
>
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Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-26 Terurut Topik Imam Moeloek 
Batman aja bisa wekekek...

On Saturday, October 26, 2013, Andre Tampubolon wrote:

> Seandainya kita menyimpan data/informasi yg "potensial" disalahgunakan,
> ada baiknya kita encrypt dulu, misal dengan PGP/GPG.
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> Tapi jangan2 NSA juga sudah bisa menjebol GPG? Nah lho :p
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Abdul Hadi G **
> Date:26/10/2013 13:07 (GMT+07:00)
> To: id-android@googlegroups.com  'id-android@googlegroups.com');>
> Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke
> android, iphone dan bb.
>
> buat saya yg mengkhawatirkan itu bukan krn disadap tapi
> takutnya malah semua data kita disalahgunakan om :)
> cukup menarik jg, dari dulu amerika yg paling menggembar-gemborkan
> pentingnya keamanan privasi, tapi ternyata malah mereka sendiri yg suka
> "mengintip2" privasi orang.
>
> Salam,
> Hadi G.
>
>
> 2013/10/26 Sugiono Lie  'anatta@gmail.com');>>
>
>> Saya juga gak peduli yah, bahasa gaulnya "Siapa sih gua???" Sampe nsa
>> punya kepentingan
>> nyadap gue??
>>
>> Kalo saya itu public figure seperti artis atau politisi, masih ada
>> kemungkinan nsa tertarik.
>>
>> Dan seperti komen diatas, kalo mau aman, jangan pake barang elektronik.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:21:52 AM UTC+7, Danny Prasetia wrote:
>>>
>>> Wah kalo untuk saya sendiri sih tidak mempermasalahkan hal seperti ini.
>>>
>>> Karena data2 yang saya miliki tidak akan menarik dari pihak
>>> berkepentingan.
>>>
>>> Lain halnya jika seseorang punya yang sesuatu yang "kotor" dalam data di
>>> smartphonenya hahaha.
>>>
>>> Toh mereka jga menggunakan data tersebut untuk kepemerintahan kan.
>>>
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Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-25 Terurut Topik harri 
Saya setuju dgn koment ini..
Semua tergantung dari diri kita sendiri...
Tinggal gmn nge lihat nya aja..

@ h a r r i
Sent from LG G2
On 26 Oct 2013 12:23, "Danny Prasetia"  wrote:

> Wah kalo untuk saya sendiri sih tidak mempermasalahkan hal seperti ini.
>
> Karena data2 yang saya miliki tidak akan menarik dari pihak berkepentingan.
>
> Lain halnya jika seseorang punya yang sesuatu yang "kotor" dalam data di
> smartphonenya hahaha.
>
> Toh mereka jga menggunakan data tersebut untuk kepemerintahan kan.
>
> --
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RE: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-25 Terurut Topik harri 
Gak bawa hape lebih aman kali ya..
Balik ke jaman sd dulu..

@ h a r r i
Sent from LG G2
On 26 Oct 2013 12:21, "hanafi f"  wrote:

