Re: [IETF] back by popular demand - a DNS calculator

2013-03-20 Thread Ray Bellis

On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:46, Carlos M. martinez 
carlosm3...@gmail.commailto:carlosm3...@gmail.com wrote:

Wasn't the 'evil bit' able to hold the value 2 ?

Use all evil bits for IP addresses and we'll soon have no need for IPv6.

Geoff Huston and I wrote a draft to use the evil bit to indicate the presence 
of IPv4 NATs.  It could be used as a tie-breaker for Happy Eyeballs.  It's 
expired, though.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bellis-behave-natpresent-00

Ray



Re: [IETF] back by popular demand - a DNS calculator

2013-02-20 Thread Steven Bellovin

On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Carlos M. martinez carlosm3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wasn't the 'evil bit' able to hold the value 2 ?
 
Yes, but we need an RFC for that.  From RFC 3514:

6. IANA Considerations

   This document defines the behavior of security elements for the 0x0
   and 0x1 values of this bit.  Behavior for other values of the bit may
   be defined only by IETF consensus [RFC2434].


--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb







Re: [IETF] back by popular demand - a DNS calculator

2013-02-16 Thread Warren Kumari


Sent from my iPad

On Feb 16, 2013, at 2:02 AM, Patrik Fältström p...@frobbit.se wrote:

 
 On 15 feb 2013, at 23:45, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote:
 
 Sure -- the DNS protocol *cannot* handle any value in the octets -- in 
 fact, there are an *infinite* number of values it cannot handle *in the 
 octets*. For example, it cannot handle 257. It also cannot handle 321, nor 
 19.3...
 
 Ok, it is obvious Friday...somewhere...
 
 Once when being on IESG way back when I was tasked to write the response to 
 the letter we got with a suggestion on an alternative solution for the 
 running out of IPv4 addresses problem.
 
 The proposal was to not stop counting at 255 in each of the four numbers 
 separated by periods, but continue to (at least) 999.
 

That's also a solved problem -- there is even a draft about it : 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-terrell-math-quant-ternary-logic-of-binary-sys-01

You just use ternary logic instead of binary and all your problems are 
solved... or something...I get a little lost during the proof of Fermat's...

W


   Patrik
 


Re: [IETF] back by popular demand - a DNS calculator

2013-02-15 Thread Patrik Fältström

On 15 feb 2013, at 23:45, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote:

 Sure -- the DNS protocol *cannot* handle any value in the octets -- in 
 fact, there are an *infinite* number of values it cannot handle *in the 
 octets*. For example, it cannot handle 257. It also cannot handle 321, nor 
 19.3...

Ok, it is obvious Friday...somewhere...

Once when being on IESG way back when I was tasked to write the response to the 
letter we got with a suggestion on an alternative solution for the running out 
of IPv4 addresses problem.

The proposal was to not stop counting at 255 in each of the four numbers 
separated by periods, but continue to (at least) 999.

   Patrik



Re: [IETF] back by popular demand - a DNS calculator

2013-02-15 Thread Dave Cridland
On 16 Feb 2013 07:03, Patrik Fältström p...@frobbit.se wrote:


 On 15 feb 2013, at 23:45, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote:

  Sure -- the DNS protocol *cannot* handle any value in the octets --
in fact, there are an *infinite* number of values it cannot handle *in the
octets*. For example, it cannot handle 257. It also cannot handle 321, nor
19.3...

 Ok, it is obvious Friday...somewhere...

 Once when being on IESG way back when I was tasked to write the response
to the letter we got with a suggestion on an alternative solution for the
running out of IPv4 addresses problem.

 The proposal was to not stop counting at 255 in each of the four numbers
separated by periods, but continue to (at least) 999.


Seems quite sensible to me. After all, we do this in TELNET option
negotiation.