Re: imode far superior to wap
James Seng wrote: Not sure if it is relevant but i-mode is working on an end-to-end IP system now which will be deploy sometime next year. Really? I am in Tokyo and follow wireless developments, especially i-mode, quite closely, and I've never heard of such a plan. Can you elaborate? Thanks, r e n -- ascii: r e n f i e l d octal: \162 \145 \156 \146 \151 \145 \154 \144 hex: \x72 \x65 \x6e \x66 \x69 \x65 \x6c \x64 morgan stanley dean witter japan e-business technologies | engineering and strategy S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: WAP - What A Problem...
"Taylor, Johnny" wrote: In addition to this point I would like to also state WAP is the front runner in regards to linking wireless apps to the Global Internet and her sub-nets. I'd have to disagree there. The 8 million non-WAP users in Japan are unarguably enjoying the most prolific, robust, and deep wireless Internet available today. Regards, r e n -- ascii: r e n f i e l d octal: \162 \145 \156 \146 \151 \145 \154 \144 hex: \x72 \x65 \x6e \x66 \x69 \x65 \x6c \x64 ** note new work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: WAP - What A Problem...
Graham Klyne wrote: At 07:12 PM 6/30/00 +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Why use SMS instead of just voice? Has anyone considered the ergonomics of WAP? Even if it works perfectly, how many people are willing to work on a screen smaller than a credit card? Well, 10 million Japanese, and growing by 20,000 every DAY. How many people are capable of touch-typing on a keyboard with only ten soft keys that must be pressed in various arcane combinations for almost ever letter? It just doesn't make intuitive sense. In Japan email and SMS traffic is outstripping voice calls. The number of SMS and/or emails (in Japan the difference between email and SMS is prtty much transparent) is growing more rapidly than cell phone penetration and voice calls. In fact, chat rooms, realtime chat, and message boards are also very popular now, too. Regards, r e n
Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??
I don't think WAP Mobile Internet any more than TCP/IP is Internet. The Mobile Internet is data/communication devices you carry around with you. Here in Japan we have 8 million non-WAP mobile internet users, plus another 2 million WAP users, and the numbers are exploding. But, and I know this may be the wrong mailing list for this comment, the point is a non-technical one. Users don't care if it's WAP/WML, or cHTML or MML or text SMS, on a cdmaONE network, PDC-P, or what. Technically, I think many agree that WAP and its various technical standards are ill-conceived and poorly executed, but that doesn't mean the potential of the Mobile Internet isn't there. I personally think if WAP migrated to xHTML and operators looked at the successes here in Japan, than the next generation of WAP phones (or whatever you call them) really can and will be Mobile Internet. Regards, r e n Lars-Erik Jonsson wrote: Hi Folks!! I would like to hear your opinions about how WAP people often say that WAP is "mobile Internet". In my opinion, WAP is NOT mobile Internet at all. The Internet is built on the e2e principle and based on the Internet Protocols, which WAP is not. I can not tell people that they should not use WAP (even if I have my opinions about WAP). If they believe in WAP that is their problem, but when they try to use the words WAP and Internet in the same sentence I think it is time to clarify a few things. I accept that WAP is there, but be honest about what it is. Cheers! /Lars-Erik (expressing my PERSONAL opinions) -- ascii: r e n f i e l d octal: \162 \145 \156 \146 \151 \145 \154 \144 hex: \x72 \x65 \x6e \x66 \x69 \x65 \x6c \x64 morgan stanley dean witter japan e-business technologies | engineering and strategy S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: WAP - What A Problem...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:12:26 +0200, Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anyway, I have a really good instinct for picking technology winners, and thus far I put WAP in the same category as MiniDiscs, bubble memory, color fax machines, and quadraphonic sound. I think the growth area is in: The MiniDisc died. MP3 is a big business. People wanted the functionality. The MD is in no way dead. There are MILLIONS of them in Japan and across Asia. MDs never took off in the US/Europe, but that doesn't relegate it to the betmax graveyard. When 1 billion Chinese are recording their MP3s onto MDs and memory sticks, would you call that a dead technology? WAP may die like the other stuff mentioned above. However, people DO want the functionality - or something like it. Absolutely. Whatever the technical standard, mobile computing is not going away. Regards, r e n -- ascii: r e n f i e l d octal: \162 \145 \156 \146 \151 \145 \154 \144 hex: \x72 \x65 \x6e \x66 \x69 \x65 \x6c \x64 ** note new work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
re:wap is a trap - reject wap
I find it fascinating that nobody's mentioned cHTML as a viable alternative to WML. Here in Japan, inarguably on the forefront of wireless internet, NTT DoCoMo's I-Mode service enjoys almost 8 million regular users of cHTML over PDC packet-switched network. cHTML is simple, easy to migrate to xHTML (or whatever future standard there will be), and totally compatible with existing internet technologies and standards. r e n -- ascii: r e n f i e l d octal: \162 \145 \156 \146 \151 \145 \154 \144 hex: \x72 \x65 \x6e \x66 \x69 \x65 \x6c \x64 ** note new work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
