Re: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my!
I believe that we are looking at a wireless solution here, and the justification for building alternate dimension networks could be difficult to justify unless we have an overcrowding problem on earth. That in turn would open up all sorts of other possibilities. You can see the advertisements now : "Moving into a different reality, don't end up in the Dungeon Dimensions, Talk to John Doe, you friendly neighbourhood inter-dimentional Realtor" However the Network Engineers that implemented it, would make a killing, They would be on the clock in several dimensions simultaneously, especially if you think that you can have different dimensions occupying the same physical space. this scenario presents interesting opportunities : 1. you could carry out a full days work by doing 1 hour in each of 8 realities, OR really bust the budget and 2. by working 8 hours in 8 different realities simultaneously, therefore achieving 64 hours work in one work day (8 hours) (1/3 of the time it takes for an orbital rotation of earth, assuming 24 hours is the time it takes,( I believe the completely accurate time is 23h 56m to one rotation)) and lets be honest here, how many Engineers do you know that work 8 hour days ? 3. based on the standard working model, in the course of one "normal" working day (8 hours), you could do your standard 40 hour week plus 24 hours overtime and take the rest of the week off to go hiking in the mountains. The added double whammy is that in the state of California, anything over 40 hours is time and a half, so the bank balance looks healthy too. The only possible problem is whether you can be considered to be in California and simultaneously in 7 other dimensions and still charge time and a half. The lawyers and politicians are going to have fun making a law for this work ethic. ah... Mr. President, welcome to quantum physics 101 ;- Jim *** My opinions are my own and do not represent the technical direction of 3Com or any of it's subsidiaries *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/08/2000 05:58:52 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my! On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:52:25 PDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: why not consider all the dimentions, ever heard of polyfractal space ? Fabricating the router connections would be interesting WHat sort of crimping tool would it take to make a 2.75D connector stay on the cable? ;) att1.unk
Re: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my!
Such a product is available already, check out : www.maxgate.net/product_3200.htm I believe the device does use NAT ( :- ) but there are other devices in the family, that do IPSEC. I am still waiting for mine to be delivered, sorry if I am a little wooly about it, I haven't had chance to play with it yet, but it looks promising. At the moment the cost is about $300 USD, but as Andre points out the price will drop eventually. Also I had believed that IPv6 had enough addresses for every person on planet Earth and then some. But here is an intresting question, Would the address be assigned to a person or a property, on the basis that if the person moved would the address go with them or stay with the house ? What happened if the house was destroyed or the person died, would the address be returned to the registry, from where it was issued, to be re-allocated to a new property or person ? Will we eventually get to the point where we are all as unique as our IPv6 addresses, and new born children are assigned an address automatically, when they are born ? Maybe george orwell and aldous huxley got it right ;- Jim ** This is my personal opinion only and does not represent the technical direction of 3Com or any subsidury. ** Andre-John Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 15:41:52 Sent by: Andre-John Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Rakers, Jason" jrakers @ALLEGHENYENERGY.COM cc: "'Dennis Glatting'" dennis.glatting @SOFTWARE-MUNITIONS.COM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com) Subject: Re: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my! "Rakers, Jason" wrote: When household appliances begin becoming IP addressable, I think we will see a move towards assigning an Internet IP address per household (much like today's street address). The household will perform NAT for all devices within (one street address can house many people, not just one). The factor in all this is cheap firewalls/routers. With these coming down in price they will be installed standard when asking for a cable internet connection, or such. Also these boxes, probably being the size of a phoneset would probably also include a DHCP server for addressing the various devices in the home, much like what is done for Sun's SunRay line of devices. If this does happen I just hope that they offer the option for expert users to configure the devices themselves. The price factor that will make these an option is arounf USD 100. Andre
Re: Heard at the IETF
I believe the correct name is Eire... ;- Jim "Matt Crawford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 16:21:31 Sent by: "Matt Crawford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Baker fred @cisco.com cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com) Subject: Re: Heard at the IETF Also heard at the IETF: In the plenary session the chair denied the existence of Ireland.