> mau aman?
>
> cari :
> - non wifi
> - non kamera
> - non GPS
> - non Bluetooth
> - non NFC
>
> apalagi ya?
>
> --
> | @h4nafi | japri : y...@terserah.de | sent from N900™ |
>
>
> On Oct 26, 2013 12:16 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>
>> HP non OS?
>> Siapa yg bis menjamin?
>> Bagaimana kalo backdoornya itu hardware?
>>
>> Spekulasi aja sih :D
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>
>>
>>  Original message --------
>> From: Abdul Hadi G **
>> Date:26/10/2013 11:01 (GMT+07:00)
>> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke
>> android, iphone dan bb.
>>
>> Hmm... ternyata mereka memang punya akses penuh kemana2... semua data
>> kita termasuk sms, kontak, lokasi dll :|
>>
>> Btw maaf kalau repost dan bukan berita baru, tapi tetap menarik untuk
>> disimak, apalagi setelah baca berita (di http://goo.gl/rY3rWc) bahwa
>> kemarin konselor Jerman ketahuan disadap jg oleh mereka
>>
>> *--*
>>
>> *SPIEGEL has learned from internal NSA documents that the US
>> intelligence agency has the capability of tapping user data from the
>> iPhone, devices using Android as well as BlackBerry, a system previously
>> believed to be highly secure.*
>>
>> The United States’ National Security Agency intelligence-gathering
>> operation is capable of accessing user data from smart phones from all
>> leading manufacturers. Top secret NSA documents that SPIEGEL has seen
>> explicitly note that the NSA can tap into such information on Apple
>> iPhones, BlackBerry devices and Google’s Android mobile operating system.
>>
>> The documents state that it is possible for the NSA to tap most sensitive
>> data held on these smart phones, including contact lists, SMS traffic,
>> notes and location information about where a user has been.
>>
>> The documents also indicate that the NSA has set up specific working
>> groups to deal with each operating system, with the goal of gaining secret
>> access to the data held on the phones.In the internal documents, experts
>> boast about successful access to iPhone data in instances where the NSA is
>> able to infiltrate the computer a person uses to sync their iPhone.
>> Mini-programs, so-called “scripts,” then enable additional access to at
>> least 38 iPhone features.
>>
>> The documents suggest the intelligence specialists have also had similar
>> success in hacking into BlackBerrys. A 2009 NSA document states that it can
>> “see and read SMS traffic.” It also notes there was a period in 2009 when
>> the NSA was temporarily unable to access BlackBerry devices. After the
>> Canadian company acquired another firm the same year, it changed the way in
>> compresses its data. But in March 2010, the department responsible at
>> Britain’s GCHQ intelligence agency declared in a top secret document it had
>> regained access to BlackBerry data and celebrated with the word,
>> “champagne!”
>>
>> The documents also state that the NSA has succeeded in accessing the
>> BlackBerry mail system, which is known to be very secure. This could mark a
>> huge setback for the company, which has always claimed that its mail system
>> is uncrackable.
>>
>> In response to questions from SPIEGEL, BlackBerry officials stated, “It
>> is not for us to comment on media reports regarding alleged government
>> surveillance of telecommunications traffic.” The company said it had not
>> programmed a “‘back door’ pipeline to our platform.”
>>
>> The material viewed by SPIEGEL suggests that the spying on smart phones
>> has not been a mass phenomenon. It has been targeted, in some cases in an
>> individually tailored manner and without the knowledge of the smart phone
>> companies.
>>
>> *Sumber: *
>> http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2013/09/08/spiegel-nsa-has-full-back-door-access-to-iphone-blackberry-and-android-smartphones/
>>
>>
>> Berarti masih lebih aman hp biasa (hp non os) yg cuma bisa telp dan sms
>> aja kali' ya
>>
>>
>> Salam,
>> Hadi G.
>>
>> --
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>> 
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RE: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-25 Terurut Topik Arif Budiman 
Gps kamera nfc ga masalah
Asal jangan pernah online.
Never, ever, ever.

~Going Pro with G Pro~
On 26 Oct 2013 12:21, "hanafi f"  wrote:

