Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-04 Thread Dean Willis


On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Ralph Droms wrote:

So, with all this discussion, I'm still not clear what to expect.   
When I walk up to a train ticket kiosk in Schiphol, should I expect  
to be able to use my US-issued, non-chip credit card (AMEX, VISA - I  
don't care as long as *one* of them works), or should I have a  
fistful of Euros handy?


My US-issued Visa, Mastercard, Amex, Visa Debit, and Mastercard Debit  
cards did not work at the automated kiosk in Schiphol last summer. I  
was able to use the attended desk with a US credit card. I was also  
able to use a US credit card at the Amsterdam local transit sales  
counter/


 I was also able to withdraw Euros using my ATM (US debit) cards at  
every location I tried.


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Re: Ok .. I want my IETF app for my iPad ..

2010-04-04 Thread Bill Strahm

Tim Bray wrote:

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Mark Nottingham  wrote:
  

Step-by-step instructions (with illustrations) for Americans to use their 
credit cards overseas.



Anyhow, it has to be an iPad app, rather than iPhone/iPod-touch,
because the smaller devices can't display 80-char-66-line ASCII
properly.  -T

  
Just thinking what would happen if someone were to propose a Windows 7 
app for the IETF.  Maybe Wordpad to write those pesky ASCII I-Ds, maybe 
a meeting planner, scheduler and calendar, maybe a program to help 
organize and read all of those pesky e-mail lists.  I know someone has 
to have done something like that...


Oh wait - I'll leave you back to your regularly scheduled vendor 
specific lock-in now.


Bill (darn it - 3 days late - but I had to skip April Fools this year)
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Re: Ok .. I want my IETF app for my iPad ..

2010-04-04 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 4 Apr 2010, at 21:58, Tony Finch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
>>> Anyhow, it has to be an iPad app, rather than iPhone/iPod-touch,
>>> because the smaller devices can't display 80-char-66-line ASCII
>>> properly.  -T
>> 
>> You have not seen iSSH in action then.
> 
> Tim's complaint is that mobile Safari's rendering of text/plain is
> braindead.
> Compare http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5068
> with http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5068

Does that tool reflow the indented lines to paragraphs?  I am seeing each text 
section as what looks like one long pre element.

Cheers,
Sabahattin
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Re: Ok .. I want my IETF app for my iPad ..

2010-04-04 Thread Tony Finch
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010, Jorge Amodio wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> >
> > Anyhow, it has to be an iPad app, rather than iPhone/iPod-touch,
> > because the smaller devices can't display 80-char-66-line ASCII
> > properly.  -T
>
> You have not seen iSSH in action then.

Tim's complaint is that mobile Safari's rendering of text/plain is
braindead.
Compare http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5068
with http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5068

Tony.
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Re: Ok .. I want my IETF app for my iPad ..

2010-04-04 Thread Jorge Amodio
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Mark Nottingham  wrote:
>> Step-by-step instructions (with illustrations) for Americans to use their 
>> credit cards overseas.
>
> Anyhow, it has to be an iPad app, rather than iPhone/iPod-touch,
> because the smaller devices can't display 80-char-66-line ASCII
> properly.  -T

You have not seen iSSH in action then. You can perfectly see an
80-char line, more than that damn app also has an X-server and you can
use VNC. Amazing !!!

Cheers
Jorge

>
>>
>>
>> On 04/04/2010, at 1:11 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> And what, pray tell, does an IETF app actually do?
>>>
>>> Generate random travel topics that we can argue about?
>>>
>>> Display RFCs?
>>>
>>> Doesn't this new toy of yours already have a browser?
>>>
>>> You want emacs on it?
>>>
>>> xml2rfc for the iPad?
>>>
>>> A list of local restaurants in Minneapolis?
>>>
>>> What do you want?
>>>
>>> Ole
>>>
>>>
>>> Ole J. Jacobsen
>>> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
>>> Cisco Systems
>>> Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
>>> E-mail: o...@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
>>>
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Re: Ok .. I want my IETF app for my iPad ..

2010-04-04 Thread Julian Reschke

On 04.04.2010 21:48, Tim Bray wrote:

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Mark Nottingham  wrote:

Step-by-step instructions (with illustrations) for Americans to use their 
credit cards overseas.


Anyhow, it has to be an iPad app, rather than iPhone/iPod-touch,
because the smaller devices can't display 80-char-66-line ASCII
properly.  -T


Oh, there's the killer application.

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Re: Ok .. I want my IETF app for my iPad ..

2010-04-04 Thread Tim Bray
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Mark Nottingham  wrote:
> Step-by-step instructions (with illustrations) for Americans to use their 
> credit cards overseas.

Anyhow, it has to be an iPad app, rather than iPhone/iPod-touch,
because the smaller devices can't display 80-char-66-line ASCII
properly.  -T

>
>
> On 04/04/2010, at 1:11 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>
>>
>> And what, pray tell, does an IETF app actually do?
>>
>> Generate random travel topics that we can argue about?
>>
>> Display RFCs?
>>
>> Doesn't this new toy of yours already have a browser?
>>
>> You want emacs on it?
>>
>> xml2rfc for the iPad?
>>
>> A list of local restaurants in Minneapolis?
>>
>> What do you want?
>>
>> Ole
>>
>>
>> Ole J. Jacobsen
>> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
>> Cisco Systems
>> Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
>> E-mail: o...@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
>>
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Re: Ok .. I want my IETF app for my iPad ..

2010-04-04 Thread Mark Nottingham
Step-by-step instructions (with illustrations) for Americans to use their 
credit cards overseas.


On 04/04/2010, at 1:11 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

> 
> And what, pray tell, does an IETF app actually do?
> 
> Generate random travel topics that we can argue about?
> 
> Display RFCs?
> 
> Doesn't this new toy of yours already have a browser?
> 
> You want emacs on it?
> 
> xml2rfc for the iPad?
> 
> A list of local restaurants in Minneapolis?
> 
> What do you want?
> 
> Ole
> 
> 
> Ole J. Jacobsen
> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
> Cisco Systems
> Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
> E-mail: o...@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
> 
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