RE: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my!
why not consider all the dimentions, ever heard of polyfractal space ? (sorry couldn't resist it ;- ) Jim "Evstiounin, Mikhail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 19:33:50 Sent by: "Evstiounin, Mikhail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Dawson, Peter D" Dawson.Peter @EMERYWORLD.COM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com) Subject: RE: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my! Well, there are 8 computers in my house, and I don't count future IP enabled appliances. At my work place (building take probably about 0.7 hectares or less and this only one site) more than 700 computers:-). In any case, my point is that we should consider 3rd dimension also:-) -Original Message- From: Dawson, Peter D [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my! v6 address space works out to about 1500 address per sq mtr of the earth's surface... NOW..how many house fit on 1 sqm ? --Original Message- -From: Parkinson, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:23 AM -To: 'Rakers, Jason'; 'Dennis Glatting'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Subject: RE: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my! - - -Err I think that would take some thinking about ? How many -houses are there -in the world! - --Original Message- -From: Rakers, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 2:41 PM -To: 'Dennis Glatting'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Subject: RE: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my! - - -When household appliances begin becoming IP addressable, I -think we will see -a move towards assigning an Internet IP address per household -(much like -today's street address). The household will perform NAT for -all devices -within (one street address can house many people, not just one). - -
Re: Email Privacy eating software
I have had a similar experience to the one reported in the article, and was meet with a similar dejected mood when they fired up my laptop to find not the usual, nice, graphical widows desktop but Linux, The officer in question picked up a phone and said to his colleague, It doesn't look like windows I think it is something else. When I said it was UNIX, he visibly paled in front of me, and waved me through. So it would appear that if you are a terrorist, bomb maker, subversive or have a hard disk full of pornography and plan to travel to London for the IETF meeting or anything else for that matter, I would recommend trading in your Laptop's running windows for an Apple or in my case a laptop running Linux, which cannot be scanned. It is sometimes kind of silly, but I am also English (working in the US) and frankly, I have to admit that in the grand scheme of things I do sleep slightly better at night knowing that these people (H.M. Customs Excise and even U.S. Customs) are there plugging away for us, I am sure that the way they look at it ,they also do not want to be doing it, but every so often they must catch a bad person. (notice, I did not say guilty ;-) that they can charge with something really heinous. And let us not forget that these people are enforcing the law that the politicians make. What we need IMHO is more understanding by the legislators, without this we are doomed to have our time wasted by ineffectual laws that serve no real purpose other than to waste people's time and slow them down instead of protecting the public interest. The future may hold that if you are running the non-de facto O/S like MacOS or Linux then you are technically guilty of encrypting data, because the guy that wants to search your hard disk is only trained on the commands and how to navigate the windows file system and no other. Maybe the NSA will classify Linux and other non windows operating systems as munitions of war ;- (which would be interesting seeing as I recall they (NSA) also run Linux, something about better security) Jim ** Legal Disclaimer The opinions expressed within this mail are specifically my own and in no way refer to or relate to any ongoing business and/or the technical direction of 3Com Corporation, or any subsidiary companies or business units within 3Com Corporation and its subsidiaries. ** "Steven M. Bellovin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/18/2000 11:45:14 AM Sent by: "Steven M. Bellovin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Holdrege [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Jon Crowcroft [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com) Subject: Re: Email Privacy eating software In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matt Holdrege wr ites: At 11:50 AM 7/18/00 +0100, Jon Crowcroft wrote: next summer's IETF meeting is tentatively scheduled for London, England http://www.ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt if you turn up at customs with a laptop, you may be asked to show any and all files on it to the nice chaps there. if someone has sent you crypted email (say using your public key) you may be obliged to connect the lapto pto the public net and access your other key to decrypt the mail for the nice chaps in customs to priove that it is not to do with pornography or terrorism - whereeve yo uare from, you will have no recourse to say "no" or "this is commercial in confidence" or "my company will fire me if i let this go to anyone or send it over the net to decrypt at my home site etc etc" As one who travels to London quite often and has red hair and is of Irish descent, this sounds a bit overmuch to me. I've never had anything other than a kind welcome by British customs officials. There are loads of crazy laws in the U.S. and other countries. We citizens are grateful that the enforcement branch of the government chooses to ignore them unless provoked. I'm not sure what "sounds a bit overmuch" to you. Have a look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid%5F15/150465.stm --Steve Bellovin