> mau aman?
>
> cari :
> - non wifi
> - non kamera
> - non GPS
> - non Bluetooth
> - non NFC
>
> apalagi ya?
>
> --
> | @h4nafi | japri : y...@terserah.de | sent from N900™ |
>
>
> On Oct 26, 2013 12:16 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>
>> HP non OS?
>> Siapa yg bis menjamin?
>> Bagaimana kalo backdoornya itu hardware?
>>
>> Spekulasi aja sih :D
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>
>>
>>  Original message --------
>> From: Abdul Hadi G **
>> Date:26/10/2013 11:01 (GMT+07:00)
>> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke
>> android, iphone dan bb.
>>
>> Hmm... ternyata mereka memang punya akses penuh kemana2... semua data
>> kita termasuk sms, kontak, lokasi dll :|
>>
>> Btw maaf kalau repost dan bukan berita baru, tapi tetap menarik untuk
>> disimak, apalagi setelah baca berita (di http://goo.gl/rY3rWc) bahwa
>> kemarin konselor Jerman ketahuan disadap jg oleh mereka
>>
>> *--*
>>
>> *SPIEGEL has learned from internal NSA documents that the US
>> intelligence agency has the capability of tapping user data from the
>> iPhone, devices using Android as well as BlackBerry, a system previously
>> believed to be highly secure.*
>>
>> The United States’ National Security Agency intelligence-gathering
>> operation is capable of accessing user data from smart phones from all
>> leading manufacturers. Top secret NSA documents that SPIEGEL has seen
>> explicitly note that the NSA can tap into such information on Apple
>> iPhones, BlackBerry devices and Google’s Android mobile operating system.
>>
>> The documents state that it is possible for the NSA to tap most sensitive
>> data held on these smart phones, including contact lists, SMS traffic,
>> notes and location information about where a user has been.
>>
>> The documents also indicate that the NSA has set up specific working
>> groups to deal with each operating system, with the goal of gaining secret
>> access to the data held on the phones.In the internal documents, experts
>> boast about successful access to iPhone data in instances where the NSA is
>> able to infiltrate the computer a person uses to sync their iPhone.
>> Mini-programs, so-called “scripts,” then enable additional access to at
>> least 38 iPhone features.
>>
>> The documents suggest the intelligence specialists have also had similar
>> success in hacking into BlackBerrys. A 2009 NSA document states that it can
>> “see and read SMS traffic.” It also notes there was a period in 2009 when
>> the NSA was temporarily unable to access BlackBerry devices. After the
>> Canadian company acquired another firm the same year, it changed the way in
>> compresses its data. But in March 2010, the department responsible at
>> Britain’s GCHQ intelligence agency declared in a top secret document it had
>> regained access to BlackBerry data and celebrated with the word,
>> “champagne!”
>>
>> The documents also state that the NSA has succeeded in accessing the
>> BlackBerry mail system, which is known to be very secure. This could mark a
>> huge setback for the company, which has always claimed that its mail system
>> is uncrackable.
>>
>> In response to questions from SPIEGEL, BlackBerry officials stated, “It
>> is not for us to comment on media reports regarding alleged government
>> surveillance of telecommunications traffic.” The company said it had not
>> programmed a “‘back door’ pipeline to our platform.”
>>
>> The material viewed by SPIEGEL suggests that the spying on smart phones
>> has not been a mass phenomenon. It has been targeted, in some cases in an
>> individually tailored manner and without the knowledge of the smart phone
>> companies.
>>
>> *Sumber: *
>> http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2013/09/08/spiegel-nsa-has-full-back-door-access-to-iphone-blackberry-and-android-smartphones/
>>
>>
>> Berarti masih lebih aman hp biasa (hp non os) yg cuma bisa telp dan sms
>> aja kali' ya
>>
>>
>> Salam,
>> Hadi G.
>>
>> --
>> ==
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>> 
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[id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-25 Terurut Topik Danny Prasetia 
Wah kalo untuk saya sendiri sih tidak mempermasalahkan hal seperti ini.

Karena data2 yang saya miliki tidak akan menarik dari pihak berkepentingan.

Lain halnya jika seseorang punya yang sesuatu yang "kotor" dalam data di 
smartphonenya hahaha.

Toh mereka jga menggunakan data tersebut untuk kepemerintahan kan.

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RE: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-25 Terurut Topik hanafi f 
mau aman?

cari :
- non wifi
- non kamera
- non GPS
- non Bluetooth
- non NFC

apalagi ya?

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On Oct 26, 2013 12:16 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:

