RE: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt
I thought the real purpose of life was too make money!! Joking aside, I agree with Keith Moore, some things are totally unacceptable and this falls into that category. Data integrity should be of the utmost importance in any network. The InterNet is no exception. Regards Mark Paton CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng Mercury Network Systems Limited +44 585 649051 +44 1256 761925 http://www.mnsl.org "Mercury Network Systems - The Unstoppable Force" This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please telephone us immediately. Please note that we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect those of the Company. -Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 July 2000 03:26 To: Keith Moore Cc: Masataka Ohta; Jon Crowcroft; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt of course you will exuse the providers if we continue to be perverse and find new business models. not bloody likely. some things are inexcusable. munging data in transit is one of them. the fact that you may have a business model that says you can make money doing something that is inexcusable is not a justification for doing that thing. I'm sick and tired of folks justifing all manner of brain damage merely because they think they can make money at it. you'd think that they believe that the only purpose in life is to make money. Keith p.s. sorry to single you out, there are far worse culprits. have you tried valerian root tea? BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Paton;Mark.;J.S;; FN:Mark. J.S Paton ORG:Mnsl;Consultancy TITLE:Network Design / Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:+44 0585 649051 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+44 (0585) 649051 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;Basingstoke;Willow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road;Mattingley;Hampshire;RG27 8JU;= United Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Basingstoke=0D=0AWillow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road=0D=0AMattingley, Hampshire= RG27 8JU=0D=0AUnited Kingdom URL: URL:http://www.mnsl.org EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19990422T133901Z END:VCARD
CCIE
Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. Anyone interested please email me back and I will forward your details to HR. Many thanks Regards Mark Paton CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng Mercury Network Systems Limited +44 585 649051 +44 1256 761925 http://www.mnsl.org "Mercury Network Systems - The Unstoppable Force" This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please telephone us immediately. Please note that we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect those of the Company. BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Paton;Mark.;J.S;; FN:Mark. J.S Paton ORG:Mnsl;Consultancy TITLE:Network Design / Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:+44 0585 649051 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+44 (0585) 649051 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;Basingstoke;Willow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road;Mattingley;Hampshire;RG27 8JU;= United Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Basingstoke=0D=0AWillow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road=0D=0AMattingley, Hampshire= RG27 8JU=0D=0AUnited Kingdom URL: URL:http://www.mnsl.org EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19990422T133901Z END:VCARD
RE: Proposal: reclassify RFC2549, 1149 as historical
I would tend to agree with Lloyd Regards Mark Paton CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng Mercury Network Systems Limited +44 585 649051 http://www.mnsl.org "Mercury Network Systems - The Unstoppable Force" This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please telephone us immediately. Please note that we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect those of the Company. -Original Message- From: Lloyd Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 February 2000 21:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Proposal: reclassify RFC2549, 1149 as historical I move we reclassify RFC2549 and RFC1149 as historical. Evidence to support this: 'end of an era' according to http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000111464 113065pg=/et/00/2/14/wpig14.html below. In particular, I don't think the QoS additions have ever been fully field tested; the WFQ proposal leads to observable instances of dropped tails during measurement. L. don't you just hate thinking about sending yourself valentines? [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGPhttp://www.ee.sur rey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/ ELECTRONIC TELEGRAPH, ISSUE 1725 Monday 14 February 2000 Spread of radio switches off political pigeon post By Jon Stock in New Delhi MORE than 600 Indian police carrier pigeons face early retirement after officials decided to replace them with radios. The decision to ground the birds before Wednesday's state assembly elections in Orissa, eastern India, marks the end of an era. They previously played a unique role in India's electoral process. They last saw active duty during last year's general election, when they carried messages to and from far-flung polling booths in the remote Orissa districts of Koraput and Dhenkanal. The messages detailed the law and order situation during polling. The pigeons are kept in 28 lofts throughout the state and will now become showpieces used solely for ceremonial purposes, according to Baikunthanath Das, Superintendent of Police (Signals), who looks after them. Their demise has been caused by what he called the advent of new technology. He said: "Even the most remote interior areas now have VHF radios." The service was the only one of its kind in India. It was started in 1946 during British rule by the state police's Signal Establishment, which bought more than 1,000 pigeons from the Indian Army after the Second World War. BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Paton;Mark.;J.S;; FN:Mark. J.S Paton ORG:Mnsl;Consultancy TITLE:Network Design / Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:+44 0585 649051 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+44 (0585) 649051 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;Basingstoke;Willow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road;Mattingley;Hampshire;RG27 8JU;= United Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Basingstoke=0D=0AWillow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road=0D=0AMattingley, Hampshire= RG27 8JU=0D=0AUnited Kingdom URL: URL:http://www.mnsl.org EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19990422T133901Z END:VCARD
RE: IP network address assignments/allocations information?
Daniel, Surely you cannot conceive a time when the IP address' are the domain of everyone. The growth of the Internet / Networking within the last 5 years shows you that our current addressing schema is inadequate for the future demand, if you extrapolate the current growth in line the growth in births and longevity of folks then this says in itself that we can expect an addressing schema aimed at the "man on the street" and another one for business and a third for the backbone and a fourth for the hell of it. A single IP address' combined with the mobility factor will make it a very attractive future, why not get involved and start the WG for it now. The future is not that far away. Regards Mark Paton CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng Mercury Network Systems Limited +44 585 649051 http://www.mnsl.org "Mercury Network Systems - The Unstoppable Force" This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please telephone us immediately. Please note that we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect those of the Company. -Original Message- From: Daniel Senie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 December 1999 21:10 To: Perry E. Metzger Cc: J. Noel Chiappa; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information? "Perry E. Metzger" wrote: If you mean RSIP, RSIP is even further from deployment than v6. Indeed, I'd say that RSIP is a clever but utterly dead end idea. I too would rather see effort put into IPv6... if it's going to happen, let's get going, though... it's been in the oven too long. There's one scenario about IPv6 which worries me, and which may well make RSIP and NAT in a pure IPv6 world a reality. Today we have LOTS of folks using NAT(NAPT really) for connecting to cable modems and DSL lines. Some folks are doing this for dialups too. It's the model for "home networking" today. Will ISPs be willing to assign a block of addresses in the future to home networks? What does that mean when the access is a dialup? Sooner or later, we'll have providers handing out a single IPv6 address to any home user customer, just as is done today with IPv4 addresses. It is for this user population that RSIP will likely be a real issue. One of the things to think about is that while there is use of various NAT flavors in corporate environments, it is or will be nearly ubiquitous in the home market. Linux and Windows both include credible, functional NAPT solutions today. Is it ugly? Sure. Is there any chance it'll stop being attractive to the home user? Unlikely. -- -- --- Daniel Senie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amaranth Networks Inc. http://www.amaranthnetworks.com BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Paton;Mark.;J.S;; FN:Mark. J.S Paton ORG:Mnsl;Consultancy TITLE:Network Design / Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:+44 0585 649051 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+44 (0585) 649051 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;Basingstoke;Willow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road;Mattingley;Hampshire;RG27 8JU;= United Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Basingstoke=0D=0AWillow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road=0D=0AMattingley, Hampshire= RG27 8JU=0D=0AUnited Kingdom URL: URL:http://www.mnsl.org EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19990422T133901Z END:VCARD