Re: Defining Internet (or internet)
I always thought that Internet with capital "I" meant the Internet between countries, whilst the internet with a lower case "i" is referred to by the press as an intranet within a corporate structure. Both run IP but within different environments. Just my 2 cents. Jim ** Legal Disclaimer The opinions expressed within this mail are specifically my own and in no way refer to or relate to any ongoing business and/or the technical direction of 3Com Corporation, or any subsidiary companies or business units within 3Com Corporation and its subsidiaries. ** Joe Touch [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/07/2000 10:04:04 AM Sent by: Joe Touch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TSIGARIDAS PANAGIOTIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Eric Brunner [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com) Subject: Re: Defining "Internet" (or "internet") TSIGARIDAS PANAGIOTIS wrote: I found this definition in the INTEROP Book of Carl Malamud. The Internet (note the uppercase "I') is a network infrastructure that supports reasearch, engineering, education, and commercial services. The word internet (with a lowercase "i") refers to any interconnected set of substrates (provided, of course, they are running the internetwork protocol IP) internet is just a truncation of internetwork, but it has come to mean 'runs IP' (and a few others, e.g., ICMP). Internet = usually defined as a transitive closure, as in 'speaks IP and is connected to another site already on the Internet' where the base-case is usually defined as the NSF-funded backbone pre-1988 There are certainly internets that support the services above, but are not connected to the "Cap-I Internet". Joe
Re: WAP - What A Problem...
-- Forwarded by Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com on 06/30/2000 11:24 AM --- sent by: Jim Stephenson-Dunn - Network Engineer, GIS LAN/WAN To: Alan Simpkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WAP - What A Problem... (Document link: Database 'Jim Stephenson-Dunn', View '($Sent)') Valdis and Alan, you have a very valid point, infrastructure is not only expensive but very time consuming. The engineering component (configuration) is a relatively quick process by comparison. A country cannot just throw in a national communications infrastructure overnight. Having said that though, if people don't know how to use the telephone, they are unlikely to embrace the Internet. IMHO as the world slowly goes IP, this is perhaps an attempt by the Telco,s who see shrinking margins to try and bolster use of their products. I am having conversations with about 9 people around the world who are building a pure IP infrastructure (point to point fiber) who are going nowhere near the Telco's. Whilst it may appeal to the boys and their toys complex who may feel that having a WAP enabled handset empowers them and/or makes the neighbours jealous WAP that brings the Internet to a cellular device is of limited use because of the power and memory constraints of those devices. Why look at information on a WAP enabled phone with it's small screen, when it is easier to pull out my laptop, fire it up and see all of the information in one place at one time, with lots of memory and processing power at my command. Whilst I realise that Voice protocols have their place, it is IMHO only a matter of time, before this family of protocols gets to old and unworkable in the new world order of IP, that we will have little choice but to take it into the backyard with a shotgun. Jim ** Legal Disclaimer The opinions expressed within this mail are specifically my own and in no way refer to or relate to any ongoing business and/or the technical direction of 3Com Corporation, or any subsidiary companies or business units within 3Com Corporation and its subsidiaries. ** Alan Simpkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/30/2000 08:22:38 AM Sent by: Alan Simpkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com) Subject: Re: WAP - What A Problem... Valdis, I agree with you a hundred percent. The most expensive part of infrastructure is pulling the cables/fiber necessary to build the infrastrucuture. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:41:37 +0200, Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If they are that lacking in mere wires, they probably aren't in a position to profit from access to the Internet in the first place. That is, if they lack telephones (and that's all they need for broadband, or at least it's the better part of the battle), why would they be surfing the Web? First things first. The fact that they lack wires doesn't mean they lack telephones. Remember that wires are expensive to pull, especially for those 3 houses out on the far side of the mountain down the dirt road. Countries without landlines are not going to be a part of the global economy unless they upgrade in a major way very soon. You got this wrong. Countries without *connectivity* will be screwed. There's no *obvious* requirement that there be a landline involved. Having said that, I'm *not* a WAP proponent. ;) -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