> HP non OS?
> Siapa yg bis menjamin?
> Bagaimana kalo backdoornya itu hardware?
>
> Spekulasi aja sih :D
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Abdul Hadi G **
> Date:26/10/2013 11:01 (GMT+07:00)
> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android,
> iphone dan bb.
>
> Hmm... ternyata mereka memang punya akses penuh kemana2... semua data kita
> termasuk sms, kontak, lokasi dll :|
>
> Btw maaf kalau repost dan bukan berita baru, tapi tetap menarik untuk
> disimak, apalagi setelah baca berita (di http://goo.gl/rY3rWc) bahwa
> kemarin konselor Jerman ketahuan disadap jg oleh mereka
>
> *--*
>
> *SPIEGEL has learned from internal NSA documents that the US intelligence
> agency has the capability of tapping user data from the iPhone, devices
> using Android as well as BlackBerry, a system previously believed to be
> highly secure.*
>
> The United States’ National Security Agency intelligence-gathering
> operation is capable of accessing user data from smart phones from all
> leading manufacturers. Top secret NSA documents that SPIEGEL has seen
> explicitly note that the NSA can tap into such information on Apple
> iPhones, BlackBerry devices and Google’s Android mobile operating system.
>
> The documents state that it is possible for the NSA to tap most sensitive
> data held on these smart phones, including contact lists, SMS traffic,
> notes and location information about where a user has been.
>
> The documents also indicate that the NSA has set up specific working
> groups to deal with each operating system, with the goal of gaining secret
> access to the data held on the phones.In the internal documents, experts
> boast about successful access to iPhone data in instances where the NSA is
> able to infiltrate the computer a person uses to sync their iPhone.
> Mini-programs, so-called “scripts,” then enable additional access to at
> least 38 iPhone features.
>
> The documents suggest the intelligence specialists have also had similar
> success in hacking into BlackBerrys. A 2009 NSA document states that it can
> “see and read SMS traffic.” It also notes there was a period in 2009 when
> the NSA was temporarily unable to access BlackBerry devices. After the
> Canadian company acquired another firm the same year, it changed the way in
> compresses its data. But in March 2010, the department responsible at
> Britain’s GCHQ intelligence agency declared in a top secret document it had
> regained access to BlackBerry data and celebrated with the word,
> “champagne!”
>
> The documents also state that the NSA has succeeded in accessing the
> BlackBerry mail system, which is known to be very secure. This could mark a
> huge setback for the company, which has always claimed that its mail system
> is uncrackable.
>
> In response to questions from SPIEGEL, BlackBerry officials stated, “It is
> not for us to comment on media reports regarding alleged government
> surveillance of telecommunications traffic.” The company said it had not
> programmed a “‘back door’ pipeline to our platform.”
>
> The material viewed by SPIEGEL suggests that the spying on smart phones
> has not been a mass phenomenon. It has been targeted, in some cases in an
> individually tailored manner and without the knowledge of the smart phone
> companies.
>
> *Sumber: *
> http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2013/09/08/spiegel-nsa-has-full-back-door-access-to-iphone-blackberry-and-android-smartphones/
>
>
> Berarti masih lebih aman hp biasa (hp non os) yg cuma bisa telp dan sms
> aja kali' ya
>
>
> Salam,
> Hadi G.
>
> --
> ==
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
> 
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> ==
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> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
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> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>
> --
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> 
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RE: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-25 Terurut Topik Andre Tampubolon 
HP non OS? 
Siapa yg bis menjamin? 
Bagaimana kalo backdoornya itu hardware? 

Spekulasi aja sih :D 


Sent from Samsung Mobile

 Original message From: Abdul Hadi G 
 Date:26/10/2013  11:01  (GMT+07:00) 
To: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: [id-android] WTI 
OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb. 
Hmm... ternyata mereka memang punya akses penuh kemana2... semua data 
kita termasuk sms, kontak, lokasi dll :|

Btw maaf kalau repost dan bukan berita baru, tapi tetap menarik untuk disimak, 
apalagi setelah baca berita (di http://goo.gl/rY3rWc) bahwa kemarin konselor 
Jerman ketahuan disadap jg oleh mereka
--

SPIEGEL has learned from internal NSA documents that the US intelligence agency 
has the capability of tapping user data from the iPhone, devices using Android 
as well as BlackBerry, a system previously believed to be highly secure.
The United States’ National Security Agency intelligence-gathering operation is 
capable of accessing user data from smart phones from all leading 
manufacturers. Top secret NSA documents that SPIEGEL has seen explicitly note 
that the NSA can tap into such information on Apple iPhones, BlackBerry devices 
and Google’s Android mobile operating system.

The documents state that it is possible for the NSA to tap most sensitive data 
held on these smart phones, including contact lists, SMS traffic, notes and 
location information about where a user has been.

