Re: [Tools-discuss] meta-issues on charter discussions

2009-08-24 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
Hi Tony, Pasi,

On 2009-08-24 09:55 pasi.ero...@nokia.com said the following:
 The tools WG pages used to have diffs between charter versions
 (see e.g. http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tls/charters/ -- the delta
 symbol leads to side-by-side diff between the versions), but 
 it looks like this broke when new www.ietf.org was deployed
 in July 

Ouch.  Mmm.  I'll see if I can fix this.


Henrik


 Best regards,
 Pasi
 
 -Original Message-
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 ext Tony Hansen
 Sent: 21 August, 2009 17:57
 To: tools-disc...@ietf.org
 Cc: ietf@ietf.org
 Subject: Re: meta-issues on charter discussions

 This was posted to the ietf list.

 While the charter history pages are nice, they can be made better using
 a format similar to how tools.ietf.org presents RFCs and I-Ds: a
 non-printing list of versions at the top with ways to show differences
 between versions.

 Sounds like a job for the tools team. :-)

  Tony Hansen
  t...@att.com

 Thomas Narten wrote:
 Re: old charters and such.

 While poking around earlier this week, I found:

   http://www.ietf.org/dyn/wg/charter/history/

 (it is hanging of the WG pages, so not that hard to find.)

 It appears to be a snapshot of charters whenever they change. But,
 they change often due to events that are probably not the kind of
 changes we are thinking about, and there is no indication about what
 has changed, so there are a lot of copies and wading through them to
 find stuff appears pretty daunting. And the history only goes back 3
 years or so...

 But they might be a basis for some tools to extract stuff. But, if
 tools are going to do this, it seems like an archival format other
 than HTML would be desirable.
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Re: [Tools-discuss] meta-issues on charter discussions

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Barnes
As a side issue, it appears that Ekr is chairing TLS twice, at least
according to the linked TLS tools page.
--Richard

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:55 AM, pasi.ero...@nokia.com wrote:
 The tools WG pages used to have diffs between charter versions
 (see e.g. http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tls/charters/ -- the delta
 symbol leads to side-by-side diff between the versions), but
 it looks like this broke when new www.ietf.org was deployed
 in July

 Best regards,
 Pasi

 -Original Message-
 From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
 ext Tony Hansen
 Sent: 21 August, 2009 17:57
 To: tools-disc...@ietf.org
 Cc: ietf@ietf.org
 Subject: Re: meta-issues on charter discussions

 This was posted to the ietf list.

 While the charter history pages are nice, they can be made better using
 a format similar to how tools.ietf.org presents RFCs and I-Ds: a
 non-printing list of versions at the top with ways to show differences
 between versions.

 Sounds like a job for the tools team. :-)

       Tony Hansen
       t...@att.com

 Thomas Narten wrote:
  Re: old charters and such.
 
  While poking around earlier this week, I found:
 
        http://www.ietf.org/dyn/wg/charter/history/
 
  (it is hanging of the WG pages, so not that hard to find.)
 
  It appears to be a snapshot of charters whenever they change. But,
  they change often due to events that are probably not the kind of
  changes we are thinking about, and there is no indication about what
  has changed, so there are a lot of copies and wading through them to
  find stuff appears pretty daunting. And the history only goes back 3
  years or so...
 
  But they might be a basis for some tools to extract stuff. But, if
  tools are going to do this, it seems like an archival format other
  than HTML would be desirable.

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Re: [Tools-discuss] meta-issues on charter discussions

2009-08-24 Thread Henrik Levkowetz


On 2009-08-24 18:15 Richard Barnes said the following:
 As a side issue, it appears that Ekr is chairing TLS twice, at least
 according to the linked TLS tools page.
 --Richard

Yah.  That's something the secretariat will have to fix in the metadata
for the WG; the tools page just uses the info which is in the database.


Best,

Henrik
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