The documents also indicate that the NSA has set up specific working groups to 
deal with each operating system, with the goal of gaining secret access to the 
data held on the phones.In the internal documents, experts boast about 
successful access to iPhone data in instances where the NSA is able to 
infiltrate the computer a person uses to sync their iPhone. Mini-programs, 
so-called “scripts,” then enable additional access to at least 38 iPhone 
features.

The documents suggest the intelligence specialists have also had similar 
success in hacking into BlackBerrys. A 2009 NSA document states that it can 
“see and read SMS traffic.” It also notes there was a period in 2009 when the 
NSA was temporarily unable to access BlackBerry devices. After the Canadian 
company acquired another firm the same year, it changed the way in compresses 
its data. But in March 2010, the department responsible at Britain’s GCHQ 
intelligence agency declared in a top secret document it had regained access to 
BlackBerry data and celebrated with the word, “champagne!”

The documents also state that the NSA has succeeded in accessing the BlackBerry 
mail system, which is known to be very secure. This could mark a huge setback 
for the company, which has always claimed that its mail system is uncrackable.

In response to questions from SPIEGEL, BlackBerry officials stated, “It is not 
for us to comment on media reports regarding alleged government surveillance of 
telecommunications traffic.” The company said it had not programmed a “‘back 
door’ pipeline to our platform.”

The material viewed by SPIEGEL suggests that the spying on smart phones has not 
been a mass phenomenon. It has been targeted, in some cases in an individually 
tailored manner and without the knowledge of the smart phone companies.

Sumber: 
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2013/09/08/spiegel-nsa-has-full-back-door-access-to-iphone-blackberry-and-android-smartphones/



Berarti masih lebih aman hp biasa (hp non os) yg cuma bisa telp dan sms aja 
kali' ya 


Salam,
Hadi G.
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Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-25 Terurut Topik Aji 
Belum tentu hp biasa lebih aman...
Kalau mereka punya akses ke operator telco tanpa diketahui melalui program 
khusus yang rumit (contoh : case virus khusus utk melumpuhkan program nuklir 
iran), yaa tetap saja bisa dibaca telp dan sms nya. Atau bisa juga di sadap 
dari jarak jauh (menangkap sinyal di frekuensi tertentu). Makanya ada mobil 
pengacak sinyal yang dekat2 mobil presiden amerika lewat.

Sent on mobile

-Original Message-
From: Abdul Hadi G 
Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:01:04 
To: 
Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: [id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android,
 iphone dan bb.

Hmm... ternyata mereka memang punya akses penuh kemana2... semua data kita
termasuk sms, kontak, lokasi dll :|

Btw maaf kalau repost dan bukan berita baru, tapi tetap menarik untuk
disimak, apalagi setelah baca berita (di http://goo.gl/rY3rWc) bahwa
kemarin konselor Jerman ketahuan disadap jg oleh mereka

*--*

*SPIEGEL has learned from internal NSA documents that the US intelligence
agency has the capability of tapping user data from the iPhone, devices
using Android as well as BlackBerry, a system previously believed to be
highly secure.*

The United States’ National Security Agency intelligence-gathering
operation is capable of accessing user data from smart phones from all
leading manufacturers. Top secret NSA documents that SPIEGEL has seen
explicitly note that the NSA can tap into such information on Apple
iPhones, BlackBerry devices and Google’s Android mobile operating system.

The documents state that it is possible for the NSA to tap most sensitive
data held on these smart phones, including contact lists, SMS traffic,
notes and location information about where a user has been.

The documents also indicate that the NSA has set up specific working groups
to deal with each operating system, with the goal of gaining secret access
to the data held on the phones.In the internal documents, experts boast
about successful access to iPhone data in instances where the NSA is able
to infiltrate the computer a person uses to sync their iPhone.
Mini-programs, so-called “scripts,” then enable additional access to at
least 38 iPhone features.

The documents suggest the intelligence specialists have also had similar
success in hacking into BlackBerrys. A 2009 NSA document states that it can
“see and read SMS traffic.” It also notes there was a period in 2009 when
the NSA was temporarily unable to access BlackBerry devices. After the
Canadian company acquired another firm the same year, it changed the way in
compresses its data. But in March 2010, the department responsible at
Britain’s GCHQ intelligence agency declared in a top secret document it had
regained access to BlackBerry data and celebrated with the word,
“champagne!”

The documents also state that the NSA has succeeded in accessing the
BlackBerry mail system, which is known to be very secure. This could mark a
huge setback for the company, which has always claimed that its mail system
is uncrackable.

In response to questions from SPIEGEL, BlackBerry officials stated, “It is
not for us to comment on media reports regarding alleged government
surveillance of telecommunications traffic.” The company said it had not
programmed a “‘back door’ pipeline to our platform.”

The material viewed by SPIEGEL suggests that the spying on smart phones has
not been a mass phenomenon. It has been targeted, in some cases in an
individually tailored manner and without the knowledge of the smart phone
companies.

*Sumber: *
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2013/09/08/spiegel-nsa-has-full-back-door-access-to-iphone-blackberry-and-android-smartphones/


Berarti masih lebih aman hp biasa (hp non os) yg cuma bisa telp dan sms aja
kali' ya


Salam,
Hadi G.

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[id-android] WTI OOT: NSA punya full akses "backdoor" ke android, iphone dan bb.

2013-10-25 Terurut Topik Abdul Hadi G 
Hmm... ternyata mereka memang punya akses penuh kemana2... semua data kita
termasuk sms, kontak, lokasi dll :|

Btw maaf kalau repost dan bukan berita baru, tapi tetap menarik untuk
disimak, apalagi setelah baca berita (di http://goo.gl/rY3rWc) bahwa
kemarin konselor Jerman ketahuan disadap jg oleh mereka

*--*

*SPIEGEL has learned from internal NSA documents that the US intelligence
agency has the capability of tapping user data from the iPhone, devices
using Android as well as BlackBerry, a system previously believed to be
highly secure.*

The United States’ National Security Agency intelligence-gathering
operation is capable of accessing user data from smart phones from all
leading manufacturers. Top secret NSA documents that SPIEGEL has seen
explicitly note that the NSA can tap into such information on Apple
iPhones, BlackBerry devices and Google’s Android mobile operating system.

The documents state that it is possible for the NSA to tap most sensitive
data held on these smart phones, including contact lists, SMS traffic,
notes and location information about where a user has been.

The documents also indicate that the NSA has set up specific working groups
to deal with each operating system, with the goal of gaining secret access
to the data held on the phones.In the internal documents, experts boast
about successful access to iPhone data in instances where the NSA is able
to infiltrate the computer a person uses to sync their iPhone.
Mini-programs, so-called “scripts,” then enable additional access to at
least 38 iPhone features.

The documents suggest the intelligence specialists have also had similar
success in hacking into BlackBerrys. A 2009 NSA document states that it can
“see and read SMS traffic.” It also notes there was a period in 2009 when
the NSA was temporarily unable to access BlackBerry devices. After the
Canadian company acquired another firm the same year, it changed the way in
compresses its data. But in March 2010, the department responsible at
Britain’s GCHQ intelligence agency declared in a top secret document it had
regained access to BlackBerry data and celebrated with the word,
“champagne!”

The documents also state that the NSA has succeeded in accessing the
BlackBerry mail system, which is known to be very secure. This could mark a
huge setback for the company, which has always claimed that its mail system
is uncrackable.

In response to questions from SPIEGEL, BlackBerry officials stated, “It is
not for us to comment on media reports regarding alleged government
surveillance of telecommunications traffic.” The company said it had not
programmed a “‘back door’ pipeline to our platform.”

The material viewed by SPIEGEL suggests that the spying on smart phones has
not been a mass phenomenon. It has been targeted, in some cases in an
individually tailored manner and without the knowledge of the smart phone
companies.

*Sumber: *
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2013/09/08/spiegel-nsa-has-full-back-door-access-to-iphone-blackberry-and-android-smartphones/


Berarti masih lebih aman hp biasa (hp non os) yg cuma bisa telp dan sms aja
kali' ya


Salam,
Hadi G.

-- 
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ID-Android on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A 

Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : 
http://www.hostune.com

Aturan Umum  ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8
Join Forum  ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id
==
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Android Community " dari Grup Google.
Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, kirim 
email